I said in the initial post in the topic that I would read your replies in this topic. Didn't you read it? When you ignore someone if you want to view a post by them you only have to hit "view post" and it opens it in another tab.

Yes, Relentless, but again I think you miss the point. Tell me again how you are going to calculate the revenue per click on a discounted membership or new promo content before the sponsor even gives you access to either? That's one reason why you might want to build up a relationship with the owner. Personally it's not my model either. I only hit up sponsors for big issues like missing or late checks over a couple weeks. But I don't know everything just as you don't.

Again no one is saying $/click isn't useful or one of the better mathematical metrics to use. The problem is the real world isn't so easily fit within it. There are also other concerns in some instances.

If you want to call it ROI or Net $/click that's a mater of semantics. $/impressions is already included in the Net $/click because to figure out your net you need to include the cost of each click. I think you are struggling with the meaning of the word NET.[/quote]

The shorthand way to write that equation is: NET $/click

Net revenue - Cost of goods sold - Administrative expenses - income taxes = net income
http://www.accountingtools.com/definition-net-income

You fail to comprehend what ignore means and your signature on this board is even more laughable than most of what you post :1orglaugh

The idiotic threads are about shaving, leaks and conspiracy theories. All of that is automatically counted in your NET $/click. You don't even have to add a line item for any of it. What they paid you already automatically includes all of it every time without any exception.

Now you are trying to EXPAND that to say you are unable to place a value on certain things a sponsor provides. That is a different question entirely. Had someone started a thread saying "How much do you think getting a discounted membership link from a sponsor is really worth?" that would have been a meaningful discussion where people could exchange data and past experience with that sponsor or other similar sponsors. It has nothing to do with leaks or shaving or conspiracy nonsense.

To answer your question more specifically, I have gotten discount link codes from dozens and dozens of sponsors. I know what I usually earn AND roughly how much that number changes when I use a discount link code instead. More importantly, by the 2nd or 3rd period I know exactly how much my Net $/click is with any particular sponsor while using a discounted link code.

Here is a fact that may surprise you, some sponsors pay MORE per click with full price codes than with discounted codes and record more sales with them as well. Now, why would that happen? Do people want to pay more for a site and buy it more often if the price is higher... I DONT GIVE 2 FUCKS. Is the sponsor actually shaving discount links more than non-discount links? Who Cares. Is there some other reason? ZERO FUCKS GIVEN. That is all the sponsor's problem to figure out, not mine as an affiliate. I only need to focus on earning the highest $/click.

I have had site owners tell me "you dont want a discount link, the full price will earn you more." I don't ask twice, I dont ask for an explanation. They are supposed to know what works best for their own program. So I use the full price link. Now what happens if they pay me less as a result and Id have earned more with a discount link? That becomes THEIR problem because if I can sell my clicks to someone else with a better $/click, guess what I am going to do?

It always comes back to $/click. Your ignorance to it or on and off nonsense about ignoring my posts has zero to do with the actual value of the single most important stat in all of affiliate marketing. :2 cents:

Relentless, I'm ignoring your posts outside of this topic. I invited you to this thread so it would not make sense to ignore you here. In other topics you derail or hijack the thread by making 100+ replies talking about $/click. That is why I have you on ignore in general.

I really don't know what more to say if between everything I have written in this topic and everyone else has written you still do not see that sometimes there is more to things than calculating current $/click values.

I feel honored that you treat me the same way you treat Reason.

You ignore Reason constantly, so I am in very good company. :winkwink:

You are a God damned idiot.

It's more than a little ironic that you use a dummy as your avatar.

It is 90% likely ANY program will be gone in a year. Do you seriously not know how many 'small to medium size programs' are now owned by the same small group of large players? Take a look at GFY and see how often people post. Did you get the idea that maybe the industry is about 1/100th the size it was (in terms of people) that were here 5 years ago?

This industry is very quickly moving toward private affiliate programs for professional webmasters and tiny sandbox websites for part timers and conspiracy theorists. Many of the most lucrative sponsors are already private invite only. Instead of making yourself easy to work with, you are doing your best to convince the rest to go private quickly.

You are cutting the nose off your dummy avatar to spite its face.
http://www.qhdu.com/Dummy.jpg

Had no idea who you are or what sites you own. Asked two people and they also had no idea. So I looked up all your posts since you joined GFY: https://gfy.com/search.php?searchid=4962361. Couldn't find a single one that was informative or useful in any way. See if you can locate one and link it here in this thread. Good luck, bring a miner's hat... you'll be digging for quite a while. :1orglaugh

You're right, I should got make 5,000 posts about $ per click that ignores every single factor that would make the stats meaningless.

