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venus 05-30-2014 11:01 AM

the police should be convicted of what exactly? what message should they get? Not to bust drug houses?

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20105628)
Criminal negligence under color of authority.

The police involved should be prosecuted and convicted without the normal immunities of this being the result of a "legal action". Put enough police in prison maybe they will get the message.


2MuchMark 05-30-2014 11:04 AM

Full story at:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bab...e-thrown-crib/

Location: Georgia
Governor of Georgia: Republican Nathan Deal

Mr. Deal:

Signs law to drug test welfare recipients:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A3S1AV20140429

Signs law to test food stamp recipients for drugs:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...mp-recipients#


Signs act to allow guns in public places including bars, nightclubs, schools & churches
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5199630.html

Is it any wonder why this poor baby was hurt? Think about it for a minute. Cops, especially in Georgia, must be scared out of their minds that behind every door is a crazy with a gun. What the cops did was horrible and fuck them for doing it, but at the same time, the cops probably thought they had a good reason to toss that grenade in there. If maybe the law made it alot tougher to get a gun, maybe the cops would relax, and maybe tragedies like this could be avoided.

JustDaveXxx 05-30-2014 11:04 AM

WOW! Crazy!! So sad!!


Just Dave

femdomdestiny 05-30-2014 11:09 AM

It is a result of tactics that are coming from fear from guns that everyone can buy. Anyway, ACAB, and I hate them because they are nothing more but sadists

dyna mo 05-30-2014 11:09 AM

**********, the backtracer.

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20105656)
Full story at:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bab...e-thrown-crib/

Location: Georgia
Governor of Georgia: Republican Nathan Deal

Mr. Deal:

Signs law to drug test welfare recipients:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A3S1AV20140429

Signs law to test food stamp recipients for drugs:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...mp-recipients#


Signs act to allow guns in public places including bars, nightclubs, schools & churches
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5199630.html

Is it any wonder why this poor baby was hurt? Think about it for a minute. Cops, especially in Georgia, must be scared out of their minds that behind every door is a crazy with a gun. What the cops did was horrible and fuck them for doing it, but at the same time, the cops probably thought they had a good reason to toss that grenade in there. If maybe the law made it alot tougher to get a gun, maybe the cops would relax, and maybe tragedies like this could be avoided.


RebelR 05-30-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20105092)
My god what a senseless tragedy. There is no reason for law enforcement to throw a grenade into a building unless they're under attack or there are hostages inside.

A drug bust - I hope a lawyer sues on behalf of the baby and gets him millions, if his parents are deadbeat drug dealers then better the kid get adopted.

According to an interview with the local sheriff, the C.I. who bought the drugs from the homeowner, relayed that they had guards posted at the door when he bought the drugs. The homeowner was known to police and had a number of weapons in the house, some of which had been confiscated on a previous raid.

Apparently when they entered the home, the crib was pushed up against the front door. Who the fuck puts a crib at the front door??

venus 05-30-2014 11:17 AM

who is responsible for the welfare of the baby..the parents are, if the parents take him to a drug house, they should be put in prison. Seems the parents are not taking responsibility for taking the baby there, they want to blame it on the police. The only ones at fault are the ones who are suppose to protect their child...the parents.

dyna mo 05-30-2014 11:23 AM

The baby will be fine and the parents will get a nice payout from the police to blow before the kid reaches 18.

SuckOnThis 05-30-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by venus (Post 20105679)
who is responsible for the welfare of the baby..the parents are, if the parents take him to a drug house, they should be put in prison. Seems the parents are not taking responsibility for taking the baby there, they want to blame it on the police. The only ones at fault are the ones who are suppose to protect their child...the parents.


You must work for State Farm insurance. One time my car got hail damage and they tried to refuse to pay saying I should have known it was going to hail that day.

From what I read the babies parents were visiting their relatives from out of state when this happened. But yea, they should have called a psychic before they traveled.

SuckOnThis 05-30-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20105686)
The baby will be fine and the parents will get a nice payout from the police to blow before the kid reaches 18.

Doubt that, the baby probably will be disfigured for life.

Rochard 05-30-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20105513)
I am in NO WAY minimizing what happened to the poor little kid but put some blame on the mother who decided to spend the night in a location where Meth was sold.
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I agree. The parents had their kids in a house that was selling drugs. It was only a matter of time before this went south.

dyna mo 05-30-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20105698)
Doubt that, the baby probably will be disfigured for life.


we all have scars. Again, that's fine. Not trying to devalue the accident here but the kid will be fine. With stellar parents and a solid family structure like he clearly has, this is going to be 1 event of many that kid will be dealing with.

SuckOnThis 05-30-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20105705)
we all have scars. Again, that's fine. Not trying to devalue the accident here but the kid will be fine. With stellar parents and a solid family structure like he clearly has, this is going to be 1 event of many that kid will be dealing with.

You have no idea the character of the parents, neither do I, but again, they were visiting relatives and were from out of state. You seriously think this is normal and blow it off as 'we all have scars'? Wow.

