Upward Mobility Dead in the U.S.?

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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635

    #1

    Upward Mobility Dead in the U.S.?

    To find the answer, the Hopkins researchers undertook a massive study. They followed nearly 800 kids in Baltimore ? from first grade until their late-20s.

    They found that a child's fate is in many ways fixed at birth ? determined by family strength and the parents' financial status.

    The kids who got a better start ? because their parents were married and working ? ended up better off. Most of the poor kids from single-parent families stayed poor.

    Just 33 children ? out of nearly 800 ? moved from the low-income to high-income bracket. And a similarly small number born into low-income families had college degrees by the time they turned 28.
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  • slapass
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Nov 2002
    • 14625

    #2
    But what percent of the population is in the high income bracket? If I took 800 random people how many would be high income? This seems to prove the opposite as 4% got to the top.

    Edit ok I read it... nevermind hahahaha

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    • MaDalton
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      • Feb 2004
      • 39861

      #3
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      • slapass
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        • Nov 2002
        • 14625

        #4
        The dumb thing is they wasted the article on two data points to create a human side and skipped any hard data.

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        • editeur
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          • Nov 2013
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          #5
          33 children — out of nearly 800 — moved from the low-income to high-income bracket.
          4% is good enough. I wonder if there any stable country where poor ones have 4% chance to get rich.
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          • wehateporn
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            • Apr 2007
            • 27176

            #6
            Long gone are the days when 12Clicks could simply startup a TGP
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            • johnnyloadproductions
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              • Oct 2008
              • 3611

              #7
              Originally posted by Barefootsies
              You bucked this trend though, didn't you?

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              • Barefootsies
                Choice is an Illusion
                • Feb 2005
                • 42635

                #8
                Originally posted by slapass
                The dumb thing is they wasted the article on two data points to create a human side and skipped any hard data.
                That seems to be how many of these articles are written now-a-days. Yahoo has to be one of the worst, especially when it comes to football coverage. Somehow they manage to work in Tebow, among many other things, that have absolutely no relevance to the article.

                Anyway, it was an interesting read on upward mobiltiy, at least in regard to their narrow focus. A more interesting one would be the immigrants and gas stations, convenience and grocery stores. Those who come here as legal immigrants, and their ability to achieve the "American Dream".

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                • Barefootsies
                  Choice is an Illusion
                  • Feb 2005
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by wehateporn
                  Long gone are the days when 12Clicks could simply startup a TGP
                  I doubt 12clicks is hurting for cash, and appears to be doing just fine.
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                  • Barefootsies
                    Choice is an Illusion
                    • Feb 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by editeur
                    4% is good enough. I wonder if there any stable country where poor ones have 4% chance to get rich.
                    That is an interesting thought. The U.S. compared to other countries and their upward mobility.
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                    • Bladewire
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                      • Aug 2003
                      • 56228

                      #11
                      Originally posted by editeur
                      I wonder if there any stable country where poor ones have 4% chance to get rich.
                      I depends on the masses accessibility to cheap video games, drugs and porn




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                      • Robbie
                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 20960

                        #12
                        The findings of this research report remind me of the character on the hotels.com commercials on television: Captain Obvious! lol

                        Next up...these researchers will do a study that will find that people who don't have any food are generally more hungry than people who do.
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                        • Barefootsies
                          Choice is an Illusion
                          • Feb 2005
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Robbie
                          Next up...these researchers will do a study that will find that people who don't have any food are generally more hungry than people who do.
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                          • ilnjscb
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                            • Jun 2009
                            • 8972

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Robbie
                            The findings of this research report remind me of the character on the hotels.com commercials on television: Captain Obvious! lol

                            Next up...these researchers will do a study that will find that people who don't have any food are generally more hungry than people who do.
                            I think they are intending to dispel the myth that America is the land of opportunity, that any given smart, hardworking poor person, or at least a large percentage of them, can "rise to the top".

                            Cue one of the 4%, who, though smart and hard-working, doesn't understand statistics:

                            "I was poor blablbabla and now I'm rich so that isn't right!"

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                            • Jman
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 22837

                              #15
                              Guns will be easily accessible to the poor kids so they can start making their monies ;)
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