which stuff is mixed up here exactly?

since you are mentioned Hamas is not responsible for these attacks (through for most of the attacks Hamas claimed responsibility) then who organized it?

please elaborate.

:thumbsup

Israel also wishes there would be some kind of solution, we can't find any yet.

example:
January 29
Emi Haim Elmaliah (32) - Eilat
Michael Ben Sa'adon (27) - Eilat
Israel Zamalloa (26) - Eilat
Three people were killed in a suicide bombing at a residential bakery in the southern city of Eilat. The Islamic Jihad and the Fatah al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack, along with the unknown ?Army of Believers.?

not HAMAS !

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Islamic Jihad has much in common with Hamas, since both fight against the existence of the State of Israel. Both groups were formed as offshoots of the Muslim Brotherhood and receive a large amount of funding from Iran. With similar goals, Hamas and the PIJ have worked together on a number of projects. The PIJ has Sunni members only, promotes Islamism and Sharia law and fights to establish an Islamic state

Hamas controls Gaza sector, so any terror act coming out of there is their responsibility.

It's funny how out of hundreds of cases where Hamas claimed responsibility you pull out one and say Hamas is innocent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...uicide_attacks

What is your point here? What you are trying to say? That Hamas is not a terrorist organization? That they don't blow up buses full of children and women in Israel?

Think twice before you hit the reply button

It is a situation of colonisation, where Palestinians are resisting the occupation of a coloniser, and therefore any act maintaining the occupation is by definition disproportionate and illegitimate. Yet it is still worth stating the latest statistics ? at the time of writing ? to show where most of the violence is coming from:
?The Israeli army has killed more than 1 283 Palestinians. According to the United Nations, approximately 80% of those killed are civilians.
?A UN agency is housing 167 269 displaced Palestinians.
?Rocket fire from Gaza has killed two Israeli civilians and a Thai migrant worker.
?About 43 Israeli soldiers have been killed in combat, all as a result of the army?s ground invasion.
?More Gazan children were killed in the first week of bombing than the total number of Israelis killed by Hamas rockets in the past 13 years.
?Israel has bombed schools, hospitals, a clinic for the disabled, a UN refugee centre and more.

how hard can it be to just anonymously drop a nuke over that place from a stealth bomber in the dead of night a few miles from above... The day someone has the smarts to do this is the day they save the world

UN report

http://www.ochaopt.org/documents/och...03_08_2014.pdf

Yesterday at approximately 23:00, an Israeli airstrike attacked the house of the Zoroub family, in a UNDP housing
project in Rafah, killing at least 13 family members, including seven children and three women.

Exactly. Being one of the wanted persons in Gaza hiding in the middle of the war behind the back of his family. That's a true face of these so called "fighters"

Intercontinental ballistic missile would do the trick as well :banana

you missed the 8-th...
8. Because WE CAN :)

Average Gazan Makes $2,900 Per Year ? While Hamas Leader Is Billionaire? In Qatar

The average per capita income for the people in Gaza and the West Bank is $2,900 per year according to the CIA Factbook. That means that Gaza-West Bank is listed way down on the list at 172 in the list of nations per capita income. On the other hand, Israel is ranked number 41 on the list with an average per capita income of $31,400 per year.

But, not everyone is suffering in Gaza.
Many top Hamas leaders are billionaires and millionaires.

Khaled Mashaal, the leader of Hamas, is worth an estimated $2.6 billion.

http://3-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/...aW65OhB8VX.jpg
Hamas billioinaire Khaled Meshaal works out in a private gym in a fancy part of Doha, Qatar, where he lives


Together with the donations from various countries, fundraisers began operating in the US to collect money for Hamas. Here, the Hamas leaders began to get their hands on some really big money. ?One of those fundraisers was Dr. Musa Abu Marzook, the number 2 man in Hamas,? Elad says. ?At the beginning of the 1990s, he began a fundraising campaign in the US among wealthy Muslims, while at the same time founding several banking enterprises. He himself became a conglomerate of 10 financial enterprises giving loans and making financial investments. He?s an amazing financier.?

The US administration ordered Marzook?s arrest in 1995 on charges of supporting terrorism. After he spent two years in a US prison, it was decided to expel him without trial. He kept the money.
Another Hamas leader-turned-tycoon is Khaled Mashaal. ?Estimates around the world are that Mashaal is currently worth $2.6 billion, but the numbers mentioned by the Arab commentators (based on their many sources) are much higher, varying from $2-5 billion invested in Egyptian and Persian Gulf banks, and some in real estate projects in the Persian Gulf countries,? Elad adds.

So while the average lackey in Palestine is living in squalor the Hamas leaders live as kings? in Qatar.
But they care. They really care.

And you know what's really an absurd, that Israel is going to help rebuild the Gaza back since we are humans being, while your Hamas jackals learned pretty well how to use it against us.

spin...spin... spin... so you are wrong .

My point is , as for the so-called 'kidnapped' soldier not' kidnapped ', is not to lie to people to justify your actions and make those actions seemed reasonable in respect as what the 'others'did .

normally, jews are smart ....

I see you just made the point out of your ass? didn't you?

If your point was about so called "kidnapped" soldier why you were talking about Hamas responsibility in a previous post?

No ass licking is needed right now.

p.s I'm not a jew, so don't even try ;)

http://www.algemeiner.com/wp-content...1/drfaisal.jpg

:)

Israel = Human Beings

Tricked again by evil Hamas

Gaza is your prison, you knock it down and then build it up.

