Guess the position of your country
In this Bloomberg most efficient health care ranking:
http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/rhpTqieX4Fuc
http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/rhpTqieX4Fuc
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Not surprised to see my country in 34th, people get paid way too much here!But.... I pulled out... -
Let me help everyone here in the U.S. who doesn't want to open a .pdf file
The U.S. is ranked LOW. Number 44 to be exact.
I'm going to guess that info will be used to say: "See! We need 'universal healthcare' and thank God for 'ObamaCare' "
I am of the opinion that before the govt. got heavily involved in "health care" with HMO's back 30 years ago that our health care system was great. You didn't NEED insurance because it was cheap enough to pay out of pocket for all but the most catastrophic health needs.
But once the govt. got involved...our health care system became "broken". And now we once again need the govt. to "fix" something...that the govt. broke in the first place.
Funny how that seems to be the case in so many things in our society. The govt. creates the problem and then "fixes" it. And we end up not as well off as we were before the govt. ever got involved in the first place.
Just my opinion based on what I've seen in my lifetime.-Robbie
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18 - not so bad for an eastern european shithole (as some of you like to call it)
edit: also not bad for mandatory, government owned universal healthcare ;)Last edited by MaDalton; 09-21-2014, 10:18 AM.Comment
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Lol at USA just ahead of IranComment
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Again singapore ranking first in something,someone would start to think how they made heaven there lol.Tho my country not even on that list lolComment
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Thank the Kaiser family and Richard Nixon. One day Kaiser rolled off his kids ass and thought, "Healthcare for profit!" and of course Nixon, a republican, thought, "What's in it for me?" Bang, done deal.Let me help everyone here in the U.S. who doesn't want to open a .pdf file
The U.S. is ranked LOW. Number 44 to be exact.
I'm going to guess that info will be used to say: "See! We need 'universal healthcare' and thank God for 'ObamaCare' "
I am of the opinion that before the govt. got heavily involved in "health care" with HMO's back 30 years ago that our health care system was great. You didn't NEED insurance because it was cheap enough to pay out of pocket for all but the most catastrophic health needs.
But once the govt. got involved...our health care system became "broken". And now we once again need the govt. to "fix" something...that the govt. broke in the first place.
Funny how that seems to be the case in so many things in our society. The govt. creates the problem and then "fixes" it. And we end up not as well off as we were before the govt. ever got involved in the first place.
Just my opinion based on what I've seen in my lifetime.
Watch the "Fog of War." Robert McNamara brings it up.Comment
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Israel is #7.
At least we are good in something
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No surprise there..
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They kill giraffes because they hate everyone. Those Danes!Comment
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Netherlands at 40 from 25 last year ... sounds legitComment
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Well,i remembered one good joke about Czech envy which i read on expats.cz and it goes like this:
A man come to other man garden and tells a host how one snail will escape from a bucket.
And the host says "Dont worry,those are Czech snails,others will pull him back".Comment
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This is a total joke, i now know how serious and accurate their studies are...Comment
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Yes there is also "Croatian envy" and i though how envy is exclusive to us but apparently it isn't
We even have expression "Da'Bog'da susjedu crkla krava" which means "Let God kill neighbor cow"
or "If only God would kill neighbor cow" .Some expression cannot be translated 100% correct,even in english sometime is best to leave expression un-translated.Comment
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Same here (saying is "one is happy when neighbor's house is on fire"). Every country in the region tends to think that they are the worst people etcYes there is also "Croatian envy" and i though how envy is exclusive to us but apparently it isn't
We even have expression "Da'Bog'da susjedu crkla krava" which means "Let God kill neighbor cow"
or "If only God would kill neighbor cow" .Some expression cannot be translated 100% correct,even in english sometime is best to leave expression un-translated.
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after 2 wars, 20+ years of sanctions our 3rd world shit hole scores better than 1st world USA...
in my entire life I have spent maybe 5000$ on heathcare and most of that was for one operation I could not wait a month to do for free but had to have my skull opened by the head of maxiofacial surgery in the best clinic ASAP so it cost me a whopping 3000$ total with 7 days stay in hospital and all the cat/mri/bloodwork included...
its hard to fuck up healtcare like in the USA...in fact i think the USA is probably the only country in the world with predatory health care I really have never heard of such medical bills anywhere else but in free america
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What was the US ranked in 2005, before Romneycare took effect? (See what I did there?)Let me help everyone here in the U.S. who doesn't want to open a .pdf file
The U.S. is ranked LOW. Number 44 to be exact.
I'm going to guess that info will be used to say: "See! We need 'universal healthcare' and thank God for 'ObamaCare' "
I am of the opinion that before the govt. got heavily involved in "health care" with HMO's back 30 years ago that our health care system was great. You didn't NEED insurance because it was cheap enough to pay out of pocket for all but the most catastrophic health needs.
But once the govt. got involved...our health care system became "broken". And now we once again need the govt. to "fix" something...that the govt. broke in the first place.
Funny how that seems to be the case in so many things in our society. The govt. creates the problem and then "fixes" it. And we end up not as well off as we were before the govt. ever got involved in the first place.
Just my opinion based on what I've seen in my lifetime.
It's a serious question however.Herschel Savage
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k...time for me to move to singa singaComment
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Nice stats cooking
Both Belarus and Romania outrank the USA. So, travel to Belarus or Romania for your next serious medical event -- I wish you well ...Comment
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This is not the quality of the service, but effectiveness ranking. Like if you get a service in X country for 10.000$ and same service in Y country,0 which may be 3% worse quality, but for 2000$ than the second country would outrank the first.Comment
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Bottom bitch.
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I expected the UK to be a lot lower than 10th.
Free yes, but not exactly efficient.Comment
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Im on my phone. Canada is #1?Fuck offComment
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I heard Britain will give you a free boob job or gastric band on nhs.Fuck offComment
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Actually, not quite, it's comparing life expectancy vs spending... life expectancy is obviously based on dozens of factors other than spending, so drawing conclusions about efficiency is almost pointless...
One such factor might be smoking / alcohol consumption rates, it's not really a health care issue, but more of a social problem, in some countries it's just more "cool" to smoke/drink...
for example Singapore has one of the lowest smoking/alcohol consumption rates in the world, leading to high life expectancy, which leads to "high efficiency"... while Russia has one of the highest, leading to low life expectancy, which leads to "low efficiency"...
so in those 2 examples, it tries to draw economic conclusions ("efficiency"), when main factor causing the differences may be social differences between those 2 countries...Last edited by woj; 09-22-2014, 04:01 AM.Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000
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Just another useless table. How do they measure it? I'll just show you an example. Right a hour ago my wife went to the clinic for a thyroid ultrasound (she hasn't back yet). The clinic is located only two blocks away from the place we live at and the price of of this procedure is... ZERO (0 rubles/dollars).
Why has she want there? Just because a couple of weeks ago she's got a full medical examination (guess the price of it? yes, it's also 0). That examination includes chest X-ray, electrocardiogram, gynecology + various urine and blood tests (biochemistry, hormones, tumor markers, viruses etc). Her doctor decided that the thyroid hormones are a bit outstanding so she does ultrasound right now.
Now what I actually wanted to say. According to the table from the OP's post, there are lots of countries with a "better" medicine. But why it is better? For example there are many GFY members from various counties. Guys, please tell me when exactly you or your relatives have done the most recent full medical examination and how much have you paid for it? As I said above, my wife did it about two weeks ago and it (the examination) still continues. The total price for all is 0.
P.S. My country is the last one in that table.Last edited by just a punk; 09-22-2014, 05:03 AM.Obey the CowgodComment
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