California bans plastic bags

[Rochard]

A new law in California bans "single use plastic bags" - the kinds handed out at stores.

I fail to understand this. These bags aren't single use at all. We take them home, toss them in a draw in our dryer and re-use them for everything. I use them for our kid's lunch, snacks on my bike rides, when I travel, cleaning up dog crap in the front yard, and even use them to line the smaller garbage cans in the house.

This sucks.

[xXXtesy10]

[BlackCrayon]

here they charged 5 cents each for them under the guise of encouraging people to bring their own bags but in the end, they just make money selling the bags as most people didn't change. those who always brought their bags, brought them. those who didn't before the charge now pay for them.

[L-Pink]

That's California.

And reusing non washed bags isn't very sterile.


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[Roald]

Originally Posted by Rochard

A new law in California bans "single use plastic bags" - the kinds handed out at stores.

I fail to understand this. These bags aren't single use at all. We take them home, toss them in a draw in our dryer and re-use them for everything. I use them for our kid's lunch, snacks on my bike rides, when I travel, cleaning up dog crap in the front yard, and even use them to line the smaller garbage cans in the house.

This sucks.

yes but 99% of the people isn't re-using them

They did the same here last year or so. Good move imo.

[Tom_PM]

Good for them. Less plastic in our ocean once they slide into it. hehe

Did you hear that? Ed Begley Jr. just had an all natural organic orgasm.

[robwod]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

here they charged 5 cents each for them under the guise of encouraging people to bring their own bags but in the end, they just make money selling the bags as most people didn't change. those who always brought their bags, brought them. those who didn't before the charge now pay for them.

Same as here. But they kind of reversed it.. I don't think they charge for plastic now. However, it made a lot of sense to us to just pay the $1/bag for the reusable bags and they have a lifetime guarantee (at our supermarket anyway). If they wear, get ripped, torn, etc.. the cashier just replaces it as she bags the food.

I'm at a point where I will literally turn around and drive home to get our "nice bags" if I forget them because, by comparison, the plastic bags are horrid in terms of strength and convenience.

Sobey's Bags for Life: http://www.sobeyssustainability.com/...-For-Life.aspx

[clickity click]

When I do a big shop I use those high quality woven ones. I have four of them which just manages to fit in all my groceries. If I forget the bags I can end up using over ten of the regular bags. Makes me laugh when the cashier asks if I want bags, I don't know what she expects me to do with the stuff.

I agree though that I use those bags for everything. If I didn't use shop bags I would just end up buying something similar which would end up going in the trash anyway.

[dyna mo]

I can't recall the last time I saw plastic bags at a cali grocery store, it's had to have been several months.

[baddog]

Fuck Moonbeam and all the pricks that voted for him and will vote for him in November. Seriously, fuck each and every one of you. Go back to where you came from please.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I can't recall the last time I saw plastic bags at a cali grocery store, it's had to have been several months.

Seriously? You must not go to many grocery stores.

[L-Pink]

Reusable grocery bags can be a breeding ground for dangerous food-borne bacteria and pose a serious risk to public health, according to a joint food-safety research report issued today by the University of Arizona and Loma Linda University in California.

The research study ? which randomly tested reusable grocery bags carried by shoppers in Tucson, Los Angeles and San Francisco ? also found consumers were almost completely unaware of the need to regularly wash their bags.

[Sly]

They are banned in Austin. I bought these: http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Fold-Bag-...e+bags+grocery

Not only do these work 10, 20 times better than those shitty plastic bags, but they are much more environment friendly and they hold sooooooo much more groceries.

If you give a shit about the environment, even just a little bit, stop using a piece of plastic shit out of laziness and get something that WORKS better.

[myjah]

Plastic bags are horrible for the environment. About 1% are recycled each year and recycling even those plastic bags is not a profitable business and makes no sense. Using them two or three times before they aren't usable anymore is not reason enough to defend keeping them in regular use.

[baddog]

And if we don't give a shit about the environment?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by baddog

And if we don't give a shit about the environment?

You can bitch on a message board.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

Seriously? You must not go to many grocery stores.

seriously? You must not go anywhere at all

The plastic bag ban took effect in the city of Los Angeles on Jan. 1, 2014.

http://www.dailynews.com/environment...-and-confusion

[Roald]

Originally Posted by baddog

And if we don't give a shit about the environment?

Who pissed in your cheerios this morning?

[dyna mo]

I should lay out and take a snap of all the fucking reusable grocery bags we've had to accumulate over the last several months from all the grocery stores we've hit this summer vacationing up and down the socal coast.

von's
walmart
trader joe's
smart and final
big lots
fresh plus.

lolz

[_Richard_]

woot good job..

is nestle still taking water from your reserves to sell as bottled water?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Rochard

A new law in California bans "single use plastic bags" - the kinds handed out at stores.

