Flight MH17 Rush To Judgement - GoFuckYourself.com

Mutt · 08-27-2014, 03:48 PM

The silence from Washington and the Western media whom without any evidence whatsoever all but convicted Russia as the perpetrators behind the downing of Flight MH17 is deafening. Fucking clowns one day will end up starting WWIII over nothing.

I'm not a fan of Putin's but this event opened my eyes how sad things have gotten with this group in D.C. and how far American journalism has declined in the Internet age.

It's a pity the Republicans can't find better candidates because a Hillary Clinton presidency will be no less a gong show than the past two.

Rochard · 08-27-2014, 04:03 PM

I was wondering why we haven't heard any more news about it...

seeric · 08-27-2014, 04:40 PM

Only on GFY do it's posters know for certain that someone did or did not do something. The media should really come here for their factual information.

Mutt · 08-27-2014, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by seeric

Only on GFY do it's posters know for certain that someone did or did not do something. The media should really come here for their factual information.

The media didn't need to come to GFY of anywhere else, they reached their own conclusions without any factual evidence, the same as John Kerry the Secretary of State.

crockett · 08-27-2014, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

The silence from Washington and the Western media whom without any evidence whatsoever all but convicted Russia as the perpetrators behind the downing of Flight MH17 is deafening. Fucking clowns one day will end up starting WWIII over nothing.

I'm not a fan of Putin's but this event opened my eyes how sad things have gotten with this group in D.C. and how far American journalism has declined in the Internet age.

It's a pity the Republicans can't find better candidates because a Hillary Clinton presidency will be no less a gong show than the past two.

Rush to judgement? Are you fucking kidding? The Rebel commander bragged about shooting down a military transport plane and gave the exact location of the wreckage. Then once it was found out it was a civilian airliner he suddenly deleted his post from VK.com. Notice that 2 weeks after the shoot down, the Russian commander that was running the war for the Rebels and bragged about the shoot down was replaced..

The BUK system was photographed at the location where the missile was launched and the same BUK system was once again photographed leaving missing 2 missiles. Added to this Putin went as far as to claim that the bodies at the crash site were dead before the plane was shot down. He fucking publicly said this.

Next the black box data showed that the plane came apart mid air, consistent with an explosion outside of the aircraft.

What more proof do you need? Show me one piece of evidence that shows anyone but the rebels shot it down. Do you think the pilots had some warning lights like in the movies? The pilots didn't know what the fuck hit them until the plane exploded and even if they were still conscious which is next to impossible with a rapid decompression, they still wouldn't know what the fuck happened, other than they were about to die.

Next, the Russians sawed off half of the aircraft nose, making it very likely, that the aircraft was hit in the front, meaning the pilots would of be dead right away.

If all this isn't enough for you, look at the simple fact that the rebels have shot down about 10 Ukraine aircraft in the same area of conflict, using the same BUK systems, given to them by Russia.. Ukraine hasn't shot down a single aircraft so far.

Seriously what more evidence does a sane person need, are you going to jump on the moon landing is a hoax bandwagon next?

vending_machine · 08-27-2014, 04:52 PM

I thought everyone blamed pro-Russian separatists. I didn't think that was the same as blaiming Putin for taking down the airliner.

AdultKing · 08-27-2014, 04:53 PM

I think it depends upon what media you are reading.

Australia and the Dutch mounted a joint operation to retrieve bodies and examine the site.

The Australian Government are assisting Malaysia analyse the black box data.

The Guardian have been reporting on the issue extensively.

There is still a joint Dutch/Australian investigation going on into the sequence of events, these things aren't concluded in weeks, they take months sometimes over a year.

crockett · 08-27-2014, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vending_machine

I thought everyone blamed pro-Russian separatists. I didn't think that was the same as blaiming Putin for taking down the airliner.

The only blame given to Russia was that they supplied the BUK system that shot it down..

theking · 08-27-2014, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Rush to judgement? Are you fucking kidding? The Rebel commander bragged about shooting down a military transport plane and gave the exact location of the wreckage. Then once it was found out it was a civilian airliner he suddenly deleted his post from VK.com. Notice that 2 weeks after the shoot down, the Russian commander that was running the war for the Rebels and bragged about the shoot down was replaced..

