My take on the Mid East is

[theking]

...get our people out of the region...provide all...that want them...with better arms..so they can more efficiently kill one another. My new thinking is that since they apparently enjoy killing each other so much...I say step away...and let them enjoy...enjoy...enjoy.

[MiamiBoyz]

I second this suggestion!

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by theking

...get our people out of the region...provide all...that want them...with better arms..so they can more efficiently kill one another. My new thinking is that since they apparently enjoy killing each other so much...I say step away...and let them enjoy...enjoy...enjoy.

we can't leave! OIL!!!!

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

we can't leave! OIL!!!!

It's not about oil, and never was about oil.
That's another lie in a pile of lies.

[theking]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

we can't leave! OIL!!!!

Pigshit.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by theking

...get our people out of the region...provide all...that want them...with better arms..so they can more efficiently kill one another. My new thinking is that since they apparently enjoy killing each other so much...I say step away...and let them enjoy...enjoy...enjoy.

We are already providing them with arms.
Where do you think they get them?

ISIS = CIA.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

We are already providing them with arms.
Where do you think they get them?

ISIS = CIA.

I said "better" arms...but I disagree...ISIS does not equal CIA.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by theking

I said "better" arms...but I disagree...ISIS does not equal CIA.

You can disagree all you want, but the fact is, ISIS is supplied, funded, and controlled by the CIA. They serve a purpose. (several purposes actually.)

[theking]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

You can disagree all you want, but the fact is, ISIS is supplied, funded, and controlled by the CIA. They serve a purpose. (several purposes actually.)

You can say they are all you want and it does not make it true.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by theking

You can say they are all you want and it does not make it true.

You're not too bright are you.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

It's not about oil, and never was about oil.
That's another lie in a pile of lies.

look up oil for food. if you dont think people are not trying to cheat oil producers in the middle east you better get to reading

[theking]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

You're not too bright are you.

Apparently not...as I do not agree with your brilliant made up SITREP.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

look up oil for food. if you dont think people are not trying to cheat oil producers in the middle east you better get to reading

Do you honesty think all this shit in the mid east is about oil? The U.S. is the world's largest oil producer. We have not taken a drop of oil out of Iraq. Afghanistan has no oil.

CIA?s Saudi Visa Mill:

Prior to the September 11, 2001, attack the CIA arranged passports and visas for veterans of its covert war in Afghanistan. This was confirmed by the former head of the American visa bureau in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, Michael Springman, who told then BBC journalist Greg Palast in November, 2001, he ?was repeatedly ordered by high level State Dept officials to issue visas to unqualified applicants? who were allowed to enter the United States.

?What I was protesting was, in reality, an effort to bring recruits, rounded up by Osama Bin Laden, to the US for terrorist training by the CIA. They would then be returned to Afghanistan to fight against the then-Soviets,? Springman said.

Months before the September 11 attacks Shayna Steinger, a consular official, issued 12 visas to the alleged hijackers at the consulate in Jeddah. A State Department memo states Steinger issued 11 visas to the hijackers, but one additional visa was issued by a second consular officer.

9/11 was absolutely 100% inside job.

Terrorists Trained by the U.S. Military:

Aaron Klein revealed that members of ISIS fighting against the al-Assad government in Syria were trained by U.S. military instructors in Jordan. According to Jordanian officials, the trainees ?were first vetted for any links to extremist groups like al-Qaida.?

ISIS emerged from the ranks of al-Qaeda in Iraq and is considered more militant and extremist than al-Qaeda.

Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, it was reported ? and subsequently relegated to the memory hole ? that a number of the purported hijackers were ?trained in strategy and tactics? at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Florida, and the Air War College in Montgomery, Alabama, according to Newsweek.

CIA Created Terrorists:

The CIA has a long history of hands-on experience with terrorists who have allegedly attacked the United States. Ramzi Yousef, the supposed mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the planned Bojinka attack, was recruited by the CIA and fought with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

Ali Mohamed, a major in the Egyptian army recruited by the CIA, ?trained most of al-Qaeda?s top leadership ? including bin Laden and [Ayman] al-Zawahiri ? and most of al-Qaeda?s top trainers. Mohamed taught surveillance, counter-surveillance, assassinations, kidnapping, codes, ciphers and other intelligence techniques,? U.S. prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald told the 9/11 Commission in 2004. ?For five years he was moving back and forth between the US and Afghanistan.?