I fail to understand this. These bags aren't single use at all. We take them home, toss them in a draw in our dryer and re-use them for everything. I use them for our kid's lunch, snacks on my bike rides, when I travel, cleaning up dog crap in the front yard, and even use them to line the smaller garbage cans in the house.

This sucks.

All your plastic bags end up in Hawaii.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_P..._Garbage_Patch

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

here they charged 5 cents each for them under the guise of encouraging people to bring their own bags but in the end, they just make money selling the bags as most people didn't change. those who always brought their bags, brought them. those who didn't before the charge now pay for them.

We use the re usable bags for bin bags, it's easiest here in Spain with the bin system, walking our rubbish to the local community garbage bin. I do like re using the boxes when using lidl shops.

Rochard, for you, likewise, as we re use, this must be annoying

[Vendzilla]

Calabasas made them illegal years ago, so did other area's in the LA area. Then LA did away with all of them in January. Pain in the ass. They sell you thicker plastic bags for 10 cents each.
I have a couple folding plastic crates I use now, much easier.
http://www.amazon.com/Clever-Crates-...plastic+crates

[VikingMan]

even better is to drive around with cooler and I just bring that into the store put it in the shopping cart that way important things like beer don't get warm on the ride home

[Scott McD]

Think a 5p charge for those bags begins here in a few weeks. Don't think it will have much affect to be honest...

[MK Ultra]

I live in SLO county and the ban started here exactly two years ago, by law the stores can't just give you paper bags either, they have to charge you ten cents for each one to "teach people that single-use items are bad for the environment" according to one of the treehugger websites that I saw a couple of years ago when I looked into the subject.
Which was enough for me to say "fuck you I'll pay the ten cents then throw the paper bag in the trash"

I expect the paper bags to be banned in a few more years when they realize how many more trees this stupid idea is using up.

Originally Posted by baddog

Fuck Moonbeam and all the pricks that voted for him and will vote for him in November. Seriously, fuck each and every one of you. Go back to where you came from please.

I agree with you wholeheartedly

He is also pressing ahead with that 68 billion dollar crazy train boondoggle which we can't afford and will forever be a drain on the state's resources.
Plus they'll have to take even more of my mom's land to build the goddam thing lowering the value of what's left even more. (so I'm not exactly unbiased on that subject.)

But not to worry, he'll just raise taxes (again) to pay for it driving more and more money out of the state.
I'm looking at Nevada right now, no state income tax, no corp income tax.

[DWB]

This is happening around the world. In some places you even have to pay for bags now.

A good move.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

woot good job..

is nestle still taking water from your reserves to sell as bottled water?

yes, the brand is Arrowhead, they were established over 150 years ago and they pull all their water from Cal aquifers. It will be a very difficult time trying to ban a 150 year old business but my guess is it will happen when shit starts slapping us in the face that hey, we are truly really out of ground water.

arrowhead is the largest global supplier of bottled water, the 2nd is also a Cal based business that draws their water from aquifers here.

[L-Pink]

Keep in mind paper bags come from pulp farms, a renewable resource.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by robwod

Same as here. But they kind of reversed it.. I don't think they charge for plastic now. However, it made a lot of sense to us to just pay the $1/bag for the reusable bags and they have a lifetime guarantee (at our supermarket anyway). If they wear, get ripped, torn, etc.. the cashier just replaces it as she bags the food.

I'm at a point where I will literally turn around and drive home to get our "nice bags" if I forget them because, by comparison, the plastic bags are horrid in terms of strength and convenience.

Sobey's Bags for Life: http://www.sobeyssustainability.com/...-For-Life.aspx

i tried but constantly forgot and just got sick of it and gave up. and like L-Pink said, unless your reusable bags are washable, they're going to get might nasty especially when you buy meats and such. stick your head in and take a good whiff of your reusable bag next time you're out shopping, they don't smell good usually.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

seriously? You must not go anywhere at all

The plastic bag ban took effect in the city of Los Angeles on Jan. 1, 2014.

http://www.dailynews.com/environment...-and-confusion

I avoid Los Angeles as much as possible and I would NEVER shop there . . . . I forgot you lived there.

Originally Posted by Roald

Who pissed in your cheerios this morning?

For starters, Governor Moonbeam

[CaptainHowdy]

[Jman]

Originally Posted by baddog

And if we don't give a shit about the environment?

LMAO, you really made me chuckle there Killer

[GAMEFINEST]

Good move

[baddog]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Good point, you never see paper litter.

