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PR_Glen 10-01-2014 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 20239253)
I'm not a dog owner, but every dog owner I know uses those little plastic bags the stores hand out to pick up the dog shit. Ban those bags and what options remain for Fido's owner? Paper bags? I don't think so. Using their kitchen sinks to wash the shit out of a reusable plastic bag? I sure hope not. Purchase bags specifically for their dog's shit? Some will, but others won't.

I'm guessing the residents of municipalities that choose to ban plastic bags step in a hell of a lot more dog shit than everyone else.

http://c745.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/img/2009/poop_bags.jpg problem solved! one case will last for years, even with 3 giant dogs ;)

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20239353)
You have never had a bag of chicken leak? Or hamburger? It could even touch something in the cart before you get to checkout then it's transferred to your reusable bag by a can of tuna it touched.

Or how about some lady getting raw chicken or meat juice on her hand then touching fruit you are going to buy 3 minutes later?

All sorts of ways you can get contaminated food.
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If my meat is leaking i wont buy it and you are supposed to rinse vegetables and fruit before you eat them for a number of reasons, that being one of them. I know it can happen unintentionally but now we are talking about germs, not the environmental effects of plastic bags. Plastic bags don't protect you from that.


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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20239372)
Your use of logic with him is rather amusing. His type doesn't want to hear it.

My type? I assure you, you have never come across anyone in your lifetime who is like me, i'm as strange as it gets... The fact that you specify logic is hilarious being as you are clearly emotionally invested in this subject which makes it impossible for you to be using any form of logic yourself no less argue a point.

Theo 10-01-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20238963)
A new law in California bans "single use plastic bags" - the kinds handed out at stores.

I fail to understand this. These bags aren't single use at all. We take them home, toss them in a draw in our dryer and re-use them for everything. I use them for our kid's lunch, snacks on my bike rides, when I travel, cleaning up dog crap in the front yard, and even use them to line the smaller garbage cans in the house.

This sucks.

We do the same, although some of the 7/eleven etc stores they have such thin bags you can barely put anything before they'll tear

dyna mo 10-01-2014 09:18 AM

I'm embarrassed for any kid that has to take a lunch to school is a used single use plastic grocery bag.

420 10-01-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20240068)
I'm embarrassed for any kid that has to take a lunch to school is a used single use plastic grocery bag.

He's a rochard so obviously the most popular cool kid in school. Its embarrassing enough when your lunch says walmart on the side; imagine if you were less fortunate and had to use a kmart bag instead.

Rochard 10-01-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20240068)
I'm embarrassed for any kid that has to take a lunch to school is a used single use plastic grocery bag.

Another one who clearly doesn't have kids.

High school kids do not carry lunch boxes to school. They used to use paper bags until the powers that be decided these were evil for some reason. Then they all started using plastic bags.

Rochard 10-01-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AVN Theo (Post 20240062)
We do the same, although some of the 7/eleven etc stores they have such thin bags you can barely put anything before they'll tear

We reuse these bags for everything. I just went to Europe for two weeks and used them. I put my shampoo into a bag, and a few other things. I also took a few more along for dirty laundry. Worked great.

Rochard 10-01-2014 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20240075)
He's a rochard so obviously the most popular cool kid in school. Its embarrassing enough when your lunch says walmart on the side; imagine if you were less fortunate and had to use a kmart bag instead.

I haven't been to kmart since I was a child and that was a long time ago. I haven't been to Wal Mart in some time - like five years.

Then again, i haven't been to a super market in five or six years either. I have a wife for that kind of stuff.

420 10-01-2014 09:33 AM

They really banned paper bags? lol wtf

dyna mo 10-01-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20240087)
Another one who clearly doesn't have kids.

High school kids do not carry lunch boxes to school. They used to use paper bags until the powers that be decided these were evil for some reason. Then they all started using plastic bags.

Clearly don't have kids? :1orglaugh wtg sherlock, clearly a big observation for you.

regardless, as an adult male, I am embarrassed for any high schooler who's parents make them use shitty, used single use plastic grocery bags for lunch because they're too chinzy to find an alternative. dog shit, teen's lunch, wtf, put it in a pos used single use plastic bag so you can go buy another illegal assault rifle.

:1orglaugh

420 10-01-2014 09:36 AM

Do you think they recycle the plastic bags that had dog poo in them?

dyna mo 10-01-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20240075)
He's a rochard so obviously the most popular cool kid in school. Its embarrassing enough when your lunch says walmart on the side; imagine if you were less fortunate and had to use a kmart bag instead.

he's a classy guy, he only sends his teens to school with a cheese sandwich dropped in a fancy brand name used single use plastic bags.

BlackCrayon 10-01-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20240087)
Another one who clearly doesn't have kids.

High school kids do not carry lunch boxes to school. They used to use paper bags until the powers that be decided these were evil for some reason. Then they all started using plastic bags.

true, high schoolers won't use lunch boxes. when i was in high school i used those small paper bags. though half the time i would throw out the whole lunch and buy something (not at the cafeteria, that food was horrible). i don't see how they could of banned those. did they ban paper and plastic plates too?

