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Relentless 07-03-2014 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20146397)
You flip things around....

1 Did you promote RUC in any way before this thread?

2 If you didn't, do you plan to promote RUC now?

3 Was the $/click you earned before this thread high compared to other sponsors you promote?

4 Is the $/click higher now than it was before this thread in any meaningful way?

Easy questions to answer....

Relentless 07-03-2014 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20146408)
also is strange that relentless is addicted to ruc threads. there are more similar threads, where he can throw his ppc skills into the ring, but the one and only threads he is insterested in are ruc ... strange, isnt it? :)

That is very far from true. I have been posting about the idiocy of these kinds of things for years... There are threads on GFY years old where many people including myself and Freeones and others responded about similar topics. To me this is about the subject and the way it is being presented, not about any particular sponsor. You have not seen me tell anyone to send their traffic to any specific sponsor. Only to the sponsor that pays them the best $/click legally without harming their bookmarkers.

Only on GFY can "get the best EPC" be distorted into an attempt to claim bias :1orglaugh

Relentless 07-03-2014 10:09 AM

Teencat,

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=915973

Professionals trying to explain the exact same sorts of things since 2009.

Read the thread I linked and what I posted in it five years ago.
In 2009 RUC didn't even exist...

TeenCat 07-03-2014 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20146468)
Teencat,

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=915973

Professionals trying to explain the exact same sorts of things since 2009.

Read the thread I linked and what I posted in it five years ago.
In 2009 RUC didn't even exist...

lol, sorry, dont have time to waste anymore :) i see your ppc in that thread, enough :) really :) not reading all that shit, you hijacked this thread in my eyes, the only one that is important for me is that the sites are available for promotion, thanks to op, thanks for gfy and to ruc, finaly :) all that matters here :) see you around, i am out of here :)

Struggle4Bucks 07-03-2014 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20146428)
1 Did you promote RUC in any way before this thread?

2 If you didn't, do you plan to promote RUC now?

3 Was the $/click you earned before this thread high compared to other sponsors you promote?

4 Is the $/click higher now than it was before this thread in any meaningful way?

Easy questions to answer....

Yes very easy to answer... and the answers would probably suprise you...
But... it is off-topic and besides that... you have not-answered so many of my questions directed to you that it feels good to simply ignore things i want to ignore.

I will answer those questions if you answer all my ignored questions to you...

Struggle4Bucks 07-03-2014 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20146397)
Not the OP is damaging here... Deliberately setting up structures to minimize pay outs to affiliates; to deliberately keep a part of affiliate traffic out of tracking... without logic and/or any reasonble reason, only for the program to increase their profit at the expense of the affiliate, has a negative impact on the overall affiliate program business model DIRECTLY

This is on-topic... $/clicks is off-topic

Relentless 07-03-2014 11:01 AM

@Lucas you can admit you were wrong and my posts are in alignment with ones I made five years ago, long before RUC even existed.
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=915973
Same discussion 5 years ago

@Struggle
No, No, No and No. Nothing really to add.

TeenCat 07-03-2014 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20146553)
@Lucas you can admit you were wrong and my posts are in alignment with ones I made five years ago, long before RUC even existed.
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=915973
Same discussion 5 years ago

@Struggle
No, No, No and No. Nothing really to add.

oh, thats reply to me telling you are only in ruc threads :) ok, then, i am sorry, you have been also in another thread, five years ago :) hope all is good :) but that again is not the topic here :) :winkwink: have a nice day everyone :)

Relentless 07-03-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20146557)
oh, thats reply to me telling you are only in ruc threads :) ok, then, i am sorry, you have been also in another thread, five years ago :) hope all is good :) but that again is not the topic here :) :winkwink: have a nice day everyone :)

Thanks Teencat. I accept your apology. Have a nice day :thumbsup

Magnetron 07-04-2014 12:37 PM

Relentless,

Please quit harassing me at other forums with your crazy notions about how I am lying about you. Numerous other webmasters here have accused you of sucking Bro cock. I am not one of them. I would never accuse you of sucking Bro cock. I never implied that you suck Bro cock. The only thing I've said about you is that you have habitually bumped up two topics about RUC allegedly shaving ( this one and prior to this, TeenCat's ) for your own personal gain ( to acquire new clients in a manner similar to sig whoring ). That is not me lying about you sucking Bro cock. It is an entirely different thing. It is an opinion of mine based upon observation and logic. Honestly, if anything, it sounds more like you are sucking your own cock. Please make better use of your 4th of July holiday time better spent not behaving like an emotionally charged hysterical decision making dumbass.

Sincerely,

Magnetron

p.s. I still have you on Ignore here, but you're more than welcome to make a fool of yourself elsewhere.

Struggle4Bucks 07-04-2014 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20146553)

@Struggle
No, No, No and No. Nothing really to add.

Say what, say what, say what, say what? It wouldn't change a thing. It's off topic. Nothing really to add..

icymelon 07-14-2014 11:40 PM

mid june to today mid july ratio is 50% better than previous 6 months. But it's possible it could be just some better ranks on google. As sales are better last 60 days which is weird even with a summer slow down.

Captain Kawaii 07-15-2014 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 20158614)
mid june to today mid july ratio is 50% better than previous 6 months. But it's possible it could be just some better ranks on google. As sales are better last 60 days which is weird even with a summer slow down.

Your numbers may be unique to RUC affiliates.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1145419 :upsidedow

Relentless 07-15-2014 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20158637)
Your numbers may be unique to RUC affiliates.

