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Old 07-31-2014, 01:08 PM   #51
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Well, if no less an authority on geopolitics than washed up has-been Russell Brand says so then it must be true. It's obviously a no-brainer to base your views on the thoughts and opinions of egotistical, self absorbed and politically correct celebrities.

Thanks for clarifying the entire situation.



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Old 07-31-2014, 04:46 PM   #52
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Old 07-31-2014, 04:53 PM   #53
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Israel's Netanyahu has been lying to the world, to his people and to the Palestinians. His party wants no peace, his party wants extermination, domination and control. I think the Haretz article posted last week made that pretty clear.
Haaretz is very liberal, and while you may believe Netanyahu wants that, I sincerely don't think that's what he wants. You don't go through your own Holocaust, to wish a new one upon a different people 60-70 years later. Sorry, take off your tin foil hate. That's not to say there isn't right-wing assholes, but you're being a bit extremist.
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illuminati - they do control both sides


Great acting from the leaders of all the countries involved.
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Haaretz is very liberal, and while you may believe Netanyahu wants that, I sincerely don't think that's what he wants. You don't go through your own Holocaust, to wish a new one upon a different people 60-70 years later. Sorry, take off your tin foil hate. That's not to say there isn't right-wing assholes, but you're being a bit extremist.
Netanyaho didn't go through a Holocaust.

Even after the Holocost in the late 40's there were Jews still fighting amongst each other about what had happened and who was to take credit for hunting down the Nazis. The World Jewish Congress was happy to have it's own power and it and other organizations and individuals were already at a tug of war.

Only a FEW years afterwards!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Israel is split with lots of understanding people on the left, right and center but the hard right is in control at this time and they always want blood.
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Netanyaho didn't go through a Holocaust.

Even after the Holocost in the late 40's there were Jews still fighting amongst each other about what had happened and who was to take credit for hunting down the Nazis. The World Jewish Congress was happy to have it's own power and it and other organizations and individuals were already at a tug of war.

Only a FEW years afterwards!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Israel is split with lots of understanding people on the left, right and center but the hard right is in control at this time and they always want blood.
There's always domestic politics, everywhere. The hard right are always a bunch of turds, at the same time who is in charge in Gaza.... even bigger extremists - the contrast was seen when the 3 boys were kidnapped and Hamas supported it, and when the Palestinian kid was murdered and Netanyahu called the family to issue condolences.

It ends when both sides are willing to put down their weapons. I think the Israelis will put down their weapons before Hamas will because Hamas doesn't give a shit about life... they don't. They have had an out- stop the rocket fire, stop witnessing your own people go thru this ordeal, but they want to cling to political demands and keep firing rockets. They could've stopped this weeks ago. Hamas is only supported by 35% of people, the entire situation is shit, but I guess I see it as Hamas forcing Israel's hand. Israel is no innocent party, but I think they've hit the point, enough is enough. Extremism at the worst. The regular people suffer in ways that none of us can relate to. Hamas is equally as guilty as Israel, if not more guilty. There are only losers.



It takes two to tango. If you hate on Israel, you better follow it up with an equal or greater amount of hate for Hamas. They're #1 on the war crimes list if the UN is going to start throwing that around.

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A lot of these people do not give a shit about life...

Here's a candid interview:

She explains in a fairly rational tone, why they have their beliefs.

Another example of extremism at its worst.

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There's always domestic politics, everywhere. The hard right are always a bunch of turds,
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at the same time who is in charge in Gaza.... even bigger extremists -
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the contrast was seen when the 3 boys were kidnapped and Hamas supported it, and when the Palestinian kid was murdered and Netanyahu called the family to issue condolences.
Netanyaho did that (in my opinion) for political reasons not because he was a nice guy.

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It ends when both sides are willing to put down their weapons. I think the Israelis will put down their weapons before Hamas will because Hamas doesn't give a shit about life... they don't.
Not sure who will go first but I agree about Hamas not caring about life.

