Iraq Is Blowing Up Again

[RummyBoy]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27800319

Insurgents Have Taken Mosul & Tikrit and now a third city is under seige.

Amazing how fast they moved huh?

One minute no story, next minute big story.

[Tom_PM]

That worked out great.

Sarcasmically speaking of course.

[Captain Kawaii]

Money well spent. Blood well shed.
Americans need a government overthrow. Not in the cards though.

[Rochard]

These countries are a lost cause. You just can't rule these countries, they don't fit into the the standard "government mold" as we accept it. Pakistan is a good example - their government is in charge but they really only control a portion of the country.

[wehateporn]

[MorePassion4U]

Iraq hasn't got enough decent and trained troops to take back the cities from the insurgents. More cities will fall.

[Captain Kawaii]

That's exactly it. The current US installed Iraqi regime is not seen as a legitimate gov in the eyes of the region. No surprise this is happening.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

[_Richard_]

Tikrit just fell, Iraq is going under..

thank GOD we gave all these guys so much money for big oil little games.

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[2MuchMark]

[SuckOnThis]

Meanwhile back in Texas.....

[CAHEK]

Iraq have weapons of mass distraction we must INVADE NOW

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

Tikrit just fell, Iraq is going under..

thank GOD we gave all these guys so much money for big oil little games.

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and.. damn:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gest-city.html

'Tonight Turkey warned it will retaliate if any of its 48 citizen taken hostage at its embassy in Mosul are harmed'

[Lichen]

Originally Posted by RummyBoy

Amazing how fast they moved huh?

they are moving faster than the US army in 2003

[evy97]

USA & Al-Qaeda BFF

[DWB]

Wow, I never saw that coming.

Afghanistan will go the exact same way.

All the lives lost, the money spent, the resources and heartache... for nothing. Well, the contractors made out like bandits, but everything else was a wash.

'Merica! Fuck yea!

[Klen]

Originally Posted by DWB

Wow, I never saw that coming.

Afghanistan will go the exact same way.

All the lives lost, the money spent, the resources and heartache... for nothing. Well, the contractors made out like bandits, but everything else was a wash.

'Merica! Fuck yea!

It's a curse of Saddam,he said how when he was dictator,then everything was ok.Crazy.I guess for some countries democracy is simply not option.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

It's a curse of Saddam,he said how when he was dictator,then everything was ok.Crazy.I guess for some countries democracy is simply not option.

iraq is a democracy? i thought al-Maliki had been president since 06.

[Rochard]

I read an article about this earlier this morning.... The strange thing is about these "terrorists" is that they seem to do what the local government doesn't - including garbage disposal.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I read an article about this earlier this morning.... The strange thing is about these "terrorists" is that they seem to do what the local government doesn't - including garbage disposal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winning_hearts_and_minds

actually, i believe the US attempted this..

however, the youtube video of the tank destroying the taxi drivers car comes to mind. pretty sure garbage disposal works wayyyyyyy better

[SilentKnight]

Not even on the front page of our national CTV news website.

Guessing my fellow Canadians (and I) don't give a shit...again.

"Nuke the site from orbit...only way to be sure."

[cosis]

Iraq soldiers gave up pretty quickly

[directfiesta]

Wednesday, November 19, 2003 Posted: 11:31 AM EST (1631 GMT)

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LONDON, England (CNN) -- As anti-war protesters took to London's streets Wednesday, President Bush delivered a key speech during his state visit to Britain, standing firm on U.S.-Iraq policy, and vowing that "democracy will succeed" there.

"We did not charge hundreds of miles into the heart of Iraq and pay a bitter cost of casualties and liberate 25 million people only to retreat before a band of thugs and assassins," Bush said. "We will help the Iraqi people establish a peaceful and democratic country in the heart of the Middle East

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/11/19/bush.speech/

Anybody with a bit higher IQ then him knew this was all BS ... but those were the times of ' Why do you hate Amerika... '

[kane]

That part of the world has known nothing but unrest and bloodshed since the beginning of written history (and likely before). There is no reason to think it will ever be any different.

[TampaToker]

Foxnews is having a field day with this....

"Iraq has told the Obama administration it would allow U.S. airstrikes with drones or manned aircraft against Al Qaeda military targets on Iraqi territory, the Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday."

[blackmonsters]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk

[pornmasta]

meanwhile in alaska

[RummyBoy]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27809051

Well Kirkuk has just been taken.... remember Kirkuk from "liberation days"?

I want to visit that place and climb the Kirkuk tower. Its a bit like the Eiffel tower, except when you reach the top, they blow the shit out of you with a rocket

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPe1OiKQuk

nice ... basically joking while a whole country is destroyed and its citizens are killed ... why is he still alive ? and not in front of a '' Nuremberg '' type of trial ?

[Barry-xlovecam]

[RummyBoy]

Fallujah is also gone.

