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  • crockett
    in a van by the river
    • May 2003
    • 76818
    #1

    Since smoking polls is popular with the right...

    Here is yet another problem for the GOP. Not only have they failed to attract any non white voters which is the fastest growing segment in this country, a new study by the pew research center shows that millennials pretty much hate the GOP and the constant out rage the Republican Party seems to be stuck in.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...51c_story.html

    But a new study by the Pew Research Center on millennials ? defined as those between the ages of 18 and 33 ? suggests that Republicans will have another major demographic issue on their hands in future elections: Young people are more liberal and are more inclined to support Democrats than the generations that have come before them.
    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.
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    • Barry-xlovecam
      It's 42
      • Jun 2010
      • 18083
      #2
      Crocket: Do a little research on the 'Pew Research Center'. I would be hesitant on believing what they say as not a manipulation of the polling data.

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        • bronco67
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2006
          • 29032
          #3
          Originally posted by crockett
          Here is yet another problem for the GOP. Not only have they failed to attract any non white voters which is the fastest growing segment in this country, a new study by the pew research center shows that millennials pretty much hate the GOP and the constant out rage the Republican Party seems to be stuck in.

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...51c_story.html
          there's been some Republican propaganda this week to counter the fact that most young people can't connect with the conservative movement -- unless they were brainwashed by their parents.

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            • Joshua G
              dumb libs love censorship
              • Jul 2008
              • 8198
              #4
              just so foolish...assuming trends in 2014 will carry over 20 years into the future.

              just wait til the youth put up with 4 years of hilary.

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                • JD
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 22651
                  #5
                  fuck the 2 party system.

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                    • Robbie
                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 20960
                      #6
                      When I see ancient Mitch McConnell as the face of the Republicans and ancient Harry Reid as the face of the Democrats...I see 2 sides of the same coin when you want to talk about "young" ideas in either of those crooked parties.
                      -Robbie
                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                        • Grapesoda
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 46238
                          #7
                          Originally posted by crockett
                          Here is yet another problem for the GOP. Not only have they failed to attract any non white voters which is the fastest growing segment in this country, a new study by the pew research center shows that millennials pretty much hate the GOP and the constant out rage the Republican Party seems to be stuck in.

                          http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...51c_story.html
                          most young people don't work or earn so naturally they have no concern for 'giving away other peoples money'... sorta like you?

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                            • 12clicks
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 19813
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                              most young people don't work or earn so naturally they have no concern for 'giving away other peoples money'... sorta like you?

                              yeah, sad thing is is how far you have to dumb it down to make the next generation understand.
                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                • Cherry7
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2005
                                  • 3564
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                  most young people don't work or earn so naturally they have no concern for 'giving away other peoples money'... sorta like you?

                                  Do you have your own money?

                                  Does it have your picture on it?

                                  Or you under the illusion that the money you use and passes through your hands is in some way "yours".

                                  The point of money is to mask who is really making useful stuff and who controls it.
                                  My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye


                                  Cinema Erotique

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                                    • Grapesoda
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 46238
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Cherry7
                                      Do you have your own money?

                                      Does it have your picture on it?

                                      Or you under the illusion that the money you use and passes through your hands is in some way "yours".

                                      The point of money is to mask who is really making useful stuff and who controls it.
                                      well, now we know you don't make over 15K USD per year



                                      2 kinds of people on this planet, successful and non successful that make up conspiracy theories to explain why they are failures

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                                        • Rochard
                                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 75733
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                          2 kinds of people on this planet, successful and non successful that make up conspiracy theories to explain why they are failures
                                          That's not bad really...
                                          Herschel Savage
                                          Brooklyn, NY

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                                            • KillerK
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2008
                                              • 3406
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by bronco67
                                              there's been some Republican propaganda this week to counter the fact that most young people can't connect with the conservative movement -- unless they were brainwashed by their parents.
                                              Kids are brainwashed by their teachers, who just happen to be highly Democratic. The teachers sorta have to be that way as it affects pay.

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                                                • L-Pink
                                                  working on my tan
                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                  • 39151
                                                  #13
                                                  "Since smoking polls is popular with the right…"

                                                  Not as popular as with liberals I suspect.


                                                  .

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                                                    • dyna mo
                                                      just a fucking jerk
                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                      • 68184
                                                      #14
                                                      not trying to be my usually cocky self but some need to prepare themselves starting now for a republican president in 2016, otherwise you're likely to blow a gasket when it happens.

                                                      And it will happen.

                                                      Most of you don't realize that less than a generation after the liberal 1960s, young voters overwhelmingly voted in Ronald Reagan



                                                      http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/re...xit-polls.html




                                                      current view:
                                                      To Americans in their 20s and early 30s ? the so-called millennials ? many ... problems have their roots in George W. Bush?s presidency. But think about people who were born in 1998, the youngest eligible voters in the next presidential election.

