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MPGdevil 08-18-2014 07:20 AM

Hey, thanks for protecting our planet for millions of years.
We would like to take the opportunity to express our appreciation by turning you into our personal toilet.

CaptainHowdy 08-18-2014 07:25 AM

We've already sent some white trash over there and it came back ...

PaperstreetWinston 08-18-2014 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20195703)
great idea - one rocket blowing up and blowing nuclear waste over a 1000 miles radius - I applaud your ingenuity

my first thought exact :helpme

candyflip 08-18-2014 07:56 AM

Why bother with the moon, just blast it in to space.

Rikki-Nyx 08-18-2014 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20196004)
Stephen Hawking speculates we have 100 years or less on this planet so...not so dumb to me.

That's the dumbest thing I've heard and he's supposed to be some space genius?

wehateporn 08-18-2014 08:02 AM


simon says 08-18-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20195888)
That gave me a solid business idea:

"Send your in-laws to the Moon. One way tickets available only!" - I predict super high demand

That means your wife will send her in-laws to the moon too. Shrewd business plan.

aka123 08-18-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20196188)

No music? Well, that's really the only question, Icke really got it otherwise.

pimpmaster9000 08-18-2014 09:54 AM

or why not send it back in time :1orglaugh

does it not seem most cost effective that the waste be re-cycled or treated or plain stored by private companies for tons of cash instead of seeking a solution in space?

2MuchMark 08-18-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bourke (Post 20195930)
It's not. Microwave is good for sending signal modulation (data) but pretty much useless for transmission of power. Then you have the non synchronous orbit issues...
There is so much unused space here that could be put to good use for solar farms which would require far, far less investment and risk as well as not include a insane distance to try and transmit power, not to mention a lack of a stable, viable way to transmit it. Drive around any industrial area and there are HUGE factories the size of several sporting fields. With rooftop space that is completely unused. Spaces high enough to be above treelines, in areas near where 90% of power consumption is needed, near the right kind of infrastructure to get the power where it needs to go, owned by companies who would be quite happy to see their unused space put to a use that earns them some extra money.

Of course it makes more sense to setup Solar on earth, but the OP's subject is moon based, so...

But actually yes you can use Microwaves to transmit energy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_power and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power

2MuchMark 08-18-2014 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20196188)

Why weren't people in the audience stoning this guy? It's bad enough that this guy is so clueless, but he's spreading his own ignorance to others, and probably charging people to hear it too.

aka123 08-18-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20196380)
Why weren't people in the audience stoning this guy? It's bad enough that this guy is so clueless, but he's spreading his own ignorance to others, and probably charging people to hear it too.

Stoning? Are we jihadists or something? Some rotten eggs and tomatoes would be so much better alternative.

But really, probably the audience had paid for tickets and were listening fascinated.

wehateporn 08-18-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20196380)
Why weren't people in the audience stoning this guy? It's bad enough that this guy is so clueless, but he's spreading his own ignorance to others, and probably charging people to hear it too.

How would you counter his arguments?

CDSmith 08-18-2014 11:18 AM

Last night the moon hit my eye like a big pizza pie. Deeno was right, it truly was amore. If it had been riddled with radioactive garbage that would have really sucked.

Don't fuck with the moon.

aka123 08-18-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20196445)
How would you counter his arguments?

How about the studies about the Moon? And common sense, "It isn't real" is similar to "It's made of cheese".

Tom_PM 08-18-2014 11:42 AM

Would he have us believe that we already know all that is knowable and therefore the only explanation is a hollow moon?

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...Ilovetrash.png

atom 08-18-2014 11:52 AM

Threads like these are what keep me coming back to GFY....

wehateporn 08-18-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20196463)
How about the studies about the Moon? And common sense, "It isn't real" is similar to "It's made of cheese".

What studies? They are just making guesses, but they don't like guessing that it's aliens for some reason.

wehateporn 08-18-2014 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20196483)
Would he have us believe that we already know all that is knowable and therefore the only explanation is a hollow moon?

He says it's an ancient spacecraft, and yes, it is hollow

aka123 08-18-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20196506)
What studies? They are just making guesses, but they don't like guessing that it's aliens for some reason.

What? "What studies?" LOL.

Studies about the Moon. You know, examining it from here, it's effects on Earth (like tide), and not to mention the evidence from the Moon itself and studies done there, like Moon rocks and so on. Studies, I can say it with only 4 languages, but I think you understand it best when I say it with English: "studies".

2MuchMark 08-18-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20196445)
How would you counter his arguments?

I'd hit him over the head with a couple of books about Science & Physics and then let Buzz Aldrin lay into him about what a disservice he is doing to mankind. Then I'd remind him about all the rock samples collected by the Apollo program and missions 11 and 17 (And how they were found to be 600,000,000 years older than any rocks on earth, and how we have been to the moon 9 times already. You can bounce a laser off the moon like they did on Big Bang Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_L...ing_experiment).

Also anyone with decent algebra skills can easily calculate the mass of the moon using basic information. On Jul 19 1969 Apollo 11 orbited the moon for 2 hours at 1737 km from the lunar center.

When the orbiter was in orbit, it balances the gravity of the moon against its outward centrifugal force. This is why it didn't fall into the moon, and why things like satellites stay in orbit.

Knowing this information you can calculate the total mass of the moon. The solution and exactly how to do it can be found here : http://spacemath.gsfc.nasa.gov/moon/5Page19.pdf

(it's 7.34767309 × 10 to the 22 power kilograms by the way).

This guy is nothing more than a fool who just cannot comprehend that reality is what it is.

PR_Glen 08-18-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20196539)
What? "What studies?" LOL.

Studies about the Moon. You know, examining it from here, it's effects on Earth (like tide), and not to mention the evidence from the Moon itself and studies done there, like Moon rocks and so on. Studies, I can say it with only 4 languages, but I think you understand it best when I say it with English: "studies".

there is no argument, this is how he spends his afternoons when his mom goes to bridge and is off the internet...

NewOldPlayer 08-18-2014 06:56 PM

I think he watched the Star Trek episode: "For the World is Hollow and I have Touched the Sky" and became a little obsessed.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...1W3xDDIIOP0mcB

But at least McCoy got some space punany that time.

http://www.dangermouse.net/blog/imag...chedTheSky.jpg

Matt 26z 08-18-2014 07:03 PM

Nuclear waste will eventually be a form of fuel.

magicmike 08-18-2014 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 20195705)
Why not fire the stuff in to the sun?

That's basically impossible with our technology, the cost would be absurd.

"The speed a rocket needs to attain to reach the Sun: about 30 km/s, because it needs to cancel out Earth's orbital speed - so it is about twice as hard, in terms of speed needed, to reach the Sun as it is to reach the outer planets (about 4 times as hard in energy terms, because energy is proportional to speed squared)"

pornmasta 08-18-2014 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 20196851)
But at least McCoy got some space punany that time.

http://www.dangermouse.net/blog/imag...chedTheSky.jpg

it's a trap

Bourke 08-19-2014 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20196376)
Of course it makes more sense to setup Solar on earth, but the OP's subject is moon based, so...

But actually yes you can use Microwaves to transmit energy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_power and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power

Sorry Mark, that stuff is bogus. I spent several years working in microwave telecommunications. Large scale, high power, long distance transmission of power via microwave does not work. Even if between two fixed points on the same continent...
If it worked then we would be powering homes with it. Or at least using it to send power to more remote towns and cities rather than laying millions of kilometers of very expensive copper.


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