BlackCrayon 10-01-2014 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20239976)
http://c745.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/img/2009/poop_bags.jpg problem solved! one case will last for years, even with 3 giant dogs ;)


If my meat is leaking i wont buy it and you are supposed to rinse vegetables and fruit before you eat them for a number of reasons, that being one of them. I know it can happen unintentionally but now we are talking about germs, not the environmental effects of plastic bags. Plastic bags don't protect you from that.




My type? I assure you, you have never come across anyone in your lifetime who is like me, i'm as strange as it gets... The fact that you specify logic is hilarious being as you are clearly emotionally invested in this subject which makes it impossible for you to be using any form of logic yourself no less argue a point.

the biggest problem is people are going to do whatever is easiest. also, you've got to wonder if the waste and pollution created making those compostable poop bags negates any environmental benefit.

robwod 10-01-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20240121)
true, high schoolers won't use lunch boxes.

Sure they do. There's almost a "status" about them now, at least around here. Check out that Yumbox link I posted earlier, or the Benito ones, or especially any of the insulated ones. Like backpacks, a quality insulated lunch bag is very common and much in fashion. And then the kids usually buy lunch on a common day of the week... like Monday might be the day a bunch of them go out somewhere and buy it. The rest of the days are bagged.

Rochard 10-01-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20240121)
true, high schoolers won't use lunch boxes. when i was in high school i used those small paper bags. though half the time i would throw out the whole lunch and buy something (not at the cafeteria, that food was horrible). i don't see how they could of banned those. did they ban paper and plastic plates too?

I don't believe they've banned paper bags. The stores starting using plastic years ago, and everyone just said to themselves "why am I buying paper bags when the stores don't use them and I have all of these plastic bags".

Whatever. We'll just have to go buy paper bags again. It's just pointless. Instead of using plastic bags twice, we'll just have single use paper bags. Didn't solve any problems, just made life tiny bit more difficult. Now I'll have to carry my bags into Target. I'll get over it. It's just stupid.

BlackCrayon 10-01-2014 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by robwod (Post 20240134)
Sure they do. There's almost a "status" about them now, at least around here. Check out that Yumbox link I posted earlier, or the Benito ones, or especially any of the insulated ones. Like backpacks, a quality insulated lunch bag is very common and much in fashion. And then the kids usually buy lunch on a common day of the week... like Monday might be the day a bunch of them go out somewhere and buy it. The rest of the days are bagged.

i could see girls taking those old school lunch boxes to school but not guys. i bought lunch at least 3 days out of the week when i was in high school. we'd all go down to this short order place everyday and hang out. sometimes i would eat the lunch my mom packed and buy lunch as well. haha. buying food was terrible looking back. my typical purchased lunch from the short order place was a cheesedog, orange crush and reese cups. terrible..

baddog 10-01-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20240096)
They really banned paper bags? lol wtf

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3769826.html

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Originally Posted by robwod (Post 20240134)
Sure they do. There's almost a "status" about them now, at least around here.

And where is "here?" Kids walk by my house daily on the way to school; cannot remember seeing a lunch box being carried by any.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20240147)
I don't believe they've banned paper bags.

Certain cities (like LA) did.

BlackCrayon 10-01-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20240147)
I don't believe they've banned paper bags. The stores starting using plastic years ago, and everyone just said to themselves "why am I buying paper bags when the stores don't use them and I have all of these plastic bags".

Whatever. We'll just have to go buy paper bags again. It's just pointless. Instead of using plastic bags twice, we'll just have single use paper bags. Didn't solve any problems, just made life tiny bit more difficult. Now I'll have to carry my bags into Target. I'll get over it. It's just stupid.

so you previously sent your kids to school with paper bags used to bag groceries? damn, how big are their lunches? i just used those small paper bags you'd buy 50,100 or whatever at a time.

life is wasteful. i recently cleaned out the basement a bit and what i couldn't give away all went into the trash. 12 huge bags full of stuff no one wanted. what are we to do? one house reno creates more garbage that will take decades to degrade (if ever) than most people throw away in a year. drywall is horrible for landfills but anyone who has done work on their homes has done it. we could go on all day about worse things we throw away than plastic bags. i bring back all my unused plastic bags to the store for recycling btw.

420 10-01-2014 10:11 AM

You should get your kid to bring the plastic infinite use bags home for tomorrow's lunch. Do you think he'd be willing to take a pic of all the people in the school cafeteria eating lunch out of target bags?

Using the bags twice is a nice thought, but if you weren't going to buy plastic bags, it makes no difference in the amount of plastic ending up as waste.

