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slapass 08-20-2014 11:47 PM

Has anyone wandered why the black community has leaders that are different then the community at large? I lived in a city with a black mayor and now a black president and I assume/assumed they were our leaders regardless of my skin color.

The news media is promoting racism to the extreme. I just saw an article saying why Ferguson looked like the inner city. Obviously they meant black. We need to quit trying to make them seperate and maybe this whole thing would feel less like us versus them all of the time.

blackmonsters 08-21-2014 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 20199095)
Um... there is a long break, because you left out a few.

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editeur 08-21-2014 06:17 AM

Americans, enlighten me pls if you can
What is the procedure to become a major of a town such as Ferguson? Can anyone promote himself and win such chair without approval of the state governor or other authorities, or do the same without much money? How all that stuff happens?
Can major replace police chief, rank and file at his will? Who appoints police chiefs in such towns?

I ask this becaus I heard the majority of this town is black, so maybe they could elect their major and show the whiteys who's the boss. is this possible?

iwantchixx 08-21-2014 06:54 AM

I dont understand why the rioting n shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ta2-7QJM78

"shoot me shoot me shoot me"

then walks towards the cops and ignoring their orders...

Same thing happened here a few years ago.. everyone crying police brutality, he was ignoring the cops and lunging at them.

iwantchixx 08-21-2014 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20199317)
Has anyone wandered why the black community has leaders that are different then the community at large? I lived in a city with a black mayor and now a black president and I assume/assumed they were our leaders regardless of my skin color.

The news media is promoting racism to the extreme. I just saw an article saying why Ferguson looked like the inner city. Obviously they meant black. We need to quit trying to make them seperate and maybe this whole thing would feel less like us versus them all of the time.

GFY really needs a like button...

NewNick 08-21-2014 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 20199586)
I dont understand why the rioting n shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ta2-7QJM78

"shoot me shoot me shoot me"

then walks towards the cops and ignoring their orders...

Same thing happened here a few years ago.. everyone crying police brutality, he was ignoring the cops and lunging at them.


Wow that video is appalling.

Watch it carefully. They shoot him 9 times.

They shoot him 3 times when he is on the floor.

So they shoot him 9 times and then they hand-cuff him. Un real.

I do not see why lethal force was the only solution.

There is no reason for that man to be dead.

Watch it and tell me I am wrong.

DAMNMAN 08-21-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by seeric (Post 20197793)
it's the government that is the problem here, not "white" people. If people can't see the downfall of the usa coming, then i have swamp land to sell people in florida.

Time to get out of this country. People have lost their minds. They don't even know what is real any more.

this!!! True!!!

Tom_PM 08-21-2014 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 20199618)
Wow that video is appalling.

Watch it carefully. They shoot him 9 times.

They shoot him 3 times when he is on the floor.

So they shoot him 9 times and then they hand-cuff him. Un real.

I do not see why lethal force was the only solution.

There is no reason for that man to be dead.

Watch it and tell me I am wrong.

You're not wrong. The first comment I made to a friend about this is why did they have to kill him outright? No taser guns? No nothing besides deadly overwhelming force? Guess not.

iwantchixx 08-21-2014 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 20199618)
Wow that video is appalling.

Watch it carefully. They shoot him 9 times.

They shoot him 3 times when he is on the floor.

So they shoot him 9 times and then they hand-cuff him. Un real.

I do not see why lethal force was the only solution.

There is no reason for that man to be dead.

Watch it and tell me I am wrong.

He disobeyed orders at gunpoint, walked towards them threateningly and kept going on "shoot me". Pretty sure that any police training would say "shoot until suspect is no longer a threat". Sure, that many shots are not needed but any human being in that position might unload their clip instead of shooting once, polling situation then deciding if more shots are needed. Handcuffing is a formality...

Sucks what happened to dude but he asked for it with his behavior. You don't walk around puffing chest and instigating police action then expect them to hand ya roses lol

If he was white, nobody would care. If the cops were black, nobody would care...

Bladewire 08-21-2014 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20199715)
The first comment I made to a friend about this is why did they have to kill him outright? No taser guns? No nothing besides deadly overwhelming force? Guess not.

What the cops did was wrong.

Understanding the local culture is important. The cops don't treat you the same in Galveston, Texas as they do in Beverly Hills, California.

The people don't react to cops the same way in Malibu as they do in Ferguson :2 cents:




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Tom_PM 08-21-2014 08:28 AM

Oh what a load of horse shit. Their colors don't matter. The fact that they had NO OPTION AVAILABLE but deadly force is at issue.

Tom_PM 08-21-2014 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20199728)
What the cops did was wrong.

Understanding the local culture is important. The cops don't treat you the same in Galveston, Texas as they do in Beverly Hills, California.

The people don't react to cops the same way in Malibu as they do in Ferguson :2 cents:




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Yeah I'm just saying whatever happened to those taser guns that you could fire from a distance? Nobody has one I guess.. nor any other option besides bullets. Sad.

Bladewire 08-21-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20199735)
Yeah I'm just saying whatever happened to those taser guns that you could fire from a distance? Nobody has one I guess.. nor any other option besides bullets. Sad.

