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Thanks for sending me juicy's ad.

This is not injure acted against juicyads, but I think all of the traffic brokers are a bunch of nonsense. It's just one giant house of cards getting ready to fall down - there is a lot of nonhuman traffic, shady sellers, and blind crappy traffic that won't do anything except leave a hole in your credit card.

There is indeed a lot of those things which you mentioned,but it depend from broker to broker,some pay attention to who they get into system,some just dont give a shit and think only about getting commission.

Totally agree

yes, you cannot have nailed it on the head that one... still I don't know why someone with traffic they could convert for themselves would sell it... maybe I'm just old school

In this case oldschool is just a colourful way of saying: completely out of touch with current business practices.

This made me laugh and think of guys like Robbie. :1orglaugh :upsidedow

Well,as someone who selling traffic for seven years i can explain this -
first,as a traffic seller i cannot monetize my traffic well as hundreds of traffic buyers can do it.You cant be good at everything,you are either good with generating traffic or you are good with monetizing traffic.And also traffic buyers dont need to buy entire traffic available from single buyer,it can buy a piece of it which he think how it will convert.
Second,even if you would be good by sending traffic to right sponsors,in most cases selling to traffic brokers simply generate more money,unless you have micro niche site,then it is better to send to sponsors.
I got fooled by some sponsors how i will make more money by sending traffic to them,but it was total bullshit.Trafficbroker simply always generate more money(except in microniche case and some luck as well,some high pps sponsors could do the trick but it depend on consistency of sales).

Traffic brokers and Ad Networks are two different things. The reason to use a ad network is that we are able to break a part your traffic and sell it to hundreds of different advertisers who each have their own speciality at converting traffic.

As I'm sure your aware what sells well in the US, might not sell well in Germany, Asia, Russia or vice versa.. So using a ad network you maximize all your traffic not just a portion of it. :pimp

I dont see them ruining their reputation over 250, must be some misunderstanding. Get with jay

The current business? If you look at a lot of these different plug things that these traffic brokers are doing and especially the "CPV" (costs per view) model it's no different than blind circle jerk traffic was when key TGPS were really big. It is blind scammed traffic and has very little value.

As much as I would hate to say it, the better traffic brokers are the ones that broker for the big tube sites because at least you know that the publishers are some of the biggest sites on the Internet, but even those big traffic brokers with the biggest sites on the Internet... do you know what they are doing? They are buying the cheap traffic and mixing it in with their organic traffic, so they have a bigger inventory. I know this for a fact.

Once again, this does not pertain to juicyads, I've never done any business with them, but as someone who's been around this game, especially the traffic side... that's my take on it.

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Well,first brokers were indeed just selling skim/blind traffic,like chokertraffic,fpctraffic,trafficholder and trafficshop,but since then tons of new brokers appeared and almost all of them handle only clicked clean traffic,like banner or text link traffic.Think juicyads was one the first brokers doing banner ads only till they expanded to other types as well.

like I said, I've never worked with them so I can't comment on them specifically

Juicy ads is pretty solid company, and appears they working to fix it. Best of luck on your advertising!

Completely agree: I tell clients that come to be for traffic brokerage that it's a dangerous game and that if someone's selling traffic, they likely find it hard to monetize it.

Tried out some 'premium webcam' traffic a few months ago just to confirm my beliefs about brokers. Here are the stats - it's the PRPOPUNDER tracker.

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$2.50 from 6600 uniques. I had one person create an account. All my other popunder profiles with decent sites net at least ten times that figure. It's really silly I got 46 more free joins on my own site with less traffic.

Really confirmed my beliefs that SEO is the way to go. It has its limited usage to getting the ball rolling, but I doubt anyone here actually profits from buying brokered traffic.

Note: didn't use Juicy Ads, so not an attack on them.

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Popunders = waste of money. Unless you are too big to care and you just want to brand your website.

Only CPA (super annoying ones) fuckers and malware fuckers still use popunders.

Good luck everybody! :thumbsup