BP Oil Spill.

[Scott McD]

I remember how distressing i found this clip when it happened:




(Been going through old vids on my youtube account FYI)

[aka123]

The video itself is not very distressing, excluding sounds. The sounds reminded me about this video.




More distressing is to see the devastation caused by the oil spill.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by aka123

How THE FUCK can this even be debated? Those poor birds need to be cleaned and cured of all of the shit those fucking bastards at BP did to them. Not only should BP pay to have it done, but the pieces of shit CEO's should be helping out themselves to clean these poor creatures. And if a bird dies, THEY should be the one to bury the poor thing. Fuck BP and every other piece of shit oil company that spills oil and denies responsibility.

[Scott McD]

The days with it spilling out just seemed to be never ending. 24hrs day and night spilling that shit out! And then the denial after it. And the devastation it caused...

[dyna mo]

Birds die. Omfg.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Birds die. Omfg.

Enough omg, but the devastation of whole ecosystems is the main problem. But you cannot see it while standing on the shore, but the dead birds you can see.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

Enough omg, but the devastation of whole ecosystems is the main problem. But you cannot see it while standing on the shore, but the dead birds you can see.

Fill us all in, what entire ecosystem was devasted?

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Fill us all in, what entire ecosystem was devasted?

Clearly you have no ecosystem in your vacant skull. Perhaps you should pump it full of something other than shit.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Clearly you have no ecosystem in your vacant skull. Perhaps you should pump it full of something other than shit.

I simply asked a question. Too bad you are completely ignorant, otherwise it would be simple to provide just 1 link proofing an entire ecosystem was destroyed, and feel the need to act like a 3rd grader.
But the fact is you are ignorant and thats why you jump into convos you are not being addressed and lash out.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Fill us all in, what entire ecosystem was devasted?

Coastal ecosystems around the spill area and in general to where the oil drifted, where the oil hit hardest.

Oh, you wanted some links:

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...o-bp-oil-spill

"Dead and dying deep sea corals were discovered seven miles from the Deepwater Horizon well." (coral reefs are considered as ecosystems)

https://www.nwf.org/What-We-Do/Prote...-Wildlife.aspx

"The team discovered a colony of hard coral with subtle impacts but as they kept moving they eventually found a large community of dead and dying coral.

“From the moment we arrived it was evident that these corals were severely impacted by something. This is the first evidence of an impact in the deep sea to animal communities,” said Fisher. Many of the colonies appeared to be dead with little or no living tissue. There was also a notable lack of colonization by other marine life and that many of the brittle stars appeared to be very discolored and immobile."

http://blog.nwf.org/2010/11/coral-da...mpacts-linger/

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

Coastal ecosystems around the spil area and in general to where the oil drifted, where the oil hit hardest.

Oh, you wanted some links:

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...o-bp-oil-spill

"Dead and dying deep sea corals were discovered seven miles from the Deepwater Horizon well."

https://www.nwf.org/What-We-Do/Prote...-Wildlife.aspx

I am aware of all of that. None of those are ecosystems. And none of those were destroyed. Which ecosystem was destroyed?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I am aware of all of that. None of those are ecosystems. And none of those were destroyed. Which ecosystem was destroyed?

Coral reefs are ecosystems as well as many other coastal environments. "Destroyed" means that most of the ecosystem's living creatures have died or are dying. But since ecosystems are not some sealed bubbles, there is always some life.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

Coral reefs are ecosystems as well as many other coastal environments. "Destroyed" means that most of the ecosystem's living creatures have died or are dying. But since ecosystems are not some sealed bubbles, there is always some life.

Thats right coral REEFS are ecosystems. The coral is simply part of the reef system. And yes there is coral damage but thats not the same as saying entire ecosystems were destroyed. No one knows that at this time.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Thats right coral REEFS are ecosystems. The coral is simply part of the reef system. And yes there is coral damage but thats not the same as saying entire ecosystems were destroyed. No one knows that at this time.

Already posted information. And corals form the basis of coral reef's ecosystem, no corals, no coral reefs. Quite simple, as there are no forest without trees.


?From the moment we arrived it was evident that these corals were severely impacted by something. This is the first evidence of an impact in the deep sea to animal communities,? said Fisher. Many of the colonies appeared to be dead with little or no living tissue. There was also a notable lack of colonization by other marine life and that many of the brittle stars appeared to be very discolored and immobile."

http://blog.nwf.org/2010/11/coral-da...mpacts-linger/

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

Already posted information. And corals form the basis of coral reef's ecosystem, no corals, no coral reefs. Quite simple, as there are no forest without trees.


