God-and my Mother-In-Law - GoFuckYourself.com

ronaldo · 03-12-2003, 10:29 AM

I had this conversation last night with my Mother-In-Law that I thought I'd throw out for discussion.

I'm agnostic in that I'd like to BELIEVE that there's a God, but I'd need to see some sort of proof (I'm from Missouri).

Two points that were brought up really bugged my ass.

I told her that if there was a God, he wouldn't allow a 2 year old baby to be raped and killed with a brick to her head (anyone from Winnipeg remember this one? Still bugs me to this day), then make her parents pay to feed this man for the rest of his life.

Her lame ass argument was that God put us here to do the "Will of man" or "Men will do, what men will do", some crap like that. Whatever.

Then she said that she "Felt sorry for me", because I must be a very angry person.

I reiterated and told her that I "Felt sorry for her" because her life must be so empty that she needed something outside of her life to believe in and give her strength.

I told her that I'm very happy and look to my family for my strength and don't need some false idol to pray to.

Now on THAT note, I do truly envy those that CAN have the faith. I saw the strength that it DID give to my Mother-In-Law when her husband died. If that what it takes her to get though tough times, all the power to her. I wish that I COULD believe, but I can't. But, I was fucking pissed off when she questioned MY beliefs and MY happiness.

One more questions that no religious freak has ever been able to answer to my satisfaction is this. Are there different levels of hell? I'm sure I've broken some of the ten commandments so if am I going to hell for say, stealing a car or something, am I gonna be sitting right beside Hitler?

ADL Colin · 03-12-2003, 10:46 AM

I don't think the argument is very good. Why must a god necessarily be benevolent? Why not a vengeful mean-spirited god? You know, like the one in the Old Testament that killed the first born son in every house in Egypt as vengeance against the Pharoah?

Also, it's not a good idea to tell your mother-in-law that you feel sorry for her even if she did say it first. You are heading for a divorce.

[Labret] · 03-12-2003, 10:52 AM

Free will is a myth. Like "good" and "evil".

ronaldo · 03-12-2003, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

Also, it's not a good idea to tell your mother-in-law that you feel sorry for her even if she did say it first. You are heading for a divorce.

No, my wife is intelligent enough to appreciate a good discussion where two people can have differing opinions.

She also knows that her mom is exceptionally pretentious. "When I went to school with Neil Young...", "When we were over at Burton's (Cummings) house...." "I saw Brad's (Brad Roberts from the Crash Test Dummies) mom today. Brad is doing well." etc. etc.

I just ignore her and my wife rolls her eyes.

gripcash · 03-12-2003, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
Free will is a myth. Like "good" and "evil".

You're just saying that because your genes and environmental influences led you to that belief.

[Labret] · 03-12-2003, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by gripcash

You're just saying that because your genes and environmental influences led you to that belief.

hehe bravo!

03-12-2003, 10:29 AM	#1
ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	God-and my Mother-In-Law I had this conversation last night with my Mother-In-Law that I thought I'd throw out for discussion. I'm agnostic in that I'd like to BELIEVE that there's a God, but I'd need to see some sort of proof (I'm from Missouri). Two points that were brought up really bugged my ass. I told her that if there was a God, he wouldn't allow a 2 year old baby to be raped and killed with a brick to her head (anyone from Winnipeg remember this one? Still bugs me to this day), then make her parents pay to feed this man for the rest of his life. Her lame ass argument was that God put us here to do the "Will of man" or "Men will do, what men will do", some crap like that. Whatever. Then she said that she "Felt sorry for me", because I must be a very angry person. I reiterated and told her that I "Felt sorry for her" because her life must be so empty that she needed something outside of her life to believe in and give her strength. I told her that I'm very happy and look to my family for my strength and don't need some false idol to pray to. Now on THAT note, I do truly envy those that CAN have the faith. I saw the strength that it DID give to my Mother-In-Law when her husband died. If that what it takes her to get though tough times, all the power to her. I wish that I COULD believe, but I can't. But, I was fucking pissed off when she questioned MY beliefs and MY happiness. One more questions that no religious freak has ever been able to answer to my satisfaction is this. Are there different levels of hell? I'm sure I've broken some of the ten commandments so if am I going to hell for say, stealing a car or something, am I gonna be sitting right beside Hitler?

03-12-2003, 10:46 AM	#2
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	I don't think the argument is very good. Why must a god necessarily be benevolent? Why not a vengeful mean-spirited god? You know, like the one in the Old Testament that killed the first born son in every house in Egypt as vengeance against the Pharoah? Also, it's not a good idea to tell your mother-in-law that you feel sorry for her even if she did say it first. You are heading for a divorce. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

03-12-2003, 10:52 AM	#3
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	Free will is a myth. Like "good" and "evil".