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08-24-2014, 12:10 PM

I long for the good old days of Dictators (torture chambers and all) that would let people live a little and be tolerant of the various religions and sects...this murder-enforced-theocracy shit is the scariest mess we've ever faced.

ISIL poses maybe the worst conundrum for the US that I've seen in my lifetime. They are the ultimate catch 22 - they are a true grass roots movement of the people (crazy religious nuts) but still - the people.

To take them out will mean wholesale massacre of innocent women and children - ISIL is completely intertwined with the civilians and it's impossible to kill them without killing women kids...also many ISIL fighters are as young as 13. You kill one and it helps them recruit 10 new Jihadists. The US may irreversibly damage itself and pit the entire Muslim world against us if (when) we start slaughtering this movement.

Bush/Cheney fought an illegal trumped up war on bogus pretenses and took down Saddam Hussein who led a secular and tolerant government, this left a power vacuum that was ripe for insane murderous groups like ISIL to thrive.

We learned the hard way that taking down secular dictators in this region - and giving the people the chance to govern themselves (they tend to want to go all Islamonuts) is a disastrous policy. As in Egypt, Libya, Syria - you take out a dictator- well worse shit erupts.

They will likely eventually succeed in creating the Caliphate or "Islamic State" - this shit aint goin away anytime soon. Obama will go down in history more than anything as "The Pres when IS came to be" this is truly going to be HIS WAR and it's un-winable.

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08-24-2014, 12:23 PM

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08-24-2014, 12:35 PM

The Egyptian rapper who killed Foley was son of one of Bin Laden's top LT's who is now imprisoned in the US awaiting trial. In general I don't smell "insane jihadists" I smell retribution. Who knows who is behind IS may not even be Arab or entirely Arab. Media loves portraying shit they don't understand as "insane jihad" so they don't to have explain events US and other govs do not want explained.

Bush and Cheney were "insane jihadists" after money and oil. Iraq's current puppet government is in a shambles and Israel is being bombed from the north and the south. With China giving the finger to the US in so many ways are we not seeing the beginning of ww3?

It may not be a German Blitzkrieg but I see it as a pot on the stove that is simmering and the temperature is rising. One day the stew will hit the ceiling, imho.

Long a western puppet, Jordan could be next.

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08-24-2014, 12:35 PM

Well this is 20/20 hindsight - I know the motivation for the war on Iraq was far from altruistic but the US at the same time did want to nation build there, help the Iraqis govern themselves in some form of democratic style religious state. The American public wailed to get US troops out of there, it was way to soon to leave, and now look what the Iraqis are dealing with.

ISIL isn't the people, they are sick twisted fucks masquerading as Muslims.

The scary part is they're taking on a hip/cool image the way LA gangs did 30 years ago and there are tons of angry alienated young males in Western countries joining their movement.

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08-24-2014, 12:56 PM

never mind Jordan, the prize is Saudi

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08-24-2014, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by NEW XTC

this murder-enforced-theocracy shit is the scariest mess we've ever faced.

LOL your history is as dumb as your bitcoin threads. Maybe if you studied in school you would know the cuban missile crisis, the attack on pearl harbor, the US civil war, & the entire chapter of US history from 1770 - 1813 was a massive clusterfuck, far more threatening to the US public than a bunch of dumbasses in the desert who've killed exactly 1 american.

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08-24-2014, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by NewNick

never mind Jordan, the prize is Saudi

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08-24-2014, 03:36 PM

Forget invasions and nation building that hasn't worked out to well.

If a nation or some group is openly hostile, threatening with real violence, not just shooting their mouths off: Take them out with prejudice -- fast and clean.

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08-24-2014, 03:52 PM

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LOL .... far more threatening to the US public than a bunch of dumbasses in the desert who've killed exactly 1 american. ...

It is not one American journalist at issue -- IS (ISIL ISIS) has been mass murdering their adversities, not tantamount to a genocide yet, but heading that way, in that that direction. e.g.; stop the genocide of the Yazdi minority by IS (ISIL ISIS). Another Rwanda will not help US standing in the world.

There are serious tactical issues in fighting a guerilla war with terrorists. They are not an easily identifiable army. But with "death squads" comprised of locals on the ground calling in drone attacks, we could off them like killing rats -- and that is what they are -- vermin.

This is the only way to stop these assholes. Do you really believe they will be satisfied with domination of a 'sand lot'?

There is no need to carpet bomb or use indiscriminate measures. They are starting to shit bricks and murder Americans because the US air strikes have targeted a few light weapons vehicles -- they ain't seen shit yet.

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08-24-2014, 04:07 PM

An American journalist kidnapped nearly two years ago has been freed in Syria following Qatari mediation and handed over to UN peacekeepers in the Golan Heights.

Peter Theo Curtis was handed over to UN peacekeepers in the village of al-Rafid, Quneitra, on Sunday. He has since been turned over to representatives from the US government after undergoing medical check-up, the UN said.