Which is precisely why you need to track your own $/click and make business decisions according to objective metrics rather than your 'feelings'

Thanks for sharing useful stats Icy, I've been seeing some stronger stats lately across the board. I think the 'summer slowdown' is becoming less significant because the market of actual buyers is shrinking down to be mostly porn fanatics, and those guys don't take months off the way casual viewers do...

Matt 26z 07-15-2014 10:13 AM

http://i.imgur.com/K7pLqPu.jpg

Relentless 07-15-2014 10:38 AM

Heya Matt, welcome back.... which sites do you own?
I've asked a dozen times but you still can't seem to name one, and neither can anyone else...

Did you own any sites back in your posting contest days here on GFY and then get rid of them for some reason, or did you just never own any to begin with? It's sad that your entire contribution to the industry was a few dozen posts in this thread https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=893005 trying to win a prize :Oh crap

xXXtesy10 07-15-2014 11:13 AM

Wow, the websitesecure guy still fisting youporn guy's asshole. Unreal.

dillonaire 07-15-2014 11:14 AM

Ballz Deep!

arock10 07-15-2014 01:25 PM

Hey this thread needs more $/click being the best thing since Jesus analysis

Magnetron 07-15-2014 02:56 PM

NALEM is currently in need of a gay writer

Relentless believes $$$ / dick is all that matters.

It's a match made in Heaven.

Relentless 07-15-2014 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20159343)
Hey this thread needs more $/click being the best thing since Jesus analysis

$/click is better than Jesus. You can objectively verify $/click... You can't really do much of that with Jesus.

Captain Kawaii 07-15-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20159126)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Relentless still rimming after 11 pages. That's dedication to a website's anus. :thumbsup

DVTimes 07-15-2014 11:47 PM

bump for page 11

TeenCat 07-17-2014 03:27 AM

my sales goes up and ratio goes down, thanks to the new sites possible to promote, so thanks to original poster, and stfu every stupid ass saying stfu and move on! :1orglaugh have a nice day and have luck with your business everyone! :thumbsup

PornDiscounts-V 07-17-2014 04:23 AM

They have sites on .xxx what do you expect from them?

Relentless 07-17-2014 05:36 AM

Lucas, sales up and ratio down by how much?

TeenCat 07-17-2014 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20161274)
Lucas, sales up and ratio down by how much?

better than before at least for this moment, that is important for me :) really, dont await any debate with you, this is my last reply about this topic :winkwink:

Relentless 07-17-2014 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20161284)
better than before at least for this moment, that is important for me :) really, dont await any debate with you, this is my last reply about this topic :winkwink:

Every few replies you announce this is your last reply. Then the thread goes off page one and you reply to it. I'm not sure you know what the word 'last' means. I'm glad you say your sales improved. If you think a GFY thread is the reason for it, then you misunderstand more than the meaning of the word last. Have a great day. ;)

TeenCat 07-17-2014 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20161311)
Every few replies you announce this is your last reply. Then the thread goes off page one and you reply to it. I'm not sure you know what the word 'last' means. I'm glad you say your sales improved. If you think a GFY thread is the reason for it, then you misunderstand more than the meaning of the word last. Have a great day. ;)

ehh :) i know it can be taken like that, but i mean last reply about that actual topic, so about how my $/click got better actually :winkwink: if something new here comes, i will be here again if i find out i have to, but just reply fast, not talking tons of times about things that are not important and off topic here :) hope its more clear now :)

Relentless 07-17-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20161416)
ehh :) i know it can be taken like that, but i mean last reply about that actual topic, so about how my $/click got better actually :winkwink: if something new here comes, i will be here again if i find out i have to, but just reply fast, not talking tons of times about things that are not important and off topic here :) hope its more clear now :)

Ahh so it wasn't your last reply. :winkwink:

I am glad your stats are improving. Your stats matter more than your feelings. I do wish more people would post about their stats and less would post about their feelings.

BigFurry 08-07-2014 05:09 AM

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but looking at their CCBILL program, they have cookies set to 1 hour.

Raw, Unique:IP/Browser and Cookie timeframe: 1 hour(s)

That's insane imo.

Dmcontent 08-07-2014 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFurry (Post 20184804)
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but looking at their CCBILL program, they have cookies set to 1 hour.

Raw, Unique:IP/Browser and Cookie timeframe: 1 hour(s)

That's insane imo.

I guess a thief will always be a thief no matter how you look at it...

Relentless 08-07-2014 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmcontent (Post 20184948)
I guess a thief will always be a thief no matter how you look at it...

A "thief" steals something that is yours.

Cookie time limits or traffic leaks may not be optimal for you to monetize your clicks, that is not the same as stealing something that is yours. Affiliates failing to see the difference between 'business decisions you prefer not to work with' vs 'someone who takes things from you' is a big part of the problem with the affiliate business model these days (and a large part of why it is fading away).

If you aren't earning the highest $/click from a sponsor, for ANY reason, move your traffic. It's as simple as that, and it's very different from someone 'stealing from you.' There are many 'thieves' in this business... this is not one of them.

TeenCat 08-08-2014 08:03 PM

and mr relentless is still defending his client like mad ... that is insane ... :2 cents:

Captain Kawaii 08-08-2014 08:20 PM

Suffice to say if you do not run an illegal tube site you should not be promoting really useful cash.

Magnetron 08-09-2014 10:58 AM

STFU all your RUC haters!!!!!

An hour cookie lasts TWICE as long as those half hour cookies all the other sponsors give you.


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