?From the moment we arrived it was evident that these corals were severely impacted by something. This is the first evidence of an impact in the deep sea to animal communities,? said Fisher. Many of the colonies appeared to be dead with little or no living tissue. There was also a notable lack of colonization by other marine life and that many of the brittle stars appeared to be very discolored and immobile."

http://blog.nwf.org/2010/11/coral-da...mpacts-linger/

Yes. Again coral is part of an ecosystem known as coral reef. All research certainly points to a % of gulf coral being "impacted". But there is a vast difference between impact coraland destroyed ecosystem.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Yes. Again coral is part of an ecosystem known as coral reef. All research certainly points to a % of gulf coral being "impacted". But there is a vast difference between impact coraland destroyed ecosystem.

Well, dead corals and all the other living creatures either dead or gone elsewhere, is destruction in my books, since that particular ecosystem is gone for time being.

Enough of this tonight, I am now focusing to drinking. It's fucking late in here.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

Well, dead corals and all the other living creatures either dead or gone elsewhere, is destruction in my books, since that particular ecosystem is gone for time being.

Enough of this tonight, I am now focusing to drinking. It's fucking late in here.

Ima couple beers on already. Look, heres the thing.....i prefer serious topics like this are not overexaggerated. So i tend to try and bring it back to more of whats known. We know it was the worst enviromental accident on USA by a significant margin. Thats enough in itself right?

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Ima couple beers on already. Look, heres the thing.....i prefer serious topics like this are not overexaggerated. So i tend to try and bring it back to more of whats known. We know it was the worst enviromental accident on USA by a significant margin. Thats enough in itself right?

Since I am not from USA, or from that continent altogether, I don't really care where it stands in USA standards, just what happened to the ecosystem. But now back to drinking.

[Scott McD]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Ima couple beers on already. Look, heres the thing.....i prefer serious topics like this are not overexaggerated. So i tend to try and bring it back to more of whats known. We know it was the worst enviromental accident on USA by a significant margin. Thats enough in itself right?

Then why was your first reply "birds die omfg" ???

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by **********

How THE FUCK can this even be debated? Those poor birds need to be cleaned and cured of all of the shit those fucking bastards at BP did to them. Not only should BP pay to have it done, but the pieces of shit CEO's should be helping out themselves to clean these poor creatures. And if a bird dies, THEY should be the one to bury the poor thing. Fuck BP and every other piece of shit oil company that spills oil and denies responsibility.

Jesus, take a chill pill Mark!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Then why was your first reply "birds die omfg" ???

Because birds dying 5 years ago is not really something that i am going to get upset about nor is it really anything to point to as some sort of impetus of change. Heres a fact: very few people give a shit about some birds. Even fewer give a shit enough about Birds to stop using oil. Thats ********** mentality.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Birds die. Omfg.

Over 8,000 animals (birds, turtles, mammals) were reported dead just 6 months after the spill, including many that were already on the endangered species list. You really don't give a shit about this?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Dvae

Jesus, take a chill pill Mark!

Kinda hard to... I love animals and seeing pictures and videos of animals soaked in oil really get to me. Companies like BP can throw money at a problem like this but without actually understanding the damage caused. I forget his name now, but the big cheese of BP was photographed yachting and enjoying himself weeks after the oil spill started, and many weeks before it was finally stopped. I bet you $100 that that piece of shit dismissed all of the dead animals and damage he caused, exactly like Dyna Mo did: Completely fucking oblivious, callus, selfish, and unsympathetic because they simply can't be bothered.

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by **********

Over 8,000 animals (birds, turtles, mammals) were reported dead just 6 months after the spill, including many that were already on the endangered species list. You really don't give a shit about this?

He's probably a brainless Christian. They think all animals here are just to be shit on after being given to them by god.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Because birds dying 5 years ago is not really something that i am going to get upset about nor is it really anything to point to as some sort of impetus of change. Heres a fact: very few people give a shit about some birds. Even fewer give a shit enough about Birds to stop using oil. Thats ********** mentality.

Fuck you you fucking asshole. You're a real fucking piece of work.

Listen to me asshole: The birds and the Animals that died because of BP are the first to go. If you think the damage is all cleaned up, you're fucking wrong. All of the people who get their livelihood from the Gulf are also affected. Google it you motherfucker: Food and tourism is way down. People lost their businesses and BP couldn't give a fuck, just like they couldn't give a fuck about the animals, and just like you can't give a fuck either. Now people are starting to get sick. VERY sick. Fuck you you piece of shit.

