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Roald 06-06-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PSD (Post 20114802)
Thanks for info, did they happen to say whether a nude but not sexually explicit lander was ok?

Imo they sounded like the weren't totally sure but this lander was 99% approved. Had to do some minor changes and will go over it again on Monday

http://www.clubseventeen.com/soft/

InfoGuy 06-06-2014 01:11 PM

linklist 2.0

Relentless 06-06-2014 01:11 PM

http://pornharms.com/big-win-google-stops-porn-ads/

Kappi 06-06-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20114798)
Hm had a phone call here today too and they claimed a non nude lander completely non sugestive on the same domain would be ok.

Some testing to do I guess.

Roals, so they said a non suggestive lander without explicit on the page itself is ok, but linking from this lander to a more explicit site or page is no problem?

PSD 06-06-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20114810)
Imo they sounded like the weren't totally sure but this lander was 99% approved. Had to do some minor changes and will go over it again on Monday

http://www.clubseventeen.com/soft/

Ok, be careful of those DVD box covers that contain the word teen as I know in the past they have disapproved ads for that even with 2257 notices.

deltav 06-06-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 20114807)
Less is more...:). They are digging their own hole...yahoo was once number one but lost it... Google just follows the same rule by thinking that "we know what people want to search for"

Thing is, Google's mid to long-term plan is not to "be the best search engine and web portal" - it's far far beyond that. If the average person were privy to how all their properties (both directly owned and indirect affiliations) make money and how they plan to develop them, people would be very surprised. And quite possibly very frightened.

This is just them cleaning up a dirty little corner of the net, in their view. It's a minor chore and much overdue from their perspective. And morality aside I have to think things would be different if our industry didn't have a rep for being so utterly spammy and shady, at least in the online realm.

Roald 06-06-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kappi (Post 20114817)
Roals, so they said a non suggestive lander without explicit on the page itself is ok, but linking from this lander to a more explicit site or page is no problem?

They did not say that and we just link to the join from it to be safe.

Roald 06-06-2014 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PSD (Post 20114821)
Ok, be careful of those DVD box covers that contain the word teen as I know in the past they have disapproved ads for that even with 2257 notices.

Yes good point might swap them out for others to be more sure.

In the end it will come down to testing what can and can't be done.

rastan 06-06-2014 01:29 PM

Thanks for the legwork Roald. Its appreciate by all Im sure

Roald 06-06-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rastan (Post 20114845)
Thanks for the legwork Roald. Its appreciate by all Im sure

Np just don't take it for granted, this was a Dutch Google employee. A US one might look at it differently. So again it comes down to testing what they allow and what not.

xpimp 06-06-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20114812)

"We are celebrating a HUGE VICTORY! Please take a minute to take it all in with us.

Keep fighting.

Thank you for your support!

Dawn Hawkins
Executive Director, Morality In Media"


fuckin eunuchs, google gradually will dig it's own hole

PSD 06-06-2014 03:02 PM

Just called in US, the persons interpretation I spoke with was that nude was ok so long as there is not sexually explicit activity. If anyone else calls, would be interested to hear what they tell you.

thesun12 06-06-2014 03:39 PM

related content systems will rise in adult biz too. same as they did last year with mainstream. bypassed google

SleepWalker 06-06-2014 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpimp (Post 20114925)
"We are celebrating a HUGE VICTORY! Please take a minute to take it all in with us.

Keep fighting.

Thank you for your support!

Dawn Hawkins
Executive Director, Morality In Media"


fuckin eunuchs, google gradually will dig it's own hole

Disturbing, these people seem to think Google will not allow promotion of any adult site, even if the content is locked in the members section!

is this what they mean by : "it seems Google will also no longer link to sites that contain such materials, no matter how benign their advertising." ??

it is confusing. At this point I wouldn't even thrust what their staff said over the phone. They don't have more info than we do. Why suddenly a none nude page would be required, their release says hardcore, masturbation, etc. They never used the word nudity.

seeric 06-06-2014 04:16 PM

We spoke to Google today. They are NOT discontinuing adult Adwords. They are going to roll out additional algos to clean up the advertising further. Nothing to see here.

deltav 06-06-2014 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpimp (Post 20114925)
"We are celebrating a HUGE VICTORY! Please take a minute to take it all in with us.

Keep fighting.

Thank you for your support!

Dawn Hawkins
Executive Director, Morality In Media"


fuckin eunuchs, google gradually will dig it's own hole

It is kinda grating to that gaggle of smug little puritans. That organization, Morality In Media, was founded by a bunch of priests - no wonder they hate sex.

But... your claim that "google gradually will dig it's own hole" is a bit silly. They've evolved so far beyond being an adspace-selling search engine, at this point they're playing on a completely different field than that.

SleepWalker 06-06-2014 04:22 PM

Maybe we will get more infos from this thread:

https://www.en.adwords-community.com...toy/m-p/359440

I hope this part: " I agree. Documentation control (revision #, and date) should be in place, on any documentation. I will bring up this point with the Policy team at Google." will help in bringing some details a more importantly, a fix date before when the changes have to be made.

Mr.Fiction 06-07-2014 01:33 AM

Will Google ban sites that link to hardcore content or only sites that show hardcore content?

xpimp 06-07-2014 02:03 AM

i don't know and i don't care anymore, if someone doesn't want your money in their advertising program, why bother? there are so many options out there.

for me it's pretty clear: if you have softcore content, like a non nude facebook page, where you don t even post any hardcore links, just very soft images, then you should be pretty much ok, otherwise you will risk it and even with that softcore images, still will be risky, it will depend of how their mood will be over time.