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They have had an out- stop the rocket fire, stop witnessing your own people go thru this ordeal, but they want to cling to political demands and keep firing rockets. They could've stopped this weeks ago.
They do fire rockets and don't care about life like you said.

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Hamas is only supported by 35% of people,
I agree. But people don't like to mention that. They want the Palestinians to look like a bunch of 'out for blood' terrorists.

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the entire situation is shit, but I guess I see it as Hamas forcing Israel's hand.
Forcing them to take action but not this drastic, which is where the problem lies in my opinion. Israel's response is unacceptable because of all the innocent lives it is taking.

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Israel is no innocent party, but I think they've hit the point, enough is enough.
Fine for them to feel that way. They still shouldn't kill so many innocent people.

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Extremism at the worst. The regular people suffer in ways that none of us can relate to. Hamas is equally as guilty as Israel, if not more guilty. There are only losers.
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It takes two to tango. If you hate on Israel, you better follow it up with an equal or greater amount of hate for Hamas.
I do.

I think many people who support the Palestinian people also dislike Hamas and see them for what they are. That is the reason they are not being criticized and talked about. We all agree they suck. So there are no debates. Also, they are not doing much if any damage so many feel Israel's response (this specific one that has killed many) is not necessary.
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Old 08-01-2014, 01:15 AM   #59
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Israel is a racist state. ( with no race involved !)

It is a state only for Jews.

They are using terror and military force to take the land of others.

Any resistance is met by murderous force and accused of "terrorism".

What madness that anyone in the world can pretend to be a Jew and go and live in Israel but the Palestinians who have lived on the land for generations.

Because to be a Jew is nothing different to any other human, as it is cultural historical religious and not really an objective feature of any human.
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Israel is a racist state. ( with no race involved !)

It is a state only for Jews.

They are using terror and military force to take the land of others.

Any resistance is met by murderous force and accused of "terrorism".

What madness that anyone in the world can pretend to be a Jew and go and live in Israel but the Palestinians who have lived on the land for generations.

Because to be a Jew is nothing different to any other human, as it is cultural historical religious and not really an objective feature of any human.
You're a special kind of idiot aren't you?

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The population of Israel, as defined by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, was estimated in 2014 to be 8,146,300 people. 6,110,600 citizens, or 75.3% of Israelis, are Jewish, 61% of whom are of Mizrahi Jewish ancestry.[23] The country's second largest group of citizens are designated as Arabs, with 1,686,000 people (including the Druze and most East Jerusalem Arabs).[1][24] The great majority of Israeli Arabs are settled Muslims, with smaller but significant numbers of semi-settled Negev Bedouins; the rest are Christians and Druze. Other minorities include Maronites, Samaritans, Dom people, Black Hebrew Israelites, other Sub-Saharan Africans,[25] Armenians, Circassians, Roma and others. Israel also hosts a significant population of non-citizen foreign workers and asylum seekers from Africa and Asia.
The real reason Israel exists today in this form is because for centuries the jews were persecuted by European jew haters like yourself. As we all know that persecution ultimately culminated in the holocaust. After the war the government of your once great country created the modern day state of Israel so they could have somewhere to live free of persecution and so that something like the holocaust would never happen again. I think somehow they knew that European jew haters would not stop being jew haters. They were right.

Now with open jew hatred once again on the rise in Europe, by people like yourself and the muslims you defend and embrace, European jews are again having to flee from persecution. At least now they have somewhere to flee too.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel



The real reason Israel exists today in this form is because for centuries the jews were persecuted by European jew haters like yourself. As we all know that persecution ultimately culminated in the holocaust. After the war the government of your once great country created the modern day state of Israel so they could have somewhere to live free of persecution and so that something like the holocaust would never happen again. I think somehow they knew that European jew haters would not stop being jew haters. They were right.

Now with open jew hatred once again on the rise in Europe, by people like yourself and the muslims you defend and embrace, European jews are again having to flee from persecution. At least now they have somewhere to flee too.

The British Empire - that great institution dedicated to human happiness, created Israel. It was agreed before holocaust not because of it. So who is the idiot stupid?

