Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20219723)

What, the NHS is fucked?

I thought "free healthcare" was the best thing since sliced bread ... or so we in the US are told.

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20219355)

Here is how it should be (and will be):

Scotland = Independent cuntry.
Ireland = Independent cuntry
Wales = part of "England" because they share the same bloody island.
England = whatever's left + Wales.
Great Britain = Bye-Bye.
United Kingdon = Bye-bye.
Britain = No longer "great", just British.

Carry on.

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20219728)

There are many countries with free heath care. Not all are "fucked".
Also - not sure that NHS is "fucked" because it is "free".

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20219376)

The fact that most English people will tell you the UK is getting turning into a shithole more and more every day doesn't exactly work in the favour of "Better Together".

The current government, current UK policies, the NHS etc are all fucked as it stands.

And we have the most detestable people in Alistair Darling, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Boris Johnson, Nick Clegg to name a few telling us why the Union is so great.

It's a resounding YES from me !

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20219723)

What, the NHS is fucked?

I thought "free healthcare" was the best thing since sliced bread ... or so we in the US are told.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 20219614)

For the record Scotty if I lived in Scotland I'd be voting for independence, regardless of anything I've posted above (which are mainly my concerns more than anything else)

You can only push people so far before they decide it's time for a change, for better or for worse. The politicians in the UK have been taking the piss for too long and I think most people outside of London are getting very fed up with how the country is being run.

I certainly wish Scotland the best of luck and I hope the Scottish people prosper if they get their independence!

It's squeaky bum time! :pimp

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20219709)

Only Brits and Scots care about such minor details. LOL

Fuck it, Independance for all!! WooHoo!

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20220466)

A Cameron & Miliband tag-team. Oh my... :Oh crap


Desperate...

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20220474)

hey they agree on something

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20219359)

The best piece i have seen written on this so far:


I'm not taking any credit for this, I just saw someone's post on the Vote NO to Scottish independence and protect the union page and I thought it was genius!!

"I always find that if you flip the debate around with a no or undecided voter it always has the desired result. Try this next time you speak with a no voter, ask them how they would vote in this situation.....there can only be one outcome.

Imagine Scotland was already independent and we were about to have a referendum on whether to join a union with the rest of the UK.
Could the Pro-union side convince us that getting together would be better when we were told what would happen to Scotland after such a union? Some bullet points from the campaign?

-Your main Parliament will move 600 miles away, and your MPs will be in a tiny minority & will therefore have limited ability to effect policy on your behalf
-Scotland will get a government it didn?t vote for.
-All of your oil and gas revenues will be handed over to the treasury in London.
-Even though not 1 inch of track will touch Scottish soil your taxpayers will contribute £4.2bn to the HS2 project.
-Your taxpayers will also subsidise the crossrail project to the tune of £4.2bn
-The biggest nuclear weapons facility in Western Europe will be built on the river Clyde, just 30 miles from your largest city.
-Even though you only have 8.2% of the UK?s population you will contribute 9.9% of the UK?s total tax take yet will only receive 9.3% of that tax take back to spend in Scotland (you will lose £4.4bn per year to the UK treasury)
-You will devolve all of the economic levers you have used to shape your economy directly to London and will now only have control of 7% of your economy
-Even though 79% of your MP's voted against it we will privitise your publicly owned mail service
-Even though 91% of your MPs voted against the bedroom tax in your parliament, we will impose it.
-Even though 82% of your MP's believed that a VAT increase would be detrimental to your economy, we will impose a VAT increase.
-You will join a country whose health and education services are rapidly being privatised.
-Now and again you?ll get dragged into an illegal foreign war.
-An austerity budget will be imposed from London cutting jobs and threatening vital public services even though 81% of your MP's voted against the cuts.
-The financial regulation system will be so weak and so lax that your whole economy will be brought to the brink of collapse.
-The most weak and vulnerable in society, instead of getting the protection and support they deserve will be interrogated and humiliated in an effort to get them off the meagre levels of support to which they are entitled.
Who in Scotland would vote for such a package?
Who would vote for that union?

So why would anyone vote to remain in such a union now?

Originally Posted by facialfreak (Post 20221110)

Scotland is the Québec of the United Kingdom ...

Québec has been threatening to leave Canada for 40+ year now .... You guys have nothing to worry about! :Oh crap

Originally Posted by Norbi_LA (Post 20221315)

Does anyone have any idea if an independent Scotland would still belong to unions like the EU, NATO, etc?

Either way, I'm curious to see how this will play out, especially if they separate...

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20221359)

I kinda want it to go through just so the politicians hear the resounding 'fuck you, you bunch of self-serving cunts'

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20221725)

Poor Cameron said how his heart will be broken if Scotland leaves lol

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20219307)

With only 10 days to go, looks like it might actually happen! :warning

Seems the English media has finally woken up to the fact. Interesting few days ahead... :2 cents:

Originally Posted by VIXEN ESCORTS (Post 20222078)

Camerons a smug self serving bull shitter.............. I vote Tory !!!

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20222351)

Is Braveheart on a 24hour loop on all tv channels yet?
The day before the vote, they'll just cut out the 'FREEDOM' bit and loop that non stop.