420 10-01-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20240152)

hmm

"The council also states that recycling one ton of plastic bags costs $4,000, while the recycled product can be sold for only $32."

robwod 10-01-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20240148)
i could see girls taking those old school lunch boxes to school but not guys. i bought lunch at least 3 days out of the week when i was in high school. we'd all go down to this short order place everyday and hang out. sometimes i would eat the lunch my mom packed and buy lunch as well. haha. buying food was terrible looking back. my typical purchased lunch from the short order place was a cheesedog, orange crush and reese cups. terrible..

Heh, mine was a chesseburger, with french fries and gravy and 3 bacon strips. Or, there was always a standard "Chips, dressing a gravy" when I lived in Nfld for a time. It looks gross, but is delicious.

robwod 10-01-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20240152)
And where is "here?" Kids walk by my house daily on the way to school; cannot remember seeing a lunch box being carried by any.

East/Atlantic coast of Canada. The insulated lunch bags are inside the backpacks, which are huge these days. Whenever we go out to lunch and there are local high school, or middle school kids, they all have these insulated cooler bags that hold their lunch, along with those lunch boxes with the separate sections in them. There's a huge push on them here as school starts, and they're just like a common things, just as common as Otter Boxes the kids use for their phones. It seems the tackier it looks, or the blinding color, is all too common.

Could be just a geographical thing, no idea.

Tom_PM 10-01-2014 10:47 AM

Get your kid a bento box or something trendy in their opinion.

It's kind of odd that Californians voted for progress (kind of) in what their food is carried home in, but against progress in knowing what's in the food itself.

TheDA 10-01-2014 10:50 AM

They've tried to restrict usage of them in the UK for a few years only to see an increase in usage I believe. Now in a few weeks they are introducing a 5p per bag charge for them, the proceeds of which go to charity.

For me, it often works out as the most convenient option so I can't really see any changes on my part.

atom 10-01-2014 12:41 PM

I didn't know people still packed their kids lunches. Until my son recently graduated I would just deposit 50 bucks on his school lunch account every 3-5 weeks. He entered a pin number at checkout that was it. Their menu always looked pretty good.

When I went to school, my parents a lot of the time had already left for work by the time I got up. I would have $2 bucks left for me on the kitchen table. Towards the end of highschool, this money is what funded my smoking habit. Who needs to eat when you have a marb red hanging out of your mouth. Shit, we even had a smoking section at high school.

2MuchMark 10-01-2014 12:56 PM

Too bad we can't figure out a way to sort and recycle all the plastic that goes into our garbage. Counting on people to recycle is ok, but too much plastic still ends up in the garbage and eventually in the ocean. Sad.

2MuchMark 10-01-2014 01:00 PM


marlboroack 10-01-2014 01:18 PM

They are really bad for the environment.

NatalieK 10-01-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20239976)
http://c745.r45.cf2.rackcdn.com/img/2009/poop_bags.jpg problem solved! one case will last for years, even with 3 giant dogs ;)

Were you helping Rochard with his dilemma of school lunch sandwich bags, imagine the bullying :1orglaugh

KillerK 10-01-2014 01:34 PM

I bring the blue ikea bags now. Those fuckers hold a ton of heavy shit!

candyflip 10-01-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20239282)
You don't have kids, do you? The odds of my high schooler bringing back something from lunch is pretty slim.

And while I am at it, that's just for the sandwich. What about the other stuff? No bag?

My 5 year olds manage to do so with out any problems. I take it your kids are as bright as you are.

L-Pink 10-01-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20240351)
Too bad we can't figure out a way to sort and recycle all the plastic that goes into our garbage. Counting on people to recycle is ok, but too much plastic still ends up in the garbage and eventually in the ocean. Sad.

Could you share how the plastic I have picked up at my curb ends up in the ocean and not in a landfill?

directfiesta 10-01-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20240090)
We reuse these bags for everything. I just went to Europe for two weeks and used them. I put my shampoo into a bag, and a few other things. I also took a few more along for dirty laundry. Worked great.

I am doing that just now ... packing for Cuba ... a bag for the lotion, a bag for the moutwash , a bag for ....

Last year, I forgot to do that for a cough syrup ... the whole shit was all over my clothes :mad:

Meanwhile, I still think that plastic is a problem ...

Vrindavan 10-03-2014 11:53 PM

the law is rigid.
Many people do re-use the bags before throwing them away.

Manfap 10-04-2014 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20239545)
And again... You don't have kids do you?

Yeah, they'll carry their phones home with them but fuck all when it comes to their chargers... I couldn't count how many times my kid has gone with no phone because the charger was left at someone's house.

Sounds like your kid needs to be more responsible.

dyna mo 10-04-2014 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20240351)
Too bad we can't figure out a way to sort and recycle all the plastic that goes into our garbage. Counting on people to recycle is ok, but too much plastic still ends up in the garbage and eventually in the ocean. Sad.

those that follow the reality of pollution and recycling instead of political blogs on the subject know that we can and have figured out a way to sort all the plastic in garbage- infrared lasers have been doing it for years.


now you know, you're welcome!


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