The BUK system was photographed at the location where the missile was launched and the same BUK system was once again photographed leaving missing 2 missiles. Added to this Putin went as far as to claim that the bodies at the crash site were dead before the plane was shot down. He fucking publicly said this.

Next the black box data showed that the plane came apart mid air, consistent with an explosion outside of the aircraft.

What more proof do you need? Show me one piece of evidence that shows anyone but the rebels shot it down. Do you think the pilots had some warning lights like in the movies? The pilots didn't know what the fuck hit them until the plane exploded and even if they were still conscious which is next to impossible with a rapid decompression, they still wouldn't know what the fuck happened, other than they were about to die.

Next, the Russians sawed off half of the aircraft nose, making it very likely, that the aircraft was hit in the front, meaning the pilots would of be dead right away.

If all this isn't enough for you, look at the simple fact that the rebels have shot down about 10 Ukraine aircraft in the same area of conflict, using the same BUK systems, given to them by Russia.. Ukraine hasn't shot down a single aircraft so far.

Seriously what more evidence does a sane person need, are you going to jump on the moon landing is a hoax bandwagon next?

Well done.

theking · 08-27-2014, 05:21 PM

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=vending_machine;20207453]I thought everyone blamed pro-Russian separatists. I didn't think that was the same as blaiming Putin for taking down the airliner.

Correct...and Putin was not directly blamed.

woj · 08-27-2014, 06:05 PM

Who else could have possibly shot it down? Russians claim it was Ukraine, but come on now, that's completely retarded...
1. rebels don't have any aircraft
2. the aircraft was flying from west to east and was about to leave Ukrainian airspace

so it makes zero sense that Ukraine could have accidentally shot it down...

wehateporn · 08-27-2014, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

Who else could have possibly shot it down? Russians claim it was Ukraine, but come on now, that's completely retarded...
1. rebels don't have any aircraft
2. the aircraft was flying from west to east and was about to leave Ukrainian airspace

so it makes zero sense that Ukraine could have accidentally shot it down...

Possible Ukraine airforce was using it as a human shield, flying their military jets alongside it when going on bombing campaigns to the East

woj · 08-27-2014, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Possible Ukraine airforce was using it as a human shield, flying their military jets alongside it when going on bombing campaigns to the East

It's possible, but it's not clear how that would change anything? Perhaps Ukraine was using sleazy tactics, but it doesn't change the fact that Russian rebels shot down a commercial airplane with 300 people on it...

Mutt · 08-27-2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

Who else could have possibly shot it down? Russians claim it was Ukraine, but come on now, that's completely retarded...
1. rebels don't have any aircraft
2. the aircraft was flying from west to east and was about to leave Ukrainian airspace

so it makes zero sense that Ukraine could have accidentally shot it down...

The rebels dun goofed, a horrible mistake, the worst thing for their cause would be to shoot down a commercial airliner killing innocent civilians from the Netherlands, Australia et al
No surprise they are trying to cover up their mistake.

The White House seized the opportunity without much evidence to immediately demonize Putin as the guy responsible for the attack on a commercial airliner. They've gotten quiet because they got what they wanted out of the tragedy and don't want to be answering questions that will embarrass them.

dehash · 08-27-2014, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

Who else could have possibly shot it down? Russians claim it was Ukraine, but come on now, that's completely retarded...
1. rebels don't have any aircraft
2. the aircraft was flying from west to east and was about to leave Ukrainian airspace

so it makes zero sense that Ukraine could have accidentally shot it down...

Rebels don't have aircraft, but Ukrainian army had Buks in this area too. Why? And they already shot civilian aircraft too by mistake years ago(buy the way USA did it too during Iraq war).
Also Ukraine hided important evidence. Why would you hide evidence if it will prove rebels did it. They kill thousands their own people during so called ATO so another civilian airplane in error is nothing for them.
So there is still a chance Ukraine did it, by mistake or with evil purpose.

WDF · 08-27-2014, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dehash

So there is still a chance Ukraine did it, by mistake or with evil purpose.

Only if you are spinning Pro-Russian and Pro-Separatist Propaganda.

CAHEK · 08-27-2014, 09:50 PM

I just wondering what kind of instructions Flight MH17 received from Kiev,Ukraine control tower ?

There must be something i'm sure.