[dyna mo]

********** drunk posting. Lolz. Hes the only one i know who instantly dumps 20 tons of polloution onto the planet yet whines about others pollution re:some birds.

Prolly why he gets so torqued up when a gfyer doesnt weep about dead birds 5 years ago in a gulf.

Prolly more birds killed yearly getting hit by cars but liberal b loggers dont tell ********** to get butthurt over that.


Ahahahahajzjs

[Phoenix]

You would almost think some people are on the legal team for BP. Wow.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I am aware of all of that. None of those are ecosystems. And none of those were destroyed. Which ecosystem was destroyed?

I just logged in to say FUCK YOU.

Always has to be ''that'' guy around. So tired of dumb cunt mouthed bastards doing their usual shtick.

All I can say is that just from this thread your an average lack luster moron that we already have way too many of.

When you look at the logistical nightmare we are facing in the future, we are really going to put a lot of faith in the average cunt hard leg to elevate his understanding of all things.

Its a scary thought to try to enlighten such a weak bitch.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by **********

Kinda hard to... I love animals and seeing pictures and videos of animals soaked in oil really get to me. Companies like BP can throw money at a problem like this but without actually understanding the damage caused. I forget his name now, but the big cheese of BP was photographed yachting and enjoying himself weeks after the oil spill started, and many weeks before it was finally stopped. I bet you $100 that that piece of shit dismissed all of the dead animals and damage he caused, exactly like Dyna Mo did: Completely fucking oblivious, callus, selfish, and unsympathetic because they simply can't be bothered.

You love animals but I guess you hate people.

40+ million abortions every year but I don't hear you crying about that. I'm not saying I'm for or against abortion, I'm simply stating the fact. Oh, that's right that's the one unmentionable fact/statistic that no one is never supposed to talk about to liberals or Canadians such as yourself.

According to most statistics that I can find there were about 4500 animals killed in the BP oil spill. By contrast Mount Saint Helens eruption 7000. 12 million fish and 70 people killed. I don't hear any outrage on that.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by Dvae

You love animals but I guess you hate people.

40+ million abortions every year but I don't hear you crying about that. I'm not saying I'm for or against abortion, I'm simply stating the fact. Oh, that's right that's the one unmentionable fact/statistic that no one is never supposed to talk about to liberals or Canadians such as yourself.

According to most statistics that I can find there were about 4500 animals killed in the BP oil spill. By contrast Mount Saint Helens eruption 7000. 12 million fish and 70 people killed. I don't hear any outrage on that.

OMG! What about the 30 billion chickens or so, those die each year? Nevermind the aborted, never to be born or most not even fertiled eggs (don't even get a chance).

Humans die, everything dies, total death count is enormous every single second, but it is ridiculous to try use that for downplaying things. At the end nothing matters, because there is no purpose, no meaning, nothing. You can take that approach, or some approach where things matter, more or less.

Because nothing matters naturally or should I say scientifically, it's up to you make things matter, at least for yourself.

[Scott McD]

Am i reading this right or has abortions just been compared to the BP oil spill ??

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Diomed

I just logged in to say FUCK YOU.

Always has to be ''that'' guy around. So tired of dumb cunt mouthed bastards doing their usual shtick.

All I can say is that just from this thread your an average lack luster moron that we already have way too many of.

When you look at the logistical nightmare we are facing in the future, we are really going to put a lot of faith in the average cunt hard leg to elevate his understanding of all things.

Its a scary thought to try to enlighten such a weak bitch.

If you want to think that the people that are trying to keep the facts straight on a oil spill disaster are the morons, then you are part of the problem, not the solution.

but I'm sure people like you think a "fuck you" on gfy actually helps with the disaster, so keep on doing your big part in solving all the shit you just mentioned with a fuck you while you use gas and oil like a typical fiend. In the meantime, learn up on what an ecosystem is because my pointing out no ecosystems are known to be destroyed at this time is a fact.

But I'll bite on your bullshit comment too, what logistical nightmare are we all facing in the future due to the disaster?

fill us all in!

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

********** drunk posting. Lolz. Hes the only one i know who instantly dumps 20 tons of polloution onto the planet yet whines about others pollution re:some birds.

Prolly why he gets so torqued up when a gfyer doesnt weep about dead birds 5 years ago in a gulf.

Prolly more birds killed yearly getting hit by cars but liberal b loggers dont tell ********** to get butthurt over that.