                                                      They are too young to remember much about the Bush years or the excitement surrounding the first Obama presidential campaign. They instead are coming of age with a Democratic president who often seems unable to fix the world?s problems.

                                                      ?We?re in a period in which the federal government is simply not performing,? says Paul Taylor of the Pew Research Center, the author of a recent book on generational politics, ?and that can?t be good for the Democrats.?
                                                      + all repubs need to do is start advertising liberal thinking in the 21st century means banning shit, regulations, etc. and you will witness a mass migration.

                                                      Not to mention that in the last 75 years neither party has ever occupied the wh for 3 consecutive terms.

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                                                        • dyna mo
                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                          • 68184
                                                          #15
                                                          If we zero in even further on the youngest of the millennials in these polls ? those who turned 18 during Obama?s first term ? the potential challenges for Democrats become even clearer. Among self-reported voters who were 18 years old in 2012, Mitt Romney, not Obama, won the majority: 57 percent. Romney also won 59 percent among 19-year-olds, and 54 percent among 20-year-olds.

                                                          These youngest voters of 2012 had entered the electorate in 2010-2012, when Obama?s popularity was much lower than the high point of his inauguration. Only among ?the oldest of the youngest? ? 21-year-olds, whose political memories would have been forged during Obama?s first year in office and perhaps during his first presidential campaign ? did Obama win a clear majority (75 percent).

                                                          Democrats have a young people problem, too.



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                                                            • 2MuchMark
                                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 50987
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                              Here is yet another problem for the GOP. Not only have they failed to attract any non white voters which is the fastest growing segment in this country, a new study by the pew research center shows that millennials pretty much hate the GOP and the constant out rage the Republican Party seems to be stuck in.

                                                              http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...51c_story.html

                                                              Here's one reason:

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                                                                • kane
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                  • 20684
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                  If we zero in even further on the youngest of the millennials in these polls ? those who turned 18 during Obama?s first term ? the potential challenges for Democrats become even clearer. Among self-reported voters who were 18 years old in 2012, Mitt Romney, not Obama, won the majority: 57 percent. Romney also won 59 percent among 19-year-olds, and 54 percent among 20-year-olds.

                                                                  These youngest voters of 2012 had entered the electorate in 2010-2012, when Obama?s popularity was much lower than the high point of his inauguration. Only among ?the oldest of the youngest? ? 21-year-olds, whose political memories would have been forged during Obama?s first year in office and perhaps during his first presidential campaign ? did Obama win a clear majority (75 percent).

                                                                  Democrats have a young people problem, too.



                                                                  Just curious were you get the numbers about Romney winning 19 and 20 year olds. Everything I read shows Obama having won 60% of the youth vote and Romney only getting 37%. Of course that is just a block of voters 18-29 and not just 18 and 19 year old. Plus, the chart you have there shows those who turned 18 during Obama's presidency voted pro-democrat.

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                                                                    • kane
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                      • 20684
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by KillerK
                                                                      Kids are brainwashed by their teachers, who just happen to be highly Democratic. The teachers sorta have to be that way as it affects pay.
                                                                      Are you saying republican teachers don't get paid as much?

                                                                      I think more teachers are liberal because teaching is a profession that attracts that type of a person. Just like engineering tends to attract nerdy, intellectual males and design attracts those with an artistic side. To be a teacher you have to want to help people and understand that you are likely not going to get rich. That tends to attract people with a more liberal mindset.

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                                                                        • dyna mo
                                                                          just a fucking jerk
                                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                                          • 68184
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by kane
                                                                          Just curious were you get the numbers about Romney winning 19 and 20 year olds. Everything I read shows Obama having won 60% of the youth vote and Romney only getting 37%. Of course that is just a block of voters 18-29 and not just 18 and 19 year old. Plus, the chart you have there shows those who turned 18 during Obama's presidency voted pro-democrat.
                                                                          from the article. The point is 18-20 year olds, not 18-29, thus the preface- "If we zero in on the youngest..."

                                                                          The point is dems have an identity issue as well, specifically among the youngest.

                                                                          re: charts:
                                                                          The reason is this: The dominant party identification of any new generation depends on the political and economic fundamentals in the country when that generation enters young adulthood. A booming economy and a popular president will push young people toward the president’s party. A recession and an unpopular president will push young people toward the opposite party.
                                                                          The graph from earlier research by the Pew Research Center (which I’ve noted before) shows how differently generations have voted depending who was president when they came of age.

                                                                          This shows the risks in predicting that, politically speaking, the young people of tomorrow will be like the young people of today. Someone looking at young people during the Reagan-Bush years, for example, might have assumed that the Republicans’ future was bright.

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                                                                            • kane
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                              • 20684
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                              from the article. The point is 18-20 year olds, not 18-29, thus the preface- "If we zero in on the youngest..."