_Richard_ · 08-28-2014, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I was wondering why we haven't heard any more news about it...

bunch of countries signed NDA on it..

dehash · 08-28-2014, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WDF

Only if you are spinning Pro-Russian and Pro-Separatist Propaganda.

Sure. Let's hide proof from control tower and blame rebels. And use word "only" more often.

If I would say aliens hit it, you may say so. But when there is one rebel's Buk and are dozen regular army Buks I wouldn't use word "only".
It is easy to say propaganda, then prove anything.

woj · 08-28-2014, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dehash

Sure. Let's hide proof from control tower and blame rebels. And use word "only" more often.

If I would say aliens hit it, you may say so. But when there is one rebel's Buk and are dozen regular army Buks I wouldn't use word "only".
It is easy to say propaganda, then prove anything.

Why would Ukraine be firing SAM missiles? What could have they possibly been targeting?
let me guess, you think a fuck up during a training exercise a decade or 2 ago is somehow similar to this disaster?

Rochard · 08-28-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Rush to judgement? Are you fucking kidding? The Rebel commander bragged about shooting down a military transport plane and gave the exact location of the wreckage. Then once it was found out it was a civilian airliner he suddenly deleted his post from VK.com. Notice that 2 weeks after the shoot down, the Russian commander that was running the war for the Rebels and bragged about the shoot down was replaced..

The BUK system was photographed at the location where the missile was launched and the same BUK system was once again photographed leaving missing 2 missiles. Added to this Putin went as far as to claim that the bodies at the crash site were dead before the plane was shot down. He fucking publicly said this.

Next the black box data showed that the plane came apart mid air, consistent with an explosion outside of the aircraft.

What more proof do you need? Show me one piece of evidence that shows anyone but the rebels shot it down. Do you think the pilots had some warning lights like in the movies? The pilots didn't know what the fuck hit them until the plane exploded and even if they were still conscious which is next to impossible with a rapid decompression, they still wouldn't know what the fuck happened, other than they were about to die.

Next, the Russians sawed off half of the aircraft nose, making it very likely, that the aircraft was hit in the front, meaning the pilots would of be dead right away.

If all this isn't enough for you, look at the simple fact that the rebels have shot down about 10 Ukraine aircraft in the same area of conflict, using the same BUK systems, given to them by Russia.. Ukraine hasn't shot down a single aircraft so far.

Seriously what more evidence does a sane person need, are you going to jump on the moon landing is a hoax bandwagon next?

There is really no doubt for me that this was the Russian rebels, most likely using Russian weapons or perhaps even the Russians themselves firing.

Russia can deny this all they want, but they've caught Russian soldiers in Ukraine so that's that. (I love the Russians saying "they are on vacation". Sure sure.)

DWB · 08-28-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I was wondering why we haven't heard any more news about it...

Why talk about planes shot out of the sky when you suddenly have the biggest boogieman in the history of boogiemen suddenly appear out of thin air?

I can't fathom the "security" that's coming to the USA now. ISIS will get us all!!!!

seeandsee · 08-28-2014, 12:47 PM

Everyone on gfy know real truth, have solid evidence, and dont take sides, yeah right.

08-27-2014, 03:48 PM	#1
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Flight MH17 Rush To Judgement The silence from Washington and the Western media whom without any evidence whatsoever all but convicted Russia as the perpetrators behind the downing of Flight MH17 is deafening. Fucking clowns one day will end up starting WWIII over nothing. I'm not a fan of Putin's but this event opened my eyes how sad things have gotten with this group in D.C. and how far American journalism has declined in the Internet age. It's a pity the Republicans can't find better candidates because a Hillary Clinton presidency will be no less a gong show than the past two. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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08-27-2014, 04:52 PM	#6
vending_machine Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,062	I thought everyone blamed pro-Russian separatists. I didn't think that was the same as blaiming Putin for taking down the airliner.

08-27-2014, 04:53 PM	#7
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	I think it depends upon what media you are reading. Australia and the Dutch mounted a joint operation to retrieve bodies and examine the site. The Australian Government are assisting Malaysia analyse the black box data. The Guardian have been reporting on the issue extensively. There is still a joint Dutch/Australian investigation going on into the sequence of events, these things aren't concluded in weeks, they take months sometimes over a year.