Prick

:(

This really is nonsense. Set up a straw man argument. Who is supporting the war in Syria?

Who is supplying arms to Syria? The main Syrian opposition body - the Syrian coalition - receives logistic and political support from major Sunni states in the Middle East, most notably Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia. France, Britain and the US have also provided political, military and logistic support to the opposition.

Most people have tried to keep the war from spreading and oppose foreign involvement.

Israel pretends to be a European democracy, but is not in Europe and is not democratic.

It is murdering people with US and UK weapons. Again people are demanding justice for the Palestinians.

You seem to not understand the argument or are not able to have one.

I ALREADY agreed with you about how bad Hamas is.

Why do you keep trying to convince me about how bad they are?

Im not trying to convience you, just showing you facts. Alright, at least one point is clear. Do tell, what would YOU do if you would be prime minister of Israel? What's the solution if these bad guys want only one thing, to destroy Israel.

dare you

Palestinians Terrorists use UN Ambulance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRmYYSp0-B8

Always the dark sheep of the family, the lesser known and nearly wiped from history after converting to Judaism, Ami Skywalker returns from Gaza.

I would want to destroy them.

BUT ... I wouldn't do it by also killing over 1000 innocent people ... especially when Hamas' rockets are not effective.

I would find another way.

How can you destroy terrorists when they are hiding behind civilians?

I think IDF does it's best to avoid civilian casualties and many armies in the world can learn from this conflict.

Hamas rockets are not so effective as they want it to due our anti-missiles defense system "Iron dome", its destroys 90% of the rockets they fire at us.

However 10's of Israelis died from those rockets over the years, many injured, and these rockets defense systems cost hundreds of million dollars and billions in damages cause half of the country getting paralyzed.

IF you would find another way, I guess you would win a Nobel prize...

We and our alias can't find it for years. Diplomacy course just won't work with terrorists.

They are only destroying tunnels now. NOT Hamas.

What a load of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No kidding. Financed by the US too.

All those millions and billions you talk about are financed by the US in case you missed my point above.

Please! So the only way to get rid of the tunnel system is to bomb the shit out of the place?

Mossad is 'supposed' to be one of the more effective spy agencies in the world. Could they not have planted any bombs in the tunnels themselves? They do infiltration missions all the time.

Or ... how about the ground troops go in themselves to the tunnels and do the damage instead? Oh yeah, that may cost a few more troops. Better to let hundreds of children die than to risk any of your own soldiers.

I'm sure I've won the Nobel prize by now, but those solutions were off the top of my head.

Of course diplomacy won't work with terrorists but it doesn't mean you kill over 1800 people.

http://img.rasset.ie/0009518e-942.jpg

A Palestinian protester slings rocks at Israeli security forces in the village, which is near the northern West Bank city of Nablus.

http://img.rasset.ie/00095150-942.jpg

A boy stands alone in the rubble of his neighbourhood in Gaza City.

so according to this cocksucker logic, if the people of the USA do not oppose the #1 terrorist organisation in the world, the US army, that kills 100x more civilians than any other terrorist organization, the people of the USA are fair game and deserve to be beombed and killed?

ooooh right it does not work when 'mericans are concerned...

these rules apply only when 'mericans and israelis need another country to change their politics so that it suits 'merican foreign policy :1orglaugh but if 'mericans where held to the same standard they would cry bloody murder :1orglaugh

oh and all these "terrorists" hate the USA and Israel for NO reason :1orglaugh:1orglaugh I mean it cant be that the good ole USA and their aparheid buddies Israel did something? NOOOOOOOOOOOO :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the USA is so brainwashed its amusing to watch....

900 Hamas terrorist were killed in past 28 days in Gaza


Load of crap is in your head :)

It's financed for a reason.

once again, you are couch philosopher and have no idea what you are talking about, most of small business here are about to close up, they are all loosing money and no one financing it


Yes, before you bomb the tunnels, you have to find them.

Mossad is indeed very effective, through it's not related here at all :1orglaugh


That's what Israel did, they sent the ground troops to destroy the tunnels.

Yes, it's seems like you are the winner of the prize, indeed! :)


We didn't kill 1800 people, we killed about 900 terrorist and 900 civilians, shit happens

If we would want to target civilians, it's would be 1'800'000 :disgust

Very intelligent response.



Again, very intelligent response.



What do you mean 'once again'?

I have several friends, family members and neighbors who are Jewish and they travel back and forth to Israel often and none of them say what you are saying. You are only allowed to spew out what the Israeli givernment's propaganda machine wants you to. You are not even allowed to protest this campaign if you wanted to. I probably know more than you do and have a less biased opinion.




What the hell does that mean? Of course they know where the tunnels are or they wouldn't bomb them?



Why that would be the case and why you laugh is a mystery. I feel like I am talking to someone who has no idea how to answer questions.




And ... bomb the shit out of them from the air which resulted in city blocks being destroyed and people dying.



????




Shit happens is your attitude to admitting that 900 innocent people are dead? If 900 innocent Jews were killed by a Hamas rocket you wouldn't say 'shit happens'.

Scary how easily you brush off death of innocent people.

So you are admitting you can crush Gaza. Good. Since you are so powerful there is no need to be as aggressive as you are.

I would say that not everyone is but enough to do what the government would like.

And to be fair many people around the world are just as brainwashed too.

The argument you presented above is valid.