[rhon23]

we have had that law in West Hollywood for a few years now. Doesn't bother me I pay for paper when i am done I toss it in the recycle bin. i always forget the reusable ones.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

I avoid Los Angeles as much as possible and I would NEVER shop there . . . . I forgot you lived there.



For starters, Governor Moonbeam

Certainly you are not trying to claim Torrance is somehow better than LA when it comes to grocery stores.

all the grocery stores we've frequented in the beach cities we've spent time in over the last few months no longer offer them. HB, NB, Dana Point, Oceanside......

[robwod]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i tried but constantly forgot and just got sick of it and gave up. and like L-Pink said, unless your reusable bags are washable, they're going to get might nasty especially when you buy meats and such. stick your head in and take a good whiff of your reusable bag next time you're out shopping, they don't smell good usually.

Obviously we wash them. One would assume most people realize they need to wash fabric and reusable bags. Of course, I should know by now not to assume anything. But yes, we wash ours, inside and out. They're rigid enough to be "wiped" with cleaner wipes and yet, flexible enough to go through our washer.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by robwod

Obviously we wash them. One would assume most people realize they need to wash fabric and reusable bags. Of course, I should know by now not to assume anything. But yes, we wash ours, inside and out. They're rigid enough to be "wiped" with cleaner wipes and yet, flexible enough to go through our washer.

Unless those sobeys bags have changed, you can't wipe the inside, its some kind of weird felt material that you can easily just pull away from the plastic. i'm guessing you can't put them in the dryer either.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Unless those sobeys bags have changed, you can't wipe the inside, its some kind of weird felt material that you can easily just pull away from the plastic. i'm guessing you can't put them in the dryer either.

http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Fold-Bag-...e+bags+grocery

Washable. Problem solved.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Sly

http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Fold-Bag-...e+bags+grocery

Washable. Problem solved.

this item is not available to ship to your area

and not available on amazon.ca

too bad, they looked like quality

this is what the government of canada is telling us to do when using reusable bags...use more plastic bags! doesn't that defeat the point?

Wrap your raw meat, poultry, and seafood in individual plastic bags (found in most produce and meat sections). This will help prevent juices from leaking out and contaminating your reusable bags/bins and other foods.

Wrap fresh produce in plastic bags to help protect them from contamination. It's particularly important to avoid contaminating fresh foods that will not be cooked before eating.

[dyna mo]

As I transition to 100% germaphobe I wash all my groceries these days, bottles, cans, bags, jugs, all the packaging as well as all the "fresh" stuff.

A while back I Saw some kids picking their noses and wiping boogers on grocery items as they ran down aisles, not to mention all the unmentionables people put in grocery carts.... their kid's dirty asses sitting on the cart shelf for starters.

[Marcus Aurelius]

California should ban illegal shitbag aliens

Ayy

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Unless those sobeys bags have changed, you can't wipe the inside, its some kind of weird felt material that you can easily just pull away from the plastic. i'm guessing you can't put them in the dryer either.

Imagine that slightly contaminated reusable bag waiting in your hot car for it's next use. It will grow bacteria at an alarming rate in the bag and your car.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

As I transition to 100% germaphobe I wash all my groceries these days, bottles, cans, bags, jugs, all the packaging as well as all the "fresh" stuff.

A while back I Saw some kids picking their noses and wiping boogers on grocery items as they ran down aisles, not to mention all the unmentionables people put in grocery carts.... their kid's dirty asses sitting on the cart shelf for starters.

It's actually good for you. Your body needs exposure to all kinds of filth in order to develop immunity.

Michael Jackson slept in a hypobaric chamber. Look what happened to him.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Sly

http://www.amazon.com/Easy-Fold-Bag-...e+bags+grocery

Washable. Problem solved.

Wear a rubber and no pregnancies or diseases, how's that working in the "general" population?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius

It's actually good for you. Your body needs exposure to all kinds of filth in order to develop immunity.

Michael Jackson slept in a hypobaric chamber. Look what happened to him.

Perhaps, for the general pop over time and for some things. It's not good for me, my immune system is kaput, type 1 diabetes.

[clickity click]

Don't carrier bags biodegrade anyway? I found an old carrier bag at the back of a cupboard and it pretty much turned to dust when I picked it up.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Rochard

A new law in California bans "single use plastic bags" - the kinds handed out at stores.

I fail to understand this. These bags aren't single use at all. We take them home, toss them in a draw in our dryer and re-use them for everything. I use them for our kid's lunch, snacks on my bike rides, when I travel, cleaning up dog crap in the front yard, and even use them to line the smaller garbage cans in the house.

This sucks.

cali= destroy jobs hire illegals

[Yngwie]

the grocery stores in my town in Canada charge 5 cents per plastic bag that you end up using. They have reusable material bags that they sell I think at $5 each.