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TeenCat 10-17-2014 11:41 AM
50 posts about i dont know what :)

Barry-xlovecam 10-17-2014 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 20257190)
I didn't say the customer wasn't getting billed, he is getting billed and getting access to your site without you knowing it. Processor bills member, new member gets access and you are left holding the bag. Member's newly created passcodes are linked to codes already in your ht access file. Simple skimming program.
We don't allow any processor to write to our servers or give customers passwords. So, I wouldn't know about that problem ...
Also, what you are talking about is a criminal activity; criminal fraud and possibly R.I.C.O. in the USA. Any processor that did that would end up an indicted idiot.

Markul 10-17-2014 12:21 PM
The real question is, how do you convert cams?

edgeprod 10-17-2014 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 20256666)
I could be wrong, but can you prove me 100% wrong? I don't think so.
Why would I have to? Can you 100% prove there aren't ass-raping unicorns? No, but who worries about it?

edgeprod 10-17-2014 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20257306)
The real question is, how do you convert cams?
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 10-17-2014 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20257306)
The real question is, how do you convert cams?
By selling dreams, desires and personalities. Maybe an oversimplification, but in essence we are in the people business we offer a fantasy or escape.

http://resources.acwm.biz/banners/xl...250_008_uk.gif

adultmobile 10-17-2014 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20257252)
50 posts about i dont know what :)
This thread reached the 2nd page? Oh my...

12clicks 10-17-2014 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 20257249)
Prove me wrong.

You can't because you have been conditioned to trust processors without blinking. The processing business is unregulated. You're going to tell me that if they had a way to take extra money without anybody knowing, they wouldn't?

You really think processors get by on the piddly little 14%, when they can be earning an extra $ 500,000 to $1,000,000 per month by just skimming a sale here, and a sale there without anybody knowing? I'm not saying they are stealing EVERY sale they can, that would kill the cow. But just one sale per day, maybe 2 from larger sites, a small simple little skim that results in millions extra revenue. The banks have no idea, nor the website owner. If it can be done, it's being done. The basic business model is based on "how much money can be extracted from the consumer without destroying the consumer."

Wake up.
well with all that scary knowledge, you'll do well in life.

Markul 10-17-2014 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20257341)
By selling dreams, desires and personalities. Maybe an oversimplification, but in essence we are in the people business we offer a fantasy or escape.

http://resources.acwm.biz/banners/xl...250_008_uk.gif
Yea... that one flew right over you dude :thumbsup

NewOldPlayer 10-17-2014 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20257323)
Why would I have to? Can you 100% prove there aren't ass-raping unicorns? No, but who worries about it?
Because ass-raping unicorns isn't basic human behavior. Stealing and finding creative ways to make a profit, is.

edgeprod 10-19-2014 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 20257487)
Because ass-raping unicorns isn't basic human behavior. Stealing and finding creative ways to make a profit, is.
Fair enough. :thumbsup

signupdamnit 10-19-2014 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20256205)
point 1 - No, You were lazy and that is why you couldn't cut it as an adult webmaster and had to move on. No shame in that, it's not for everyone and is hard work. Just because you couldn't hack it does not mean that everyone is in the same boat. Talk to some people who have always made sales instead, you will get a better read on what the market capabilities are.

point 2 - How would you have any idea about programs or shaving practices? You have repeated ad nauseum that you haven't tried selling adult paysites for years now. So if you never have how does this make you an authority on the subject? feel free to explain that one...
You may as well not even bother. While I no longer have you on ignore I basically just read a few words and stop reading when I see you are being your usual self. Life is too short for this idiocy. The only way you would possibly know anything about me is that I used to be a pimproll webmaster before I stopped putting up links circa-2008 when it was converting 1:6000 when everyone else was 1:1000. You've been acting like an ass to me ever since that day when I simply told the truth about how you converted for me. Beyond that I don't know you other than that you act like an ass online. I don't think you know me either...

signupdamnit 10-19-2014 02:16 PM
It's theoretically possible for a processor to steal from a pay site owner but there are almost always ways for the sponsor to see it if they are paying attention and keeping any amount of control. BV explained it pretty well.

Then again the same is true in regards to affiliates being shaved by sponsors in various ways and look how often it happens (inclusive of things like leaks and non credit for secondary billers).

They could in theory try only shaving the ones not paying attention but eventually you would think they would miscalculate and do this to the wrong owner and it would all get out there forever destroying their reputation.

It's probably the banks fucking us over with the scrubbing more so than most of us realize.

NatalieK 10-19-2014 05:24 PM
we had someone still as member from years back, I think probably a password site, but still converting, not even registered as a user on our login db with ccbill. We only just realised recently & have had ccbill remove the password manually. If this is skimming, it's a bad thing :(

fsugar 10-24-2014 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 20257249)
Prove me wrong.

You can't because you have been conditioned to trust processors without blinking. The processing business is unregulated. You're going to tell me that if they had a way to take extra money without anybody knowing, they wouldn't?

You really think processors get by on the piddly little 14%, when they can be earning an extra $ 500,000 to $1,000,000 per month by just skimming a sale here, and a sale there without anybody knowing? I'm not saying they are stealing EVERY sale they can, that would kill the cow. But just one sale per day, maybe 2 from larger sites, a small simple little skim that results in millions extra revenue. The banks have no idea, nor the website owner. If it can be done, it's being done. The basic business model is based on "how much money can be extracted from the consumer without destroying the consumer."

Wake up.
In this age of computers, even people who have done scams at banks with fractions of 1 percent eventually get caught. It is easy to prove wrong. Yes it is possible, but also it is impossible to get away with it forever.


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