ISIS, IS, ISIL are religious fanatics and mass murders. Left uncontrolled they may become genocidal upon their religious enemies.

Foreign powers military, economic and political support of the royal families and dictatorial rulers of the Arab countries have brought this Jihad about.

These Jihadists must be eradicated, as in exterminated, but the objective must not be to just keep those oppressive governments in power. As example, the Assad governments in Syria have murdered more Syrians than the Syrian Rebels have to date. Some of the mass murder by extremist Jihadist elements in Syria (and Iraq) is just blood vengeance. There is no right side is my point ...

Thing is: the Americans, Russians, to a lesser extent the Chinese have been supplying weaponry to the Arab states for years. Those states cannot stop ISIS on their own because the weapons are mainly used suppressing their own people. ISIS is a growth and reaction of this.

The best thing to do is to allow ISIS to gather themselves into an identifiable "Caliphate" to be dealt with as a target. The first line of defense should be the regional powers -- Iran, Egypt, the militarized Gulf states. If the Regional powers run away like little girls why should this be the US military's responsibility?

The Jihadists have stopped at the Israeli border in the Golan as they know attacking Israel would be suicide. Israel will not fight a war to save the Arab governments from the Jihadists. For the Israelis violating Syrian airspace is a joke -- they do as the please when necessary.

Lebanon's Shiite Hezbollah led government is silent. Why don't they start firing all those missiles they have in reserve at the Jihadists? They are waiting for someone else to fight their war for them? The mighty Jordanian Legion does nothing. The US sold the Saudi Air Force hundreds of jet fighter planes. Now that there is a crisis in their region, a threat to their own existence, they do nothing. The Egyptian military is busy in Libya so count them out for now -- all of the US military aid over the years to Egypt and their army is too busy controlling their own people.

These countries are not victims of the CIA or US foreign policy -- they haven't the will to fight to save themselves

Don't rely on the foreign powers to save your asses.

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Originally Posted by BOOBSARMY My opinion . ISIS = Israel

That is so illogical it is not worth comment.

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Originally Posted by BOOBSARMY what is your source of information that Iran & Egypt run away like little girls ? yes maybe its better if you dont comment

So tell me in all your wisdom what they have done?

Iran fed the Syrian regime for years now that has totally lost control of their own country. Good Job.

If the countries that the US has supplied military aid and sold weapons to for years can't defend themselves in their own region, that is a shame.

The Russians have fed Syria and Iran weapons and technology for years with the same result.

So, a bunch of fanatic Jihadists can overrun the Arab country's governments and take the weapons supplied by the foreign powers to those governments. Too bad, let ISIS assemble into an identifiable target then eliminate them -- there are powers capable of this and they are not the Arab nations or the Persians (Iranians).

End of story.

So much for those 20 aircraft the Iranians have lent to the Iraqis.
Look who had to save their asses again. This will cost American money and possibly military casualties. It is worth responding tit-for-tat on a rationed scale? The US could be doing this for years -- the USA should not be the Middle East police and fire department.

Don't overcomplicate the issue. Jihad is an Islamic tradition from the Middle Ages. I could care less if ISIS crawled out from under a rock. There is no apology or explanation adequate for genocidal behavior. Executing prisoners of war and and laying siege to civilian populations on the basis of no overt hostile actions and only to destroy their "infidel" religious beliefs is barbaric. ISIS are barbarians in the truest sense.

These (ISIS) Jihadists have used the time honored Islamic Holy War to murder their infidel co-religionists. There next goal may be us devil infidels of other than Muslim belief. That includes billions of people.

I don't care what someone believes in: but don't fuck with me because I don't believe in the same thing as you. If the people in the Arab (and Persian) countries want to live under their Sharia laws they have that right. However, the fanatic Jihadists do not have the right to mass-murder their own people in Allah's name.

Crockett, you are parroting the CNN line.

Many of these ISIS leaders are Russian trained Chechens. By trained I mean trained at killing Russians -- veterans of the Second Chechen War. And where do you think these Chechens would like to expand the Islamic Caliphate to? The Russians should be concerned ISIS is a far better cause than Ukraine and a real danger -- when will Putin pull his head out of his ass? This is why these ISIS Jihadists are operating more as a militia and not as common criminal terrorists.

True ISIS is more sophisticated than common terrorists: their governing authority, taxation and the like, the seizure of oil, power and water assets shows planning.

These same things will also make ISIS a static target. These US airstrikes seem to be blowing up light armored targets. What are we waiting for, ISIS to create tank columns and SAM missiles to deal with? As a standing army they are weak now -- they are a rag-tag Jihadist Army.

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1 hour ago TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) ? Islamist militia group says it has 'secured' a US Embassy compound in Libya's capital.

So, the Egyptian and Qatari airstrike efforts haven't done much good in Tripoli apparently.

There are 3 borders; Turkey, Israel and Iran, where ISIS can be contained and eliminated. They will breach none of these borders because there are real armies on the other side. If ISIS has any strategy they will head south to Mecca

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Originally Posted by crockett I'm not parroting cnn or any other news site. I don't even watch news on TV. When I decided to learn about ISS I searched out various sources. They stem from Iraq as I said but yes they have many nationalities fighting for them. I'm sure there are many Chechens among them as there are many radical Muslims there.

My Bad, I had just read a CNN article and it pretty much said the same.

The volunteers from Western non "Islamic" nations are of less concern to me as opposed to those from Muslim majority or "Islamic" Wahhabi or Sharia law nations. The spread of this Jihadi dream in the region and its periphery is of real concern mainly toward its containment and eradication before it becomes humanitarian catastrophe -- this is the direction in which it is heading. An army of camel herders and goat fuckers taking the living conditions in the region backward 1000 years is not desirable, to educated people at least ...

There is a "pari passu" of "adverse possession" of lands in the West Bank this would apply to both Jewish settlers and Palestinians -- this was a ruling of the Israel Supreme Court in 2012 barring adverse possession claims to both parties.

Without seeing the chain of title of the land's documented ownership who knows?

After 50 years of "belligerent occupation [look that term up if you are so interested in international law]", and belligerent negotiations, what do you expect?

This hasn't been to the Courts yet and seems more political posturing. Maybe, Abbas delivered his latest demand list and this is just a slap in the face? Neither side is really seeking a negotiated settlement ...

I hear all Israelis have horns and tails too ...

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-...-says-Pentagon

Why should the US taxpayer foot the bill? These air support missions are costing $500 million or more a month and accelerating. Are the Gulf States offering to sell their oil at 1/2 the world price to the US for doing their dirty work? Fuck no!

Although you make a good point on a humanitarian basis, the US just spent and continues to spend $4 trillion to $6 trillion dollars in Iraq and Afghan war costs. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...a60_story.html

Vaporizing ISIS might be cost efficient but we will have to resort to conventional weapons and that might cost a few billion a month. One of Osama's plans was to cost Western civilization a great economic cost -- in that he succeeded.