The idea of moving the Jews out of Europe was not to save them, it was a racist idea of anti semites and Zionists, the Nazis had the same plan. Madagascar was one proposal.

Jew hatred is not on the rise, even though the right is, their hatred is directed against the new bogey man the muslim.

As I am a communist you would have to be a cretin to call me a Jew hater as all the teachings I follow were mostly written by Jews.

Today me and thousands of others including Jews were telling the fascist Israeli State to stop the murder of children.
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created the modern day state of Israel so they could have somewhere to live free of persecution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_...ion_by_country

You see how many jews per country :

World 13,859,800
Israel 6,180,300
United States 5,425,000
European Union 1,105,700
France 478,000

Strange that more then 50% lives outside of Israel .... if their freedom could only be obtained in Israel !
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As I am a communist
That explains everything. Communism and the people who espouse it are nothing but worthless trash.
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Today me and thousands of others including Jews were telling the fascist Israeli State to stop the murder of children.
Many people are but in Israel they are not allowed to protest or else be labelled anti-"the family", unpatriotic anti Semite etc....
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Today me and thousands of others including Jews were telling the fascist Israeli State to stop the murder of children.
Marc Lynch, the Director of the Institute for Middle East Studies at GWU, put it succinctly when he said, “It must be so awkward having to check whether the dead child is from Gaza or Syria before deciding whether to be morally outraged.”

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What these figures do show is that while all war contains tragedy, including the one in Gaza and Israel, only deaths connected to Jews seem to evoke the cries we have been hearing over the number of dead in Gaza, which pales in comparison to other conflicts and is largely due to Hamas’ grotesque tactics. While there are few of you whom I would accuse as individuals of holding animosity toward Jews, there are many of you who are participating in a global, collective media assault on Israel that is indeed suggestive of something much darker.
All of this selective, one-sided outrage in many cases exposes a simple truth - scratch a leftist, find an anti-semite.


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Marc Lynch, the Director of the Institute for Middle East Studies at GWU, put it succinctly when he said, ?It must be so awkward having to check whether the dead child is from Gaza or Syria before deciding whether to be morally outraged.?

More here: http://tinyurl.com/oatqcs9



All of this selective, one-sided outrage in many cases exposes a simple truth - scratch a leftist, find an anti-semite.


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What a twisted article.
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Marc Lynch, the Director of the Institute for Middle East Studies at GWU, put it succinctly when he said, ?It must be so awkward having to check whether the dead child is from Gaza or Syria before deciding whether to be morally outraged.?

More here: http://tinyurl.com/oatqcs9



All of this selective, one-sided outrage in many cases exposes a simple truth - scratch a leftist, find an anti-semite.


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Scratch a Zionist find a racist child murderer.
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I blame the British, and to a lesser extent the French, who were only thinking about expanding their empires, but ended up creating the conditions that lead to the current situation. See this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E...icot_Agreement
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Says the person who follows a political ideology that is responsible for over 100 million deaths in the last century - including children, you worthless hypocrite.

You are a jew hater and nothing more. Communists and islamists are a far greater evil and threat in this world right now than fascists.

If you support islamism and you're a woman then prepare to enjoy wearing your veil, bitch.

Anyone who openly admits to being a communist and a supporter of islamists deserves no attention. You are clearly sick in the in the head and your opinion on Israel is worthless.







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What a twisted article.
Why is it twisted? Because it exposeses the hypocrisy of the situation?

Or are you just another jew hater?






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Says the person who follows a political ideology that is responsible for over 100 million deaths in the last century - including children, you worthless hypocrite.

You are a jew hater and nothing more. Communists and islamists are a far greater evil and threat in this world right now than fascists.

If you support islamism and you're a woman then prepare to enjoy wearing your veil, bitch.

Anyone who openly admits to being a communist and a supporter of islamists deserves no attention. You are clearly sick in the in the head and your opinion on Israel is worthless.



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Why is it twisted? Because it exposeses the hypocrisy of the situation?

Or are you just another jew hater?






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