Ahahahahajzjs

Let me put it another way that might make more sense to YOU: BP, a Foreign company, is pumping your oil out of your land, and selling it back to you at an obscene profit (and getting US tax incentives too btw). At the same time, they have killed over 8000 animals on American land and in the Gulf, including many that are endangered, destroyed American businesses, and ruined lots of American lives. To make things worse, the pollution they caused is still there, killing more animals. A "Foreigner" did this to "Americans".. ooOooo. Does that have your conservative blood boiling now? Are ya polishing yer guns yet?

Those animals (birds, turtles, dolphins, etc) died a tragic, slow and painful death by poison and suffocation. Do you have a pet like a Dog or a Cat? How do you think you would feel if you found it covered, even its eyes and face, in oil? Struggling to breath? Crying in pain? Would you feel anything at all? No? Nothing?

And yes of course, you idiot - the BP disaster DID affect the ecosystem. Here are some facts for you from the National Wildlife Federation on the effects of the BP oil spill : https://www.nwf.org/What-We-Do/Prote...-Wildlife.aspx

Let me tell you from the bottom of my heart Dyno, Fuck You. You are a true piece of shit if you have zero sympathy for what happened in the Gulf, to the people, the land, AND the animals.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

You would almost think some people are on the legal team for BP. Wow.

Which thread are you reading? Because you are wrong. wow. Does it make sense to you that if the problem is outlined as an ecosystem was wiped out when it wasn't then doesn't that make the solution wrong?
of fucking course it does. And you interpret my addressing that as being BP sympthasizer? fucking lolz.

The problem with the disaster isn't ecosystems gone, it's many other things. The solution is to focus on that, not make shit up and have everyone hi-5 on that.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

Let me put it another wayBLAH BLAH WHINE BULLSHIT FINGRPOINTING

I'll put it to you the same way I always do you fucking hypcrite dumbfuck. You just dumped 20 fucking tons on shit pollution onto the planet with your fucking chevy volt while you point your fucking finger at me because I'm not crying about some fucking birds that died a few years ago.



Again- YOU JUST DUMPED 20 FUCKING TONS OF POLLUTION ON ME, BIRDS, DOGS, CATS, FROGS, FLIES, MOSQUITOES, EVERYTHING AND YOU POINT YOUR FINGER AT ME FOR A COMMENT.

[dyna mo]

<-----still lolling at the people thinking telling someone fuck you at gfy over an oil spill disaster is their way of helping the situation.

good fucking lolz on a sunday morn, nice!

[dyna mo]

**********, you simpleton, you should direct your 3rd grade level intellect into the real bird killers- windows and cats,

Between 365 and 988 million birds die from crashing into windows in the United States each year, according to a new report. That may be as much as 10 percent of the estimated total bird population of the country.

The estimate puts windows behind only cats as the largest source of human-related menaces that kill birds directly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...132_story.html

since you're so butthurt over a few thousand birds dead on this spill.

[Bryan G]

No matter what way you want to put it, all that oil pumped into the Ocean cannot be a good thing for the environment.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

**********, you simpleton, you should direct your 3rd grade level intellect into the real bird killers- windows and cats,

Between 365 and 988 million birds die from crashing into windows in the United States each year, according to a new report. That may be as much as 10 percent of the estimated total bird population of the country.

The estimate puts windows behind only cats as the largest source of human-related menaces that kill birds directly.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...132_story.html

since you're so butthurt over a few thousand birds dead on this spill.

can you please discuss this with Vendzilla re: wind energy vs. birds?

(besides that i find it hard to believe that someone would defend oil companies for polluting the environment and killing animals)

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

can you please discuss this with Vendzilla re: wind energy vs. birds?

(besides that i find it hard to believe that someone would defend oil companies for polluting the environment and killing animals)

Please point out where anyone in this thread defended an oil company for polluting. If i did, I will retract that comment.

[dyna mo]

Here's another thing. that was unprocessed natural crude oil coming straight from the ground,


Most people don't get that natural oil seepage into the oceans is profound, for instance, a natural oil seep off the coast of Santa Barbara leaks 25 tons of crude oil DAILY. every day of every week of every year year after year after year.

that's just one.

[dyna mo]

here's a colorful picture of that for the simpletons like ********** and the other fuck you poster.

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Here's another thing. that was unprocessed natural crude oil coming straight from the ground,


Most people don't get that natural oil seepage into the oceans is profound, for instance, a natural oil seep off the coast of Santa Barbara leaks 25 tons of crude oil DAILY. every day of every week of every year year after year after year.

that's just one.

The nature of natural oil leaks is very different.