Your explanation of the situation for the clueless is well done signupdamnit. I'm starting to feel a little fluttery in the stomach to scroll by all Relentless's stupid posts missing the point though, I'm getting the "he was the quiet guy next door until he murdered all those people" vibe.

http://i.imgur.com/JaEkTTI.jpg

My $ per click with a single webcam sponsor was about half a penny for the first month. I am now at nearly $1.37 per click with that same sponsor. Guess I should have dropped them that first month though since Dipshit Inc made $0.01 per click!

Instead of what you have posted during the entire span of your GFY account?
Yes, that would be an upgrade.

That kid in the picture has a better understanding of affiliate sales and business models than you have :1orglaugh

I come here to look up specific information for myself, such as which sponsors are fucking you over by popping multi site deals you don't get credit for.

Your $/click was about .05 and you DECIDED to continue pushing traffic because you believed it would rise based on whatever factors matter... OR you just got lucky. Your CHOICE has now lead to 1.37 per click which seems to be a good decision, provided no other sponsor would pay you more than the total amount you made divided by the total clicks you have sent since the beginning of time to this sponsor. At no time did how you "feel" change any of those numbers. Even you managed to reach the same conclusion. That is how powerful MATH is... there is only one answer to 2+2 and even idiots will eventually stumble across it. :2 cents:

Is that you 12clicks??

If you had a sense of history you'd understand how silly that comment is on here. :1orglaugh

I apologize that was a low blow

This is very common for cams. The $ per click is useful but it needs a big sample of clicks to be meaningful.

I'm impressed someone figured it out. Most take him so seriously.

why do so many punks living with their parents feel compelled to type my name? Is this their way of trying to get me to hire their parents?

I got the same feel. "Back away from the keyboard... Slowly."

The more you rely on "feel" the less professional your decisions will be and the weaker your results will become. Take your feelings out of it, look at objective mathematical facts and learn the difference between a distraction and a dollar. :2 cents:

You might think you are in here looking smart but everyone that has read your contradicting, backpedaling thoughts thinks less of you. Let it die.

Quiet was smart. I am sharing some of what he taught me. You are useless, and I don't say that lightly. I say that after reading through all of your past posts here on GFY over the years. https://gfy.com/search.php?searchid=4964285

Did you find anything informative in any of your posts that you can link here in this thread... I didn't. Fortunately GFY has many more people lurking than posting, and among the ones who lurk and contact me the consensus is very clear. More importantly, these threads are profitable for me, they are 100% true and they allow me to assist real webmasters who are interested in earning more by working smarter.

Thanks for the opportunity. :thumbsup

hehe lol yeah! :1orglaugh :thumbsup

I was good friends with Dave and he was extremely smart. He was definitely smart enough to not latch on a piece of good advice and spew it as gospel even when the context was completely different. You can't ever keep your idiocy straight in one thread, no way I'd trust you with anything to do with my business based on your actions here. Aside from your old pals patting you on the ass who has been impressed with your supremely moronic logic?

Hint: Nobody.

PS, the claim that "writing this stupid shit makes me money, lolz" was true many years ago but it is not true on GFY today. You aren't making shit directly from writing here and I'd bet a nickel that it actually cost you money in the long run.

You are wrong about that... and that will surprise absolutely nobody who has looked at your post history. :1orglaugh

The value of most unique clicks never grows beyond 0.00¢

With some programs I have active rebills going back 5 years.

Those unique clicks are still earning me $$$. Their value keeps growing.

I'm sending my uniques to programs most likely to send me $$$ for the next few years.

Not to programs always on the lookout for a corner to cut when it comes to crediting affiliates for sales made from their traffic.

Read your own post. You are trying to send traffic where it earns the highest lifetime $/click. Good luck predicting all the variables and changes over the next few years of the universe, rather than basing your decisions on the simple math of the last 15, 30, 60 and 90 day periods.

You should start your own affiliate traffic program and call it NostradamusCash! :1orglaugh
http://horrornews.net/wp-content/upl...oftheworld.jpg

I've done fine personally, but ignoring the idiotic sponsors you like to apologize for. I'd go so far as to say that basing long term decisions on 15 to 90 days of data is about as fucking retarded as you can get.

PS, being stupid on GFY still isn't making you money directly.

Rolling data periods isn't 90 days of data. I have years of data from many sponsors in recurring intervals.

I don't apologize for anyone. I have yet to tell you any specific sponsor to send your traffic. Your stats tell you where to send it, not your feelings. I do agree with you that you being stupid on GFY isn't making me money. Thankfully you being stupid on GFY is not part of my business model. Hopefully it is also not part of yours. Giving cogent advice on GFY while generating massive amounts of true text to differentiate professionals from hobbyists definitely makes me money, and helps many others make money as well.

I volunteered an opinion. That's what forums are for. Volunteering opinions. Alternative perspectives.

Habitually refuting everyone else's opinions that you don't agree with is the sign of a psychological problem.

Putting you back on Ignore now.

Thanks Nostradamus.

I can't hear you.

Yay.