PornDiscounts-V 06-07-2014 02:16 AM

Dumped them when they told me Emily 18 wasn't old enough to make her own decisions about sex

Kevsh 06-07-2014 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by seeric (Post 20115044)
We spoke to Google today. They are NOT discontinuing adult Adwords. They are going to roll out additional algos to clean up the advertising further. Nothing to see here.

Could you elaborate a little? This seems contradictory to the message they have sent advertisers and the impression everyone affected has about the upcoming changes.

The email is pretty clear: "Beginning in the coming weeks, we'll no longer accept ads that promote graphic depictions of sexual acts including, but not limited to, hardcore
pornography; graphic sexual acts including sex acts such as masturbation;
genital, anal, and oral sexual activity."

As for Google this is not being handled well at all. They ask us to make changes but clearly they aren't even clear internally what the specific policy is. The assumption I made was, basically, if you have any kind of "sexual activity" you won't be using AdWords anymore.

MorePassion4U 06-07-2014 08:11 AM

[QUOTE=InfoGuy;20113870]If it's just limited to sex toys, it's probably ok, but if dvds are also included, then no.

At least some of the industry can carry on with Adwords

iwantchixx 06-07-2014 10:48 AM

maybe its a good thing as I dont thing big G is being honest on their click reports for adword campaigns anyways.

For one campaign we have 1,749 clicks (according to adwords) but...
only 53 clicks registered by NATS...

Peter-Porn 06-07-2014 11:08 PM

Wtf is going to happen?

BigFurry 06-08-2014 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tent Pitcher (Post 20114051)
If you haven't used Bing for adult ads before, it can be a real pain...they have a whitelist of "adult" keywords that you are allowed to use, which exponentially increases the cost of bidding since there are a lot of people (demand) and a finite number of keywords (supply).

Btw, to those who deal with Bing - should all upvote this, and also individually bring up this issue with their support, to make whitelisting keywords easier.

Suggestion: "New Adult Keywords should be judged by Search Traffic, not Impressions"
http://anonym.to/?http://bingads.use...by-search-traf

It's nearly impossible to whitelist new adult keywords now, because of the particular flawed practice.

NewNick 06-08-2014 01:56 AM

Thing is this has been policy for some time - when they start policing it, then you will have something to complain about.

I just did a search for adult cams. All of the adwords slots were as usual.

adultmobile 06-08-2014 10:10 AM

So what's the status? Looks like you can link to topless landings (so less soft as the soft landing of roald's seventeen) as long as this does not link itself to hardcore pages before the join page? And for cams I assume ok for clothed preview but not the play for free landings (this is live so for example in mfc, chaturbate etc. you can't filter these room out really).

HandballJim 06-08-2014 06:55 PM

It's crazy how they can dictate a major percentage of the internet. I guess Search.xxx might have some value in the future. Once people can't find what they are searching for they will search somewhere else.

American Psycho 06-08-2014 09:15 PM

Bump for more info...

mopek1 06-09-2014 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20115048)

But... your claim that "google gradually will dig it's own hole" is a bit silly. They've evolved so far beyond being an adspace-selling search engine, at this point they're playing on a completely different field than that.

Yeah but most of their revenue still comes from serving ads. If you read articles related to their shares you'll see this and also that attitudes are changing slightly (for now) about their positions to go long google.

There is also more and more negative sentiment among people towards google. It will be slow but I think they are losing ground, bit by bit, everyday.

I also know that they are buying up every company they can (it seems like 1 per day) but whether or not they will be able to do anything with them remains to be seen.

seeandsee 06-09-2014 05:17 AM

find other traffic source

fetishwealth 06-09-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 20117166)
find other traffic source

yep but sometimes they are the best suited for the traffic needs.

American Psycho 06-11-2014 10:28 PM

Bumpppppp

Clay 06-11-2014 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PSD (Post 20113742)
Anyone want to take a guess at what they will consider "hardcore pornography"?

So no graphic sexual acts or activity, so does that just leave sites that show nudity without models touching themselves or another?!

my ad was no photos and all g-rated text except the word "Transexual" in the url, Landing page was just a signup page and that ad got removed.
heres what my Adwords ad says under Keyword:

Keyword: ladyboy
Showing ads right now? No
This keyword is not running because it points to a URL that has been suspended for site policy. Please review our landing page policies and make the appropriate updates to your website to allow your keyword to start triggering ads again. What can I do?


Btw this is a brand new never used domain name with no history. My landing page is nothing but a g rated text-only logo and a form with no sales text. There isnt even an image there. Just a logo, white page, and form. lol

XMaster 06-12-2014 01:04 AM

I'm glad to have a adult related but-not-too-hardcore product :) - Feel free to promote us haha.

wehateporn 06-12-2014 05:53 AM


American Psycho 06-13-2014 02:09 PM

bump... any further updates.

timmyc38 06-13-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xpimp (Post 20113873)
yeah, look also at the images section


old grandpa design google

https://www.google.com/search?q=porn...ih=939& dpr=1

and now BING!

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=porn&FORM=HDRSC2


(microsot+yahoo)+(yahoo+tumblr)= microsoft xoxo porn

I remember they used to have a commercial, a blind taste test to see whose results you prefer.

I prefer the bing results above -

PSD 06-16-2014 07:40 AM

Looks like they clarified their policies a bit. States that "Visible genitalia, nipples, or buttocks" are ok so some nudity.


https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/6023699

American Psycho 06-16-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PSD (Post 20125852)
Looks like they clarified their policies a bit. States that "Visible genitalia, nipples, or buttocks" are ok so some nudity.


https://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/answer/6023699

Thank you for the update. nice to see verified info from our douchey overlord google.


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