?It?s impossible the CIA thought he was going there as a tourist. If the CIA hadn?t caught on to him, it should be dissolved and its budget used for something worthwhile,? Nabil Sharef, a university professor and former Egyptian intelligence officer, told The Wall Street Journal in November, 2001.

Returning members of ISIS, now hyped as the next wave of domestic terror, are not tourists, either. If, as predicted by a range of offcials, including Rep. Peter King and Sen. Lindsey Graham, ISIS attacks inside America it will be part of a larger plan to expand and extend the war on terror and put the finishing touches on the surveillance and police state in America.

This apparatus is not designed to protect against al-Qaeda or ISIS terrorists. The purpose is to spy on the American people, who are the real enemy, and make certain they cannot effectively challenge the political monopoly of the global elite.

Here's the deal:

al-Qaeda and Bin Laden (also CIA created) are old news. They needed a new group even more extreme. Enter: ISIS. They further destabilize the mid east, keep the war machine (money machine) going, we continue raping mid east countries of their wealth and secrets, the "terrorist threat" boogeyman is renewed providing justification for total surveillance and police state tactics globally, and central banks are installed in overthrown countries. This is all funded by the elite. Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, and the rest. The more things change, the more the stay the same. This WILL eventually spill over to Syria and Libya, probably Iran, and the drones are waiting.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Do you honesty think all this shit in the mid east is about oil? The U.S. is the world's largest oil producer. We have not taken a drop of oil out of Iraq. Afghanistan has no oil.

CIA?s Saudi Visa Mill:

Prior to the September 11, 2001, attack the CIA arranged passports and visas for veterans of its covert war in Afghanistan. This was confirmed by the former head of the American visa bureau in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, Michael Springman, who told then BBC journalist Greg Palast in November, 2001, he ?was repeatedly ordered by high level State Dept officials to issue visas to unqualified applicants? who were allowed to enter the United States.

?What I was protesting was, in reality, an effort to bring recruits, rounded up by Osama Bin Laden, to the US for terrorist training by the CIA. They would then be returned to Afghanistan to fight against the then-Soviets,? Springman said.

Months before the September 11 attacks Shayna Steinger, a consular official, issued 12 visas to the alleged hijackers at the consulate in Jeddah. A State Department memo states Steinger issued 11 visas to the hijackers, but one additional visa was issued by a second consular officer.

9/11 was absolutely 100% inside job.

Terrorists Trained by the U.S. Military:

Aaron Klein revealed that members of ISIS fighting against the al-Assad government in Syria were trained by U.S. military instructors in Jordan. According to Jordanian officials, the trainees ?were first vetted for any links to extremist groups like al-Qaida.?

ISIS emerged from the ranks of al-Qaeda in Iraq and is considered more militant and extremist than al-Qaeda.

Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, it was reported ? and subsequently relegated to the memory hole ? that a number of the purported hijackers were ?trained in strategy and tactics? at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Florida, and the Air War College in Montgomery, Alabama, according to Newsweek.

CIA Created Terrorists:

The CIA has a long history of hands-on experience with terrorists who have allegedly attacked the United States. Ramzi Yousef, the supposed mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the planned Bojinka attack, was recruited by the CIA and fought with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

Ali Mohamed, a major in the Egyptian army recruited by the CIA, ?trained most of al-Qaeda?s top leadership ? including bin Laden and [Ayman] al-Zawahiri ? and most of al-Qaeda?s top trainers. Mohamed taught surveillance, counter-surveillance, assassinations, kidnapping, codes, ciphers and other intelligence techniques,? U.S. prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald told the 9/11 Commission in 2004. ?For five years he was moving back and forth between the US and Afghanistan.?

?It?s impossible the CIA thought he was going there as a tourist. If the CIA hadn?t caught on to him, it should be dissolved and its budget used for something worthwhile,? Nabil Sharef, a university professor and former Egyptian intelligence officer, told The Wall Street Journal in November, 2001.

Returning members of ISIS, now hyped as the next wave of domestic terror, are not tourists, either. If, as predicted by a range of offcials, including Rep. Peter King and Sen. Lindsey Graham, ISIS attacks inside America it will be part of a larger plan to expand and extend the war on terror and put the finishing touches on the surveillance and police state in America.

This apparatus is not designed to protect against al-Qaeda or ISIS terrorists. The purpose is to spy on the American people, who are the real enemy, and make certain they cannot effectively challenge the political monopoly of the global elite.