TheSquealer 05-30-2014 11:40 AM

How about a little "asshole piece of shit guy is selling meth and weapons with toddler in the house"? Anyone? No?

dyna mo 05-30-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20105718)
You have no idea the character of the parents, neither do I, but again, they were visiting relatives and were from out of state. You seriously think this is normal and blow it off as 'we all have scars'? Wow.

YOu missed the part about where I said I'm not trying to discount the accident. But again, the kid will be fine, we can sit around and point at the kid and say he'll be fucked up for life but that's just people's need to point when we all know that a physical accident such as this is overcome each and every day and people get on/move one.

Or you can stay stuck on it. I'm not trying to sell you on moving on, I am stating my view- the kid has bigger problems to fry with a family that has no other options than to stay at the family dope manufacturer/dealer's house, the one where they scoot the baby bed up against the front door.

pornguy 05-30-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20105070)
My experience living in other countries for years, and traveling abroad, is that anything is possible in any country. Whatever country you live in, don't believe, and redistribute, the propaganda. No matter where you are on earth there will be stupid cops, corruption, greed, spying, murder, torture, crimes against children, crimes against the elderly, rape, etc. The human condition has no international boundaries :thumbsup

Yep 100% for sure.

But only in America can that family get anything back from the ass hats that did this.

L-Pink 05-30-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20105722)
How about a little "asshole piece of shit guy is selling meth and weapons with toddler in the house"? Anyone? No?

This is GFY where personal responsibility is frowned upon.

blackmonsters 05-30-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20105637)
I'll bet a grand the mother knew the rent was being paid by dealing meth and she took the kid there anyway. Just saying.

Ok, but I don't think that matters because the violence involved in a raid is not worth what they are going to recover.

No one was in immediate danger from the meth or the suspect.

The cops use raids so they can capture the maximum amount of drugs at the scene.
Surprise them before they can destroy evidence.
If the cops have enough evidence to do a raid then why should they need any more evidence?
To boost up their "bust level". That's it. Burning up babies so they can get the big bag of drugs instead of the little bag.

blackmonsters 05-30-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20105722)
How about a little "asshole piece of shit guy is selling meth and weapons with toddler in the house"? Anyone? No?

So you think arresting an "asshole" is worth blowing up a baby?

L-Pink 05-30-2014 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20105848)

No one was in immediate danger from the meth or the suspect.

Just pointing out:

The suspect was armed and dangerous the last time he was arrested …. Also the "bedroom" was actually the garage being used as a bedroom.

"Thometheva, 30, of Cornelia, wasn’t a stranger to them, police say. Terrell said that during a prior arrest on drug charges, investigators discovered Thometheva had weapons, including an AK-47"

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breakin...ring-po/nf9XM/


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blackmonsters 05-30-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20105857)
Just pointing out:

The suspect was armed and dangerous the last time he was arrested ?.

"Thometheva, 30, of Cornelia, wasn?t a stranger to them, police say. Terrell said that during a prior arrest on drug charges, investigators discovered Thometheva had weapons, including an AK-47"

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breakin...ring-po/nf9XM/

So what, they didn't do any surveillance to even know if the guy was there.
The guy has got to be there before he can present a danger there.
Sounds like complete failure to me.

L-Pink 05-30-2014 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20105861)
So what, they didn't do any surveillance to even know if the guy was there.
The guy has got to be there before he can present a danger there.
Sounds like complete failure to me.

Yea, it was a fuckup. With everyone there guilty of something, bad judgment from everyone, including the people staying with friends selling meth.

The only innocent party was the kid.


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dyna mo 05-30-2014 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20105861)
So what, they didn't do any surveillance to even know if the guy was there.
The guy has got to be there before he can present a danger there.
Sounds like complete failure to me.

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20105865)
Yea, it was a fuckup. With everyone there guilty of something, bad judgment from everyone, including the people staying with friends selling meth.

The only innocent party was the kid.


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that's what happens when it's a war on drugs. grenades are used. collateral damage like a disfigured baby is a statistic. It's war.

TheSquealer 05-30-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20105849)
So you think arresting an "asshole" is worth blowing up a baby?

I think you're literally too dumb to talk to and hope for any sort of well reasoned, relevant or even intelligible response

blackmonsters 05-30-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20105878)
I think you're literally too dumb to talk to and hope for any sort of well reasoned, relevant or even intelligible response

I think you literally don't know what the fuck the word literally means.

:1orglaugh

crockett 05-30-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20105237)
Yep, he called up the cops and gave them the order to do this.

And this kind of stuff never, ever happened before he was in office.

Shit dude, don't you know Obama led the charge with Shaq!

kane 05-30-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20105891)
Shit dude, don't you know Obama led the charge with Shaq!

LOL. I forgot all about Shaq being a reserve cop.

Seth Manson 05-30-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20105063)
Only in America.

P.S. You can call me a US hater, but in my rude, corrupted and non-democratic country this is just impossible. Course the cops here are assholes, but they do not shoot (use grenades, tasers etc) at civilians. If the one would do something like that to a kid, he'll be sued, jailed and then ass-raped to death.