                                                                              The point is dems have an identity issue as well, specifically among the youngest.

                                                                              re: charts:
                                                                              I'm clearly blind. I don't see which article you are talking about. Is it linked in this thread. . . My brain must be fucking with me today.

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                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                  not trying to be my usually cocky self but some need to prepare themselves starting now for a republican president in 2016, otherwise you're likely to blow a gasket when it happens.

                                                                                  And it will happen.

                                                                                  Most of you don't realize that less than a generation after the liberal 1960s, young voters overwhelmingly voted in Ronald Reagan



                                                                                  http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/re...xit-polls.html




                                                                                  current view:


                                                                                  + all repubs need to do is start advertising liberal thinking in the 21st century means banning shit, regulations, etc. and you will witness a mass migration.

                                                                                  Not to mention that in the last 75 years neither party has ever occupied the wh for 3 consecutive terms.
                                                                                  It always swing back and forth and people always get angry at the party that is in the office at the moment. The issue is, the voters demographics have changed quite a bit and the Republican Party hasn't kept up. Not only have they alienated pretty much anyone that is not white, they have only a small percentage of the next generation that buys what they are selling.

                                                                                  Yet another group that has become disenfranchised from the right in the Cubans in south FL. They used to be overwhelmingly Republican and helped win many elections for the Right in FL. Now they are drifting to the left as well, meaning one of the only minority groups that usually always voted Republican was lost.

                                                                                  While nothing would surprise me, the right just does not have the numbers to win a presidential race. They would basically have to pull a rabbit out of their hat and find a Republican version of what Obama was in his campaign.

                                                                                  Now due to gerrymandering, they can still hold strong in the senate and house races, but even that is coming to a end. In FL for example, a judge just ruled that the FL state GOP broke the law by redistricting for the last election, which greatly favored the Republicans. They now have to reverse the redistricting and go back to a previous set up.
                                                                                  Last edited by crockett; 07-14-2014, 02:34 PM.
                                                                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                    • 12clicks
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 19813
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by kane
                                                                                      Are you saying republican teachers don't get paid as much?

                                                                                      I think more teachers are liberal because teaching is a profession that attracts that type of a person. Just like engineering tends to attract nerdy, intellectual males and design attracts those with an artistic side. To be a teacher you have to want to help people and understand that you are likely not going to get rich. That tends to attract people with a more liberal mindset.
                                                                                      Incorrect. Teaching is just one more in a long line of lemming jobs anyone can do and takes no real intelligence.
                                                                                      Their daily diatribes about teaching being more than a glorified part time job, that liberalism is something to aspire to, etc. etc. diminishes the education system.
                                                                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                        • 12clicks
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 19813
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                          It always swing back and forth and people always get angry at the party that is in the office at the moment. The issue is, the voters demographics have changed quite a bit and the Republican Party hasn't kept up. Not only have they alienated pretty much anyone that is not white, they have only a small percentage of the next generation that buys what they are selling.

                                                                                          Yet another group that has become disenfranchised from the right in the Cubans in south FL. They used to be overwhelmingly Republican and helped win many elections for the Right in FL. Now they are drifting to the left as well, meaning one of the only minority groups that usually always voted Republican was lost.

                                                                                          While nothing would surprise me, the right just does not have the numbers to win a presidential race. They would basically have to pull a rabbit out of their hat and find a Republican version of what Obama was in his campaign.

                                                                                          Now due to gerrymandering, they can still hold strong in the senate and house races, but even that is coming to a end. In FL for example, a judge just ruled that the FL state GOP broke the law by redistricting for the last election, which greatly favored the Republicans. They now have to reverse the redistricting and go back to a previous set up.
                                                                                          Welcome home, lemming!
                                                                                          Found yourself a job? Good for you!
                                                                                          What is it? It's certainly nothing to do with this business
                                                                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                            • dyna mo
                                                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                                              • 68184
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by kane
                                                                                              I'm clearly blind. I don't see which article you are talking about. Is it linked in this thread. . . My brain must be fucking with me today.
                                                                                              I used the quote, if you're so keen on validating something that is not even the point, simply copy part of the quote and use Google. But you're still missing the point, which is it is of no benefit to assume young voter voting is historically demo when it's historically dependent on the other points mentioned.

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                                                                                                • kane
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                  • 20684
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                  I used the quote, if you're so keen on validating something that is not even the point, simply copy part of the quote and use Google. But you're still missing the point, which is it is of no benefit to assume young voter voting is historically demo when it's historically dependent on the other points mentioned.
                                                                                                  It appears that many young people vote based on how the country is doing when they come of voting age. If I were turning 18 right now and either heading off to college or trying to get a job I would likely not be happy with the how the country is doing. College costs a fortune and the job market sucks.

                                                                                                  I'm not sure how what those 18-19 year old's feel about Obama will grandly affect the next election. I think it will all come down to the candidates.

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