Here's the deal:

al-Qaeda and Bin Laden (also CIA created) are old news. They needed a new group even more extreme. Enter: ISIS. They further destabilize the mid east, keep the war machine (money machine) going, we continue raping mid east countries of their wealth and secrets, the "terrorist threat" boogeyman is renewed providing justification for total surveillance and police state tactics globally, and central banks are installed in overthrown countries. This is all funded by the elite. Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, and the rest. The more things change, the more the stay the same. This WILL eventually spill over to Syria and Libya, probably Iran, and the drones are waiting.

yes it is about oil also about terrorism training grounds. also opium used to make morphine is produced there

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

yes it is about oil also about terrorism training grounds. also opium used to make morphine is produced there

"terrorist" training grounds? The CIA is training them.
The opium in Afghanistan is protected by U.S. military. Afghanistan supplies 95% of the world's heroin, and the U.S. Government is the largest drug dealer in the world. But that's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. You're not looking at the big picture.

[Amputate Your Head]

Ultimately, this is all about global enslavement.
The doom clock is about 30 seconds to midnight now.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Do you honesty think all this shit in the mid east is about oil? The U.S. is the world's largest oil producer. We have not taken a drop of oil out of Iraq. Afghanistan has no oil.

CIA?s Saudi Visa Mill:

Prior to the September 11, 2001, attack the CIA arranged passports and visas for veterans of its covert war in Afghanistan. This was confirmed by the former head of the American visa bureau in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, Michael Springman, who told then BBC journalist Greg Palast in November, 2001, he ?was repeatedly ordered by high level State Dept officials to issue visas to unqualified applicants? who were allowed to enter the United States.

?What I was protesting was, in reality, an effort to bring recruits, rounded up by Osama Bin Laden, to the US for terrorist training by the CIA. They would then be returned to Afghanistan to fight against the then-Soviets,? Springman said.

Months before the September 11 attacks Shayna Steinger, a consular official, issued 12 visas to the alleged hijackers at the consulate in Jeddah. A State Department memo states Steinger issued 11 visas to the hijackers, but one additional visa was issued by a second consular officer.

9/11 was absolutely 100% inside job.

Terrorists Trained by the U.S. Military:

Aaron Klein revealed that members of ISIS fighting against the al-Assad government in Syria were trained by U.S. military instructors in Jordan. According to Jordanian officials, the trainees ?were first vetted for any links to extremist groups like al-Qaida.?

ISIS emerged from the ranks of al-Qaeda in Iraq and is considered more militant and extremist than al-Qaeda.

Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, it was reported ? and subsequently relegated to the memory hole ? that a number of the purported hijackers were ?trained in strategy and tactics? at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Florida, and the Air War College in Montgomery, Alabama, according to Newsweek.

CIA Created Terrorists:

The CIA has a long history of hands-on experience with terrorists who have allegedly attacked the United States. Ramzi Yousef, the supposed mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the planned Bojinka attack, was recruited by the CIA and fought with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

Ali Mohamed, a major in the Egyptian army recruited by the CIA, ?trained most of al-Qaeda?s top leadership ? including bin Laden and [Ayman] al-Zawahiri ? and most of al-Qaeda?s top trainers. Mohamed taught surveillance, counter-surveillance, assassinations, kidnapping, codes, ciphers and other intelligence techniques,? U.S. prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald told the 9/11 Commission in 2004. ?For five years he was moving back and forth between the US and Afghanistan.?

?It?s impossible the CIA thought he was going there as a tourist. If the CIA hadn?t caught on to him, it should be dissolved and its budget used for something worthwhile,? Nabil Sharef, a university professor and former Egyptian intelligence officer, told The Wall Street Journal in November, 2001.

Returning members of ISIS, now hyped as the next wave of domestic terror, are not tourists, either. If, as predicted by a range of offcials, including Rep. Peter King and Sen. Lindsey Graham, ISIS attacks inside America it will be part of a larger plan to expand and extend the war on terror and put the finishing touches on the surveillance and police state in America.

This apparatus is not designed to protect against al-Qaeda or ISIS terrorists. The purpose is to spy on the American people, who are the real enemy, and make certain they cannot effectively challenge the political monopoly of the global elite.

