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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20111863)

Ok I'll bite..

So your article claims that CO2 is good for the oceans as it encourages plant growth. Once again on the surface, this sounds great. Yet it isn't.

The author of that article is very much right, the added CO2 does increase plant growth.. Unlucky for us, is the fact that the plant growth that is increasing is algae. Alge is over running the oceans at an alarming rate. Killing coral reefs and other plant life around the world, when it blooms it also kills fish.

Does that sound good for us?

Also you mention we have to look at Geological time lines. Ok.. that's fine and dandy but we aren't dealing with geological time lines. the CO2 levels are rapidly increasing and have done so since the industrial revolution as we have added more and more pollution into the skys. We have speed up the rate that normally would have taken thousands of years to achieve.

It doesn't matter what happens over 5 thousand years when a super volcano randomly blows up and throws all the levels out of whack. We are that super volcano..

You are so full of hyperbole. It just all seems so irrational.

Anyways, in geological timelines:

- CO2 levels have been 20 times higher in the past than they are now. The earth didn't die.

- Average temperatures have been 10+ degrees higher than they are now. The earth didn't die.

- Sea levels have been tens of meters higher than they are now. The earth didn't die.

Even in the timeline of human history temperatures have been higher than they are now, with less CO2 oddly enough, and humanity did not die out.

This whole global warming thing is a whole lot of panic and a whole lot of wasted money over not much at all.

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20111833)

But it's not driving global warming. The temperature has not been rising along with CO2. It has been flat for almost 18 years. That fact has invalidated 20 years worth of climate models.

Once again more propaganda from the right. Whom tries to take advantage of the fact that the EPA uses a 100 year projection model. Meaning the last one was from 1900 to 2000 leaving out the most current years..

http://www.epa.gov/climatestudents/i...ECENT-side.gif

It's a good thing we also have NOAA to track the average temperatures of the globe..As well as many other sources whom all share the same data.. because i'ts right..

From 1880 to 2014

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-se...trendyear=2014

Since you mention the last 20 years..

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-se...trendyear=2014

Even though it's a smaller time frame example, it is not "flat" as you claim. It still trends upwards.

What you seem to not get is Global Warming is a "trend" Some years will be warmer and some will be cooler, this will increase as scientific models have projected because the warming globe causes erratic weather.

Still the trend is warming, not flat..

OPPs my bad I set a 10 year time frame..

Here yea go.. 20 years and it's still not flat.. It's still very much warming..

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-se...trendyear=2014