West should stop dragging Ukraine into NATO ? Gorbachev - GoFuckYourself.com

wehateporn · 09-05-2014, 08:49 AM

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Ex-Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev has again blamed the ongoing turmoil in Ukraine on the hasty and thoughtless breakup of the USSR. He noted that a peaceful outcome could only be reached through resumed dialogue between Russia and the US.

The former Soviet leader expressed these opinions in the afterword to his latest book of memoirs called ?After the Kremlin? - soon to be released. The afterword was published before the book by the Novaya Gazeta newspaper.

Gorbachev writes that in his view the Ukrainian conflict can only be settled through dialogue, both inside the country and at an international level. He points out that leading nations were largely to blame for the current dire situation, as from the very beginning they were testing Ukraine?s integrity. EU countries, and first of all Germany and France, have already understood this and are taking steps to de-escalate the crisis, which is a good thing, the ex-president says.

Gorbachev also emphasized that good relations with Russia must become a priority in Ukraine?s foreign policy and this should also be understood and accepted by Western nations. Leaders of these nations should stop dragging Ukraine into NATO because these attempts would result in nothing but strife between Ukraine and Russia.

However, according to Gorbachev the main role in the settlement must be played jointly by Russia and the United States. These nations stand out because they are permanent members of the UN Security Council and can wield significant influence on the organization. The jointly prepared resolution could become a powerful factor with the potential to reverse the negative course of events.

Further development could be a broad dialogue between all Ukraine?s actors, with the ultimate objective of saving the country and reaching national accord. This will be very difficult after all the accusations, the enmity and the bloodshed, but there is no other way, Gorbachev wrote.

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just a punk · 09-05-2014, 08:55 AM

He said it right. Personally I was always respecting Gorbachev and still respect him.

CDSmith · 09-05-2014, 09:02 AM

Was Ukraine dragged into NATO or did they come willingly and eagerly like a pre-owned bride on her wedding night?

femdomdestiny · 09-05-2014, 09:13 AM

Probably biggest idiot in Russian history, but this time he is in right. It seems it took decades for him to become smarter.

Rochard · 09-05-2014, 09:42 AM

Sure sure. We should just let Russia take over entire countries.

I have friends in Ukraine. In fact, he lives in Donetsk. He is dead set against Donetsk becoming part of Russia. However, when I asked him this morning about the potential of a ceasefire, he said "I just don't care, I want this to stop".

People fail to understand the impact this has on people - No power, no food, no water, no banks, no money. If you flea the area, then what? Most people can't pay a mortgage and rent another house to live in, so they default on their mortgage and are now facing loosing their house. Just horrible all around.

TheSquealer · 09-05-2014, 09:55 AM

When i quoted someone that said "the only person to fail upwards more than Snookie is Al Sharpton"... that should be amended to include Gorbechev. A guy that fought tooth and nail to preserve Communism and the Soviet Union, then caused its collapse, was overthrown in a Communist coup due to his complete and total incompetence, he then became Clintons BFF and then went on Western speaking tours as a champion of capitalism and democracy, as if he was some sort of visionary leader.

femdomdestiny · 09-05-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Sure sure. We should just let Russia take over entire countries.

I have friends in Ukraine. In fact, he lives in Donetsk. He is dead set against Donetsk becoming part of Russia. However, when I asked him this morning about the potential of a ceasefire, he said "I just don't care, I want this to stop".

People fail to understand the impact this has on people - No power, no food, no water, no banks, no money. If you flea the area, then what? Most people can't pay a mortgage and rent another house to live in, so they default on their mortgage and are now facing loosing their house. Just horrible all around.

your friend have serious problems understanding basic thing that no one ever asked to join Russia, but asked for federalisation. Answer to that was bombing, attacking ,killing, etc,(after calling to kill all russians,jews and after denying Russian language)...

Ukrainian "government" (bunch of idiots) that came to power by force ,once they saw that will loose complete country accepted that. Info from hour ago (or less).

Kolargol · 09-05-2014, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

your friend have serious problems understanding basic thing that no one ever asked to join Russia, but asked for federalisation. Answer to that was bombing, attacking ,killing, etc,(after calling to kill all russians,jews and after denying Russian language)...

Ukrainian "government" (bunch of idiots) that came to power by force ,once they saw that will loose complete country accepted that. Info from hour ago (or less).

I wouldn't call Russian invasion with their tanks "asking".
Just like Hitler was asking in Guernica.

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wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	West should stop dragging Ukraine into NATO ? Gorbachev Full story http://rt.com/politics/185308-gorbac...isis-dialogue/ Ex-Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev has again blamed the ongoing turmoil in Ukraine on the hasty and thoughtless breakup of the USSR. He noted that a peaceful outcome could only be reached through resumed dialogue between Russia and the US. The former Soviet leader expressed these opinions in the afterword to his latest book of memoirs called ?After the Kremlin? - soon to be released. The afterword was published before the book by the Novaya Gazeta newspaper. Gorbachev writes that in his view the Ukrainian conflict can only be settled through dialogue, both inside the country and at an international level. He points out that leading nations were largely to blame for the current dire situation, as from the very beginning they were testing Ukraine?s integrity. EU countries, and first of all Germany and France, have already understood this and are taking steps to de-escalate the crisis, which is a good thing, the ex-president says. Gorbachev also emphasized that good relations with Russia must become a priority in Ukraine?s foreign policy and this should also be understood and accepted by Western nations. Leaders of these nations should stop dragging Ukraine into NATO because these attempts would result in nothing but strife between Ukraine and Russia. However, according to Gorbachev the main role in the settlement must be played jointly by Russia and the United States. These nations stand out because they are permanent members of the UN Security Council and can wield significant influence on the organization. The jointly prepared resolution could become a powerful factor with the potential to reverse the negative course of events. Further development could be a broad dialogue between all Ukraine?s actors, with the ultimate objective of saving the country and reaching national accord. This will be very difficult after all the accusations, the enmity and the bloodshed, but there is no other way, Gorbachev wrote. Continued http://rt.com/politics/185308-gorbac...isis-dialogue/ __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,915	Sure sure. We should just let Russia take over entire countries. I have friends in Ukraine. In fact, he lives in Donetsk. He is dead set against Donetsk becoming part of Russia. However, when I asked him this morning about the potential of a ceasefire, he said "I just don't care, I want this to stop". People fail to understand the impact this has on people - No power, no food, no water, no banks, no money. If you flea the area, then what? Most people can't pay a mortgage and rent another house to live in, so they default on their mortgage and are now facing loosing their house. Just horrible all around. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,193	When i quoted someone that said "the only person to fail upwards more than Snookie is Al Sharpton"... that should be amended to include Gorbechev. A guy that fought tooth and nail to preserve Communism and the Soviet Union, then caused its collapse, was overthrown in a Communist coup due to his complete and total incompetence, he then became Clintons BFF and then went on Western speaking tours as a champion of capitalism and democracy, as if he was some sort of visionary leader. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard Last edited by TheSquealer; 09-05-2014 at 10:00 AM..