We dont call you that because of your comment in this thread.

We call you that because of your comments in almost every other thread that you post in. And it has cost you customers. Seems like you'd be smart enough to keep your personal opinions to yourself on a board where you do business, but that's clearly not the case.

Black All Through 05-30-2014 03:29 PM

They'll say he did the right thing and reward him with a medal, god bless america.

Jel 05-30-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20105777)
This is GFY where personal responsibility is frowned upon.

totally agree, *but*... isn't that a get-out for the police here? A job like that, you need to cross all the i's and dot all the t's.. the victim here is the kid, not the parents, and it's obvious the kid has shit for brains parents, but any asshole can be a parent. The same isn't meant to be true for cops.

One doesn't negate the other where responsibilty lies... because the parents were fuckwits, doesn't mean the cops should get a pass for being fuckwits also, and like I say, if anything they should know better. A not-like-for-like example is of an adult knowing better than a kid, but hopefully you get my drift.

If a person takes their kid to some shithole ghetto area and the kid gets shot, although the parents would be dumb cunts for doing so, the ultimate blame would be on the shooter. A valid defense wouldn't be 'well, take a kid into the ghetto at 1am on a saturday morning and what do you expect' (as much as the point itself would be valid).

brassmonkey 05-30-2014 04:06 PM

a cop bought drugs from the home. we call that a trap house on the streetz. having a baby in a drug house is fucked up :2 cents:

bushwacker 05-30-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20105976)
a cop bought drugs from the home. we call that a trap house on the streetz. having a baby in a drug house is fucked up :2 cents:

We? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

L-Pink 05-30-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20105965)
totally agree, *but*... isn't that a get-out for the police here? A job like that, you need to cross all the i's and dot all the t's.. the victim here is the kid, not the parents, and it's obvious the kid has shit for brains parents, but any asshole can be a parent. The same isn't meant to be true for cops.

One doesn't negate the other where responsibilty lies... because the parents were fuckwits, doesn't mean the cops should get a pass for being fuckwits also, and like I say, if anything they should know better. A not-like-for-like example is of an adult knowing better than a kid, but hopefully you get my drift.

If a person takes their kid to some shithole ghetto area and the kid gets shot, although the parents would be dumb cunts for doing so, the ultimate blame would be on the shooter. A valid defense wouldn't be 'well, take a kid into the ghetto at 1am on a saturday morning and what do you expect' (as much as the point itself would be valid).

You're correct, I'm just pointing out a responsible parent wouldn't have their kid in that environment in the first place.


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Jel 05-30-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20106017)
You're correct, I'm just pointing out a responsible parent wouldn't have their kid in that environment in the first place.


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yeah like I say mate, I hear ya, and 100% agree. What happens though, and I'm trying to be careful how I word this so it doesn't sound like I'm specifically calling *you* out, is that we (as a whole) end up justifying incidents like these because 'someone else shouldn't have done something else in the first place'. I dunno, I just don't like when that happens lol :upsidedow

kane 05-30-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20106020)
yeah like I say mate, I hear ya, and 100% agree. What happens though, and I'm trying to be careful how I word this so it doesn't sound like I'm specifically calling *you* out, is that we (as a whole) end up justifying incidents like these because 'someone else shouldn't have done something else in the first place'. I dunno, I just don't like when that happens lol :upsidedow

It is one of those situations where the parents shouldn't have had their kid in a drug house and the police should have been more careful with where they threw their flash bang or how they went about their raid.

Rochard 05-30-2014 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20106110)
It is one of those situations where the parents shouldn't have had their kid in a drug house and the police should have been more careful with where they threw their flash bang or how they went about their raid.

You are right. It is unacceptable that police use flash bangs when they go up against gang bangers armed with assault rifles. In fact, they should knock first just to make sure there is no kids inside.

brassmonkey 05-30-2014 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bushwacker (Post 20106004)
We? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you find a vacant or cheap house with a nice alley way. knock out the street lights and boom

Phoenix 05-30-2014 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20106114)
You are right. It is unacceptable that police use flash bangs when they go up against gang bangers armed with assault rifles. In fact, they should knock first just to make sure there is no kids inside.

Do you really believe they didn't know exactly who was in the house? I am willing to bet they knew. They most likely had eyes on that home and knew when everyone left and came.

I am not saying they meant for this to happen. However when you don't give a shit about what happens to people this is what happens.

kane 05-30-2014 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20106114)
You are right. It is unacceptable that police use flash bangs when they go up against gang bangers armed with assault rifles. In fact, they should knock first just to make sure there is no kids inside.

I'm not suggesting that they don't use flashbangs, I am just suggesting that they could be a little more careful. Maybe smash the door in and roll the flash bang in instead of blindly lobbing it through a window.

I would imagine they didn't know the baby was in there or where the baby was, but a few extra seconds of care potentially could have avoided this.

VikingMan 05-31-2014 12:14 AM

The report I read was that a confidential informant bought drugs from the owner of the house but NOT AT THE HOUSE.
The parents of the child were relatives who were staying there temporarily because their home had burned down.


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