"Seeps are generally very old and flow at a very low rate. The material that flows out is still very often toxic, but organisms some that live nearby are adapted to conditions in and around seeps. A few very unique species of animals are even able to use the hydrocarbons and other chemicals released at seeps as a source of metabolic energy. In addition, rather than being made up entirely crude oil, the material flowing from seeps is often heavily biodegraded by microbial action deep beneath the seafloor.

In contrast, the production, transportation, and consumption of oil by humans generally results in relatively short, high-volume inputs of oil and refined hydrocarbon products in places that have never experienced significant exposure to these chemicals and so do not have many natural defenses to them."

http://www.whoi.edu/oilinocean/page.do?pid=51880

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

The nature of natural oil leaks is very different.

"Seeps are generally very old and flow at a very low rate. The material that flows out is still very often toxic, but organisms some that live nearby are adapted to conditions in and around seeps. A few very unique species of animals are even able to use the hydrocarbons and other chemicals released at seeps as a source of metabolic energy. In addition, rather than being made up entirely crude oil, the material flowing from seeps is often heavily biodegraded by microbial action deep beneath the seafloor.

In contrast, the production, transportation, and consumption of oil by humans generally results in relatively short, high-volume inputs of oil and refined hydrocarbon products in places that have never experienced significant exposure to these chemicals and so do not have many natural defenses to them."

http://www.whoi.edu/oilinocean/page.do?pid=51880

no. they are not different. they are the same. there are no refined hydrocarbons, no refined anything. what would be different is the place a spill occurs being in a location not acclimated to seepage. the gulf of mexico is loaded with seepage and research since the disaster has shown nature's ability in the gulf to address the situation.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...anup-bacteria/

Moreover, the research is also in on the damage done by trying to clean up oil spills like this the way we do, it's been shown that just makes things worse.

[dantheman]

There is another issue that has got very bad along our coast in LA(lower alabama)and other gulf states.
Google, Tar balls found in Gulf teeming with 'flesh-eating' bacteria
This has cost limbs and life this year.
Also it's starting to effect the economy, fewer people are going to the beach

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

no. they are not different. they are the same. there are no refined hydrocarbons, no refined anything. what would be different is the place a spill occurs being in a location not acclimated to seepage. the gulf of mexico is loaded with seepage and research since the disaster has shown nature's ability in the gulf to address the situation.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...anup-bacteria/

Moreover, the research is also in on the damage done by trying to clean up oil spills like this the way we do, it's been shown that just makes things worse.

They are different, can't you read? They are different in terms of location, volume/time frame and composition.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

They are different, can't you read? They are different in terms of location, volume/time frame and composition.

again, just like your destroyed ecosystem comment, fill us all in on how the differences you seem to need to cling to actually make a difference.

feel free to refer to this picture for help.



so after natural seepage and oil runoff, the big difference is what?

[dyna mo]

Gulf of Mexico has greater-than-believed ability to self-cleanse oil spills
Date:
April 8, 2013
Source:
American Chemical Society (ACS)

Oil-eating bacteria are natural inhabitants of the Gulf because of the constant supply of food. Scientists know that there are more than 600 different areas where oil oozes from rocks underlying the Gulf of Mexico. These oil seeps, much like underwater springs, release 560,000-1.4 million barrels of oil annually, according to the National Research Council.


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0408152733.htm

[aka123]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

again, just like your destroyed ecosystem comment, fill us all in on how the differences you seem to need to cling to actually make a difference.

feel free to refer to this picture for help.

so after natural seepage and oil runoff, the big difference is what?

What the fuck? I already said it, let me quote myself:

"They are different in terms of location, volume/time frame and composition."

The natural oil seeps or human made oil spills are not uniformly divided to the sea area. And the volume/ time frame makes a huge difference. I give you simple example: You might enjoy eating chicken wings and maybe 100-200 grams is good meal size. And maybe 12 kg per year migh be OK, divided 1 kg per month and 250 g per week, but when you get 10 tons of those poured on top of you within 2 seconds, you will die.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by aka123

What the fuck? I already said it: let me quote myself:

"They are different in terms of location, volume/time frame and composition."

The natural oil seeps or human made oil spills are not uniformly divided to the sea area. And the volume/ time frame makes a huge difference. I give you simple example: You might enjoy eating chicken wings and maybe 100-200 grams is good meal size. And maybe 12 kg per year migh be OK, but when you get 10 tons of those poured on top of you within 2 seconds, you will die.

I see, because you said so makes it true. fuck the factS. Then let's use an overblown trite example to hammer that opinion home. it's that sort of thinking that makes disasters like the bp spill much much worse.