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  • myleene
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2013
    • 906

    #1

    Rant Pirate tube asking for model release, ID and 2257 after a DMCA

    Anyone got this before?


    Am I the only one getting this or now pirate sites don't feel it's enough to blatantly steal... They have to get the content free for themselves too? Is it the new thing?

    I've been threatened to get sued if a DMCA made a pirate website go offline before as the owner told me he would lose money (I wished he did). But, otherwise I've had reasonable success with DMCAs.

    Anybody else got similar stories?


    I do own full rights to this content.
  • Seth Manson
    Please dont fuck animals
    • Jul 2010
    • 3988

    #2
    You dont have to prove that you own it to the pirate, he has to prove that he owns it to the his host, registrar, and whoever else the DMCA was sent to.

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    • seeric
      ..........
      • Aug 2004
      • 41917

      #3
      What is the site requesting this?

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      • myleene
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2013
        • 906

        #4
        Originally posted by Seth Manson
        You dont have to prove that you own it to the pirate, he has to prove that he owns it to the his host, registrar, and whoever else the DMCA was sent to.
        True. And considering their size... They surely know what they're doing.

        What is the site requesting this?
        CloudFlare and XVideos.

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        • 10 Inch Dick
          So Fucking Banned
          • May 2014
          • 102

          #5
          I had DMCA once where some fucktard claimed a well known porn model was his wife and claimed I hacked into his PC. Some people are batshit crazy

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          • blackmonsters
            Making PHP work
            • Nov 2002
            • 20961

            #6
            Originally posted by myleene
            Anyone got this before?


            Am I the only one getting this or now pirate sites don't feel it's enough to blatantly steal... They have to get the content free for themselves too? Is it the new thing?

            I've been threatened to get sued if a DMCA made a pirate website go offline before as the owner told me he would lose money (I wished he did). But, otherwise I've had reasonable success with DMCAs.

            Anybody else got similar stories?


            I do own full rights to this content.
            Email them back and tell them that you charge $5k for that.

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            • NatalieK
              Natalie K
              • Apr 2010
              • 20106

              #7
              Originally posted by myleene
              CloudFlare and XVideos.
              I hear you should stay clear of xvideos, speak to JT regarding their affairs

              We've always used xhamster & pornhub to show our movies, they also remove videos immediately when asked.

              Maybe email reply in block caps, REMOVE MY CONTENT NOW PLEASE. good luck hun x
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              • AdultKing
                Raise Your Weapon
                • Jun 2003
                • 15601

                #8
                Originally posted by myleene
                Anyone got this before?
                You do not have to provide this and you should not provide this.

                Please contact us at http://copycontrol.org/contact-us with full details, we'll put them back in their place and get the content removed.

                You should also consider joining Adult IP http://adultip.org

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                • Emil
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 5658

                  #9
                  Originally posted by myleene

                  CloudFlare and XVideos.
                  Cloudflare?
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                  • PornDiscounts-V
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 5744

                    #10
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                    • Markul
                      Likes Pie
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 12403

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Emil
                      Cloudflare?
                      You can laugh, but they are making a lot of money on serving pirated content
                      But.... I pulled out...

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                      • Paully
                        www.Max-Hardcore.com
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 1556

                        #12
                        What everybody said here is correct. Don't give them a fucking thing. If there is a dispute sometimes you have to give a little(maybe screenshot from your members area) but in no way would I give up a models name, contract, 2257.

                        Like Seth said said go upstream if they don't comply. Host, advertisers, registrar, upstream hosts, visa/mc etc...

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                        • ErectMedia
                          Confirmed Chicago Pimp
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 7100

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Seth Manson
                          You dont have to prove that you own it to the pirate, he has to prove that he owns it to the his host, registrar, and whoever else the DMCA was sent to.
                          +1

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                          • SplatterMaster
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 790

                            #14

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                            • myleene
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 906

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SplatterMaster
                              lol.


                              For now, the content is removed. They're still asking for them. They won't get them though.

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                              • DWB
                                Registered User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 31779

                                #16
                                Which shit bag lawyers in the biz represent them? I'm guessing the same ones at every show touting their services. Criminals, all.

                                Don't give them shit and sue them if they don't remove the content.

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                                • jreg81
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2009
                                  • 972

                                  #17
                                  Glad we jumped ship on them not long ago. Their tactics are starting to add up to make me think they are about to flip a big "fuck you guys!" switch real soon.

                                  First, they are caught targeting site brand names in their SEO to bolster their own pages with no links or videos from that brand name listed.

                                  Then, they began to require uploaders click away intellectual rights to the videos or face deletion

                                  Now this.
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                                  • fitzmulti
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                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 14861

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by vvvvv
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                                    • SplatterMaster
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2012
                                      • 790

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by myleene
                                      lol.


                                      For now, the content is removed. They're still asking for them. They won't get them though.
                                      That's Lee Holloway, Matthew Prince and Michelle Zatlyn btw. The founders of CloudFlare or as some call it CrimeFlare. They even pose as pirates.

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                                      • 10 Inch Dick
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • May 2014
                                        • 102

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by AdultKing
                                        You do not have to provide this and you should not provide this.

                                        Please contact us at http://copycontrol.org/contact-us with full details, we'll put them back in their place and get the content removed.

                                        You should also consider joining Adult IP http://adultip.org
                                        The fucked up part about this is even brassmonkey can send standard DMCA email from gmail account and claim he is the owner of $5 dollar video you bought from Paul Markham 10 years ago. Tube owner (those that do) emails you and requests proof and you have to look for paperwork to prove some punkass is full of shit.

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                                        • AdultKing
                                          Raise Your Weapon
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 15601

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 10 Inch Dick
                                          The fucked up part about this is even brassmonkey can send standard DMCA email from gmail account and claim he is the owner of $5 dollar video you bought from Paul Markham 10 years ago. Tube owner (those that do) emails you and requests proof and you have to look for paperwork to prove some punkass is full of shit.
                                          The law is the law, it's not perfect (not even close) but it's all we have at the moment.

                                          As the law stands, all you need to send is a DMCA notice as proscribed in the legislation.

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                                          • k0nr4d
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2006
                                            • 9231

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by AdultKing
                                            As the law stands, all you need to send is a DMCA notice as proscribed in the legislation.
                                            Isn't it possible for someone to challenge a DMCA though? I'm not saying that's the case here - but I do know alot of these big tubes now do buy content and upload it themselves, it's not outside of the realm of possibility that they DO own rights (or at least think they own rights because they were sold them by a content broker) to certain content that someone is DMCAing...
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                                            • AdultKing
                                              Raise Your Weapon
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 15601

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by k0nr4d
                                              Isn't it possible for someone to challenge a DMCA though? I'm not saying that's the case here - but I do know alot of these big tubes now do buy content and upload it themselves, it's not outside of the realm of possibility that they DO own rights (or at least think they own rights because they were sold them by a content broker) to certain content that someone is DMCAing...
                                              Yes, you can issue a counter notice to a DMCA using the proscribed process as detailed in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

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