I agree. Stay in Australia or the UK for a while and see the role of cops in those countries, then come back to America and you quickly realize we have a huge problem with the amount of force and authority we grant police today.

It took 1 minute for backup to arrive after shots fired in that video, it's not like they didn't have the time, or resources, for a humane resolution to the conflict with the man they decided to kill. Those cops were angry and lazy :2 cents:

NewNick 08-21-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20199752)
I agree. Stay in Australia or the UK for a while and see the role of cops in those countries, then come back to America and you quickly realize we have a huge problem with the amount of force and authority we grant police today.

It took 1 minute for backup to arrive after shots fired in that video, it's not like they didn't have the time, or resources, for a humane resolution to the conflict with the man they decided to kill. Those cops were angry and lazy :2 cents:


Angry, Lazy, scared, and racist.

They could have acted differently.

They did not have to kill him without even speaking to him.

NewNick 08-21-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 20199721)
He disobeyed orders at gunpoint, walked towards them threateningly and kept going on "shoot me". Pretty sure that any police training would say "shoot until suspect is no longer a threat". Sure, that many shots are not needed but any human being in that position might unload their clip instead of shooting once, polling situation then deciding if more shots are needed. Handcuffing is a formality...

Sucks what happened to dude but he asked for it with his behavior. You don't walk around puffing chest and instigating police action then expect them to hand ya roses lol

If he was white, nobody would care. If the cops were black, nobody would care...

Jesus, he walked towards them. So they killed him.

And you think that is ok ?

They did not warn him, they did not speak to him, they did not use a taser, they did not fire a warning shot.

They shot him 9 times.

3 times when he was already on the floor.

Everything on video.

and this is Ok ?

eipstudios 08-21-2014 01:42 PM

Though Americans commonly believe law enforcement?s role in society is to protect them and ensure peace and stability within the community, the sad reality is that police departments are often more focused on enforcing laws, making arrests and issuing citations. As a result of this as well as an increase in militarized policing techniques, Americans are eight times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist, estimates a Washington?s Blog report based on official statistical data.

Though the U.S. government does not have a database collecting information about the total number of police involved shootings each year, it?s estimated that between 500 and 1,000 Americans are killed by police officers each year. Since 9/11, about 5,000 Americans have been killed by U.S. police officers, which is almost equivalent to the number of U.S. soldiers who have been killed in the line of duty in Iraq.

Because individual police departments are not required to submit information regarding the use of deadly force by its officers, some bloggers have taken it upon themselves to aggregate that data. Wikipedia also has a list of ?justifiable homicides? in the U.S., which was created by documenting publicized deaths.

Racist policing

A big element in the police killings, Prysner says, is racism. ?A big majority of those killed are Latinos and Black people,? while the police officers are mostly White, he said. ?It?s a badge of honor to shoot gang members so [the police] go out and shoot people who look like gang members,? Prysner argued, giving the example of 34-year-old Rigoberto Arceo, who was killed by police on May 11.

According to a report from the Los Angeles Times, Arceo, who was a biomedical technician at St. Francis Medical Center, was shot and killed after getting out of his sister?s van. The Los Angeles County Sheriff?s Department says Arceo ?advanced on the deputy and attempted to take the deputy?s gun.? However, Arceo?s sister and 53-year-old Armando Garcia ? who was barbecuing in his yard when the incident happened ? say that Arceo had his hands above his head the entire time.

Prysner is not alone in his assertion that race is a major factor in officer-related violence. This past May, a study from the the Malcolm X Grassroots Movement, an anti-racist activist organization, found that police officers, security guards or self-appointed vigilantes killed at least 313 Black people in 2012 ? meaning one Black person was killed in the U.S. by law enforcement roughly every 28 hours.

Prysner said the relationship between police departments and community members needs to change and that when police shoot an unarmed person with their arms in the air over their head, the officer should be punished.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/us-poli...ce-911/172029/
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eipstudios 08-21-2014 01:43 PM

In Oakland, California, the NAACP reported that out of 45 officer-involved shootings in the city between 2004 and 2008, 37 of those shot were black. None were white. One-third of the shootings resulted in fatalities. Although weapons were not found in 40 percent of cases, the NAACP found, no officers were charged. (These numbers don't include 22-year-old Oscar Grant, who was shot and killed by a transit authority officer at the Fruitvale BART station on New Year's Day of 2009.)

The New York City Police Department has reported similar trends in its firearms discharge report, which shows that more black people have been shot by NYPD officers between 2000 and 2011 than have Hispanics or whites.

Between 2003 and 2009, the DOJ reported that 4,813 people died while in the process of arrest or in the custody of law enforcement. These include people who died before an officer physically placed him or her under custody or arrest. This data, known as arrest-related deaths, doesn't reveal a significant discrepancy between whites, blacks, or hispanics. It also doesn't specify how many victims were unarmed. According to the FBI, which has tracked justifiable homicides up to 2012, 410 felons died at the hands of a law enforcement officer in the line of duty.*


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