Curtis' family thanked both the governments of the US and Qatar, as well as others who helped negotiate his release.

According to a statement from his family, Curtis was captured in October 2012 and was reportedly held by the al-Nusra Front or by splinter groups allied with the al-Qaeda-affiliated group.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middle...444444921.html

See, they are already shittin' bricks without a shot fired - go in for the kill and be done with them.
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08-24-2014, 04:40 PM

The simple solution.. Seal them off let them destroy them selfs.. How many Arab car companies are there? How many Arab aircraft manufactures are there? They don't create shit hell they don't even create their own military supplies.. It's all from the West, Russia and China, Japan.. Ect..ect.. Arabs don't create shit but bombs and misery.

Stop selling them cars, stop selling them airliners and guns, cut the internet, tele lines and just let the whole relation go black. Check back in 50 years and see if they made any progress.. If not wait 100 years the next time.. At 200 years of no progress just nuke the entire region and be done with it.

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08-24-2014, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

It is not one American journalist at issue -- IS (ISIL ISIS) has been mass murdering their adversities, not tantamount to a genocide yet, but heading that way, in that that direction. e.g.; stop the genocide of the Yazdi minority by IS (ISIL ISIS). Another Rwanda will not help US standing in the world.

There are serious tactical issues in fighting a guerilla war with terrorists. They are not an easily identifiable army. But with "death squads" comprised of locals on the ground calling in drone attacks, we could off them like killing rats -- and that is what they are -- vermin.

This is the only way to stop these assholes. Do you really believe they will be satisfied with domination of a 'sand lot'?

There is no need to carpet bomb or use indiscriminate measures. They are starting to shit bricks and murder Americans because the US air strikes have targeted a few light weapons vehicles -- they ain't seen shit yet.

come on man. they are nothing more than the Islamic KKK. They only look powerful because syria & Iraq are utterly lawless. You wont see ISIL invading Turkey, Iran or Saudi Arabia guaranteed. They are like dumbass US militias only there is no FBI to fuck them up over there.

as far as im concerned, this is their heyday, & soon it will be all downhill, because they are sending out enough alarm bells that the pentagon has them in their sights now. It will take time, but the tide will soon turn on ISIL.
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08-24-2014, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by NEW XTC

I long for the good old days of Dictators (torture chambers and all) that would let people live a little and be tolerant of the various religions and sects...this murder-enforced-theocracy shit is the scariest mess we've ever faced.

ISIL poses maybe the worst conundrum for the US that I've seen in my lifetime. They are the ultimate catch 22 - they are a true grass roots movement of the people (crazy religious nuts) but still - the people.

To take them out will mean wholesale massacre of innocent women and children - ISIL is completely intertwined with the civilians and it's impossible to kill them without killing women kids...also many ISIL fighters are as young as 13. You kill one and it helps them recruit 10 new Jihadists. The US may irreversibly damage itself and pit the entire Muslim world against us if (when) we start slaughtering this movement.

Bush/Cheney fought an illegal trumped up war on bogus pretenses and took down Saddam Hussein who led a secular and tolerant government, this left a power vacuum that was ripe for insane murderous groups like ISIL to thrive.

We learned the hard way that taking down secular dictators in this region - and giving the people the chance to govern themselves (they tend to want to go all Islamonuts) is a disastrous policy. As in Egypt, Libya, Syria - you take out a dictator- well worse shit erupts.

They will likely eventually succeed in creating the Caliphate or "Islamic State" - this shit aint goin away anytime soon. Obama will go down in history more than anything as "The Pres when IS came to be" this is truly going to be HIS WAR and it's un-winable.

You sound like a sympathetic recruiter.

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08-24-2014, 09:26 PM

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You sound like a sympathetic recruiter.

Go fuck yourself.

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08-25-2014, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by crockett

The simple solution.. Seal them off let them destroy them selfs.. How many Arab car companies are there? How many Arab aircraft manufactures are there? They don't create shit hell they don't even create their own military supplies.. It's all from the West, Russia and China, Japan.. Ect..ect.. Arabs don't create shit but bombs and misery.

Stop selling them cars, stop selling them airliners and guns, cut the internet, tele lines and just let the whole relation go black. Check back in 50 years and see if they made any progress.. If not wait 100 years the next time.. At 200 years of no progress just nuke the entire region and be done with it.

brilliant idea i love it i would do this.

problem could be to actually force all interested parties (china, russia, us) to cooperate in this isolation.

beside this, there's oil factor problem - if we will block them totally how can we get oil from them.

and for the last - military manufactors need to sell their products and it's easiest to sell where there's war.

if this 3 points could be passed i would really love to see your idea to happend, sounds perfect solution to me.

oh, and think what would happend if in such isolated system some plaque/disease will hit? with no support from western medicine that could be end for islam, one fucked up religion less in the world...

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