Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20158681)

mineistaken is Russian?

Originally Posted by nyllover (Post 20158660)

Don't forget the pasta :D :D

And btw... northern part is the only part of italy where you can stay, if you want to do some business of any kind...go to the south for vacations though, it's beautiful :)

P.S. and come to Tuscany for the best food :D

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20158725)

that include healthcare and unemployment benefit?

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20158722)

I moved here some 8 years ago. I was 22 years old, younger, stupider. I moved because I had this girlfriend in canada, and basically were breaking up, getting back together, breaking up, getting back together, etc. Terrible relationship, so i figured since I know the language, have dual citizenship and work from home anyways i'll just move away. Big change for me, everything was different. I lived and worked for a while, and didn't really enter the "system" here until a year or two after I came.

Poland is a great place to come and visit, but once you actually enter into the system buying a car, buying real estate, starting a company, etc etc you see it's actually a nightmare. The government is still more or less communist, seems like almost everyone is trying to fuck you in some way, evertyhing is setup to make private business as hard as humanly fucking possible. Payroll taxes and fees are almost a second salary of the employee. You are taxed on taxes (you buy a house, you pay 2% tax based on money you BORROWED from a bank to begin with and you of course cannot deduct this from income), the tax authority is housed by old communist ladies that will try to twist your words around in any way to fuck you ("this can't possible be a home office, there's a barbeque on the patio!"), I have to pay some $300/mo towards a mandatory retirement fund (adjusted for inflation going forward every year) until I retire at age 67 (unless they further raise the retirement age), at which point i'll get around $120 per month for the additional MAYBE 10 years i'll live), etc. It's all corrupt as fuck, and i'm really hoping this Korwin-Mikke (extremely right-wing politian that's gaining alot of ground lately) guy wins the next election - although it's a long shot...

Moving here did over the course of the last years let me build my company from 1 person at home to 9 people in an office, but I moved here everything here has just gotten worse and more expensive but i'm too settled in to move anywhere else for the time being + my fiance is a doctor and she can't work in other countries without passing some language exams.

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20158803)

Keep in mind how Sweden soon will be 100% Muslim country :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20158744)

Ah well i'l guess it will take hundreds of years to get rid of communist mentality.
But Polland is constantly praised in media as a country which pulled more money from EU funds then anyone else,how they are only country which had growth during crisis,etc..

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20158725)

that include healthcare and unemployment benefit?

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20158798)

Sorry to disappoint you but you just described a classic capitalist country, not the communist one :) If you want an example of a real country which is most close to communism, look at Sweden.

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20158825)

Healthcare's included, unemployment is different for the citizens and workers from NON EU regions.
Konrad returned to Poland from a better country, I moved to Poland from Ukraine, so, we have
different visuals on what is hard to do in Poland. My vision is not that bad, but I agree it's
somewhat fucked up at times too. I would complain as a non EU citizen of course, but that's
a whole another story.

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20159172)

In Poland, everyone assumes you are out to fuck them.

Originally Posted by Mediamix (Post 20159159)

I wish you all the best! :thumbsup

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20159157)

Sweden you pay a fuckload of tax

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20159157)

Yes, it includes healthcare with hospitals so dirty im scared to lean against the wall, and unemployment that would not cover groceries for myself for 3 days. It's about 3/5th social/retirement fund, and the rest is medical and unemployment.

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20159228)

Spain you pay about 260euros, but healthcare is great, includes some dental aswell. pension is about 420 a month, unemployment, now you do atleast get some cover, never used to.

UK system is a %, with a cap.. works much better.

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20159252)

I honestly have no problem paying for something as long as i'm getting something. It's simply bad business to pay $300 for 40 years and then get $120 for 10 years (if that) no matter how you spin it... I would be invariably better off just keeping the money in my own retirement savings.