Karbala is next & baghdad.

It'll all be taken within a week by the looks of things.....

[ilnjscb]

So to rent the country for 8 years was only 2 trillion? NOICE!

[Theo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

These countries are a lost cause. You just can't rule these countries, they don't fit into the the standard "government mold" as we accept it. Pakistan is a good example - their government is in charge but they really only control a portion of the country.

Of course. Revolution in problematic regimes is the only way for things to change. For people, by the people.

I know there are a lot of US military veterans here. There's an HBO documentary you must see about the veteran's support line. More than 7000 people commit suicide every year and the support lines handle more than 200k call/year. It was one of the saddest documentaries ever.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by kane

That part of the world has known nothing but unrest and bloodshed since the beginning of written history (and likely before). There is no reason to think it will ever be any different.

Death, taxes...and people killing people in the middleast.

Universal constants.

[michael.kickass]

Saddam was able to control that people, now it's chaotic.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Dick and Liz Cheney Weigh In:

The situation in Iraq is truly worrisome, as militants threaten to tear the country asunder and disrupt the fragile, short-lived period absent all-out war there.

We have strategic interests in preventing Iraq from unraveling, not least of which is that we don?t need the country to become a haven for terrorists, particularly those who might see America as a target.

And of course, there is the uneasy subject of oil: Volatility in the region has already sent global oil prices soaring. On Wednesday, militants were said to have taken control of Iraq?s largest oil refinery.

We have to tread carefully here. There are no saints to be seen in this situation. Everyone?s hands are bloody. And, we don?t want to again get mired in a conflict in a country from which we have only recently extricated ourselves.

As we weigh our response, one of the last people who should say anything on the subject is a man who is partly responsible for the problem.

But former Vice President Dick Cheney, who was in the administration that deceived us into a nine-year war in Iraq, just can?t seem to keep his peace.

In an Op-Ed published with his daughter, Liz, in The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday, the Cheneys write:

?Rarely has a U.S. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many.?

This, from the man who helped lead us into this trumped-up war, searching for nonexistent weapons of mass destruction, a war in which some 4,500 members of the American military were killed, many thousands more injured, and that is running a tab of trillions of dollars.

During the lead-up to the war, Mr. Cheney said to Tim Russert: ?I really do believe that we will be greeted as liberators.? Nothing could have been further from the truth.

Even if it were indeed rare to be ?so wrong,? as Mr. Cheney puts it, he was vice president in an administration that was much more tragically wrong. His whole legacy is wrapped in wrong.

At one point in the article, the Cheneys state:

?Iraq is at risk of falling to a radical Islamic terror group and Mr. Obama is talking climate change. Terrorists take control of more territory and resources than ever before in history, and he goes golfing.?

Mr. Cheney must think that we have all forgotten the scene from ?Fahrenheit 9/11,? Michael Moore?s 2004 documentary, in which President George W. Bush, brandishing a club on a golf course, looks into the camera and says,

?I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Thank you.?

That is quickly followed by, ?Now, watch this drive,? and a shot of Bush swinging at the ball.

In fact, on one of the rare occasions that Mr. Cheney was actually right, in 1994, he warned about the problems that would be created by deposing Saddam Hussein:

?Once you got to Iraq and took it over, and took down Saddam Hussein?s government, then what are you going to put in its place? That?s a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq you can easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off.

Part of it the Syrians would like to have to the west. Part of eastern Iraq, the Iranians would like to claim, fought over for eight years. In the north you?ve got the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey. It?s a quagmire.?

That was quite prescient. And yet, the Bush administration pushed us into the Iraq war anyway, and the quagmire we now confront.

That?s why it?s so galling to read Mr. Cheney chastising this administration for its handling of the disaster that Mr. Cheney himself foresaw, but ignored.

I know that we as Americans have short attention spans, but most of us don?t suffer from amnesia. The Bush administration created this mess, and the Obama administration now has to clean it up.

The Cheneys wrote: ?This president is willfully blind to the impact of his policies,? Mr. Cheney seemingly oblivious to the irony.

George W. Bush may well have been a disaster of a president (in a 2010 Siena College Research Institute survey, 238 presidential scholars ranked Bush among the five ?worst ever? presidents in American history), but at least he has the dignity and grace ? or shame and humility ? to recede from public life with his family and his painting, and not chide and meddle with the current administration as it tries to right his wrong.

Mr. Cheney, meanwhile, is still trying to bend history toward an exoneration of his guilt and an expunging of his record. But history, on this, is stiff, and his record is written in blood.

The gall of Dick Cheney...



ADG

[Robbie]

And check this out:



And in case you think it was just Bush lying about "Weapons Of Mass Destruction"...check out PRESIDENT Bill Clinton talking about Iraq and WMD's in 1998:



No, it ain't just Bush and Cheney...it's the "other side" too.

We have been screwed by both parties and their bullshit.