Here's the deal:

al-Qaeda and Bin Laden (also CIA created) are old news. They needed a new group even more extreme. Enter: ISIS. They further destabilize the mid east, keep the war machine (money machine) going, we continue raping mid east countries of their wealth and secrets, the "terrorist threat" boogeyman is renewed providing justification for total surveillance and police state tactics globally, and central banks are installed in overthrown countries. This is all funded by the elite. Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Morgans, and the rest. The more things change, the more the stay the same. This WILL eventually spill over to Syria and Libya, probably Iran, and the drones are waiting.

Pigshit. I wasn't aware that you are into the tinfoil types. You are now dismissed.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by theking

Pigshit. I wasn't aware that you are into the tinfoil types. You are now dismissed.

Dismissed? I am dismissed by no man. You can fuck right off.

And you had better pull your head out of your ass and join reality real fucking soon.
This fucking bubble you idiots live in is imploding.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

"terrorist" training grounds? The CIA is training them.
The opium in Afghanistan is protected by U.S. military. Afghanistan supplies 95% of the world's heroin, and the U.S. Government is the largest drug dealer in the world. But that's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. You're not looking at the big picture.

forgive me terrorist training grounds i had some holidays drinks. opium is best drug ever clean ass high now i was some drugz

[pimpmaster9000]

ah americans LOL...bunch of klingons never accepting any personal responsibility no matter how many bombs they drop (more than hitler since ww2 ) no matter how obvious their military expansion is (bases in 130 of the worlds 190 countries) and no matter how much of a FAIL their army is

why did I write FAIL? well when did the USA ever win a war?

ww2? bombing some jap fishermen to keep the russians from walking in to japan after the russians walked in to berlin what a brave brave victory for the USA! gotta LOL at americans whent hey say "we won the war" LOL

vietnam? bombing asain farmers and fishermen is waaay popular with the US military, for one they are all small, for two they are poorly armed and last but not least 3: they never did shit to the USA so this makes them a perfect target what a success vietnam was! (LOL)

iraq? avghanistan? need I say more?

what exactly is the point of the US army except to fuck shit up? no seriously?

at least the US military is good for a joke

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

It's not about oil, and never was about oil.
That's another lie in a pile of lies.

If not OIL, then energy .... It is always about that ...

As a parallel, here is the latest on Ukraine ( following Biden`s son visit and appointment ) :

The Ukrainian parliament has passed the first reading of a bill allowing western companies to own up to 49 percent of the national gas transportation system (GTS), which is currently totally owned by Naftogaz Ukraine.

The 229 - 221 Friday vote means a foreign operator will be able to manage, be licensed to operate, or lease Ukraine’s gas pipelines or its underground storage, RIA reports.

On top of that, the Ukrainian government can set up a separate operator for the underground gas storage, where US and European companies could also get a 49 percent stake.

If there is no energy or natural ressources, there is no US/EU/Nato intervention

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

If not OIL, then energy .... It is always about that ...

As a parallel, here is the latest on Ukraine ( following Biden`s son visit and appointment ) :


If there is no energy or natural ressources, there is no US/EU/Nato intervention

then why are the troops not in other terrorist countries without oil? sudan i cant think of the others right now

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

If there is no energy or natural ressources, there is no US/EU/Nato intervention

Afghanistan?

[CDSmith]

Stop the madness!

Seriously, Amp is back. The arguing can wait, I'm heading out to buy some vodka to celebrate this event.


WAIT... one correction to this thread. USA is not the largest oil producing nation. It's #3 behind Russia (1) and Saudi Arabia (2). Canada is #6 if anyone cares. :D

US is however the world's largest consumer of oil. Numero uno. #1 baby, yeah! EU collectively is #2, China is third. Canada (if anyone cares) is 10th.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

then why are the troops not in other terrorist countries without oil? sudan i cant think of the others right now

are you serious ... wow, you proved me wrong ...

Barack Obama announced Thursday that he had deployed 45 American military personnel to South Sudan to protect the U.S. embassy and Americans in the country as it teeters toward ethnic civil war.

Ok ....

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Antonio

Afghanistan?

not worth a response .... research it yourself ...

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by theking

I said "better" arms...but I disagree...ISIS does not equal CIA.

As for "better arms", the Kalashnikov (AK-47) is one of the most robust weapons ever devised.

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

As for "better arms", the Kalashnikov (AK-47) is one of the most robust weapons ever devised.

It sure kicks ass in Max Payne.