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Rochard 05-30-2014 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20105513)
I am in NO WAY minimizing what happened to the poor little kid but put some blame on the mother who decided to spend the night in a location where Meth was sold.
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I agree. The parents had their kids in a house that was selling drugs. It was only a matter of time before this went south.

dyna mo 05-30-2014 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20105698)
Doubt that, the baby probably will be disfigured for life.

we all have scars. Again, that's fine. Not trying to devalue the accident here but the kid will be fine. With stellar parents and a solid family structure like he clearly has, this is going to be 1 event of many that kid will be dealing with.

SuckOnThis 05-30-2014 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20105705)
we all have scars. Again, that's fine. Not trying to devalue the accident here but the kid will be fine. With stellar parents and a solid family structure like he clearly has, this is going to be 1 event of many that kid will be dealing with.
You have no idea the character of the parents, neither do I, but again, they were visiting relatives and were from out of state. You seriously think this is normal and blow it off as 'we all have scars'? Wow.

TheSquealer 05-30-2014 11:40 AM
How about a little "asshole piece of shit guy is selling meth and weapons with toddler in the house"? Anyone? No?

dyna mo 05-30-2014 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20105718)
You have no idea the character of the parents, neither do I, but again, they were visiting relatives and were from out of state. You seriously think this is normal and blow it off as 'we all have scars'? Wow.
YOu missed the part about where I said I'm not trying to discount the accident. But again, the kid will be fine, we can sit around and point at the kid and say he'll be fucked up for life but that's just people's need to point when we all know that a physical accident such as this is overcome each and every day and people get on/move one.

Or you can stay stuck on it. I'm not trying to sell you on moving on, I am stating my view- the kid has bigger problems to fry with a family that has no other options than to stay at the family dope manufacturer/dealer's house, the one where they scoot the baby bed up against the front door.

pornguy 05-30-2014 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20105070)
My experience living in other countries for years, and traveling abroad, is that anything is possible in any country. Whatever country you live in, don't believe, and redistribute, the propaganda. No matter where you are on earth there will be stupid cops, corruption, greed, spying, murder, torture, crimes against children, crimes against the elderly, rape, etc. The human condition has no international boundaries :thumbsup
Yep 100% for sure.

But only in America can that family get anything back from the ass hats that did this.

L-Pink 05-30-2014 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20105722)
How about a little "asshole piece of shit guy is selling meth and weapons with toddler in the house"? Anyone? No?
This is GFY where personal responsibility is frowned upon.

blackmonsters 05-30-2014 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20105637)
I'll bet a grand the mother knew the rent was being paid by dealing meth and she took the kid there anyway. Just saying.
Ok, but I don't think that matters because the violence involved in a raid is not worth what they are going to recover.

No one was in immediate danger from the meth or the suspect.

The cops use raids so they can capture the maximum amount of drugs at the scene.
Surprise them before they can destroy evidence.
If the cops have enough evidence to do a raid then why should they need any more evidence?
To boost up their "bust level". That's it. Burning up babies so they can get the big bag of drugs instead of the little bag.

blackmonsters 05-30-2014 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20105722)
How about a little "asshole piece of shit guy is selling meth and weapons with toddler in the house"? Anyone? No?
So you think arresting an "asshole" is worth blowing up a baby?

L-Pink 05-30-2014 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20105848)

No one was in immediate danger from the meth or the suspect.
Just pointing out:

The suspect was armed and dangerous the last time he was arrested …. Also the "bedroom" was actually the garage being used as a bedroom.

"Thometheva, 30, of Cornelia, wasn’t a stranger to them, police say. Terrell said that during a prior arrest on drug charges, investigators discovered Thometheva had weapons, including an AK-47"

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breakin...ring-po/nf9XM/


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blackmonsters 05-30-2014 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20105857)
Just pointing out:

The suspect was armed and dangerous the last time he was arrested ?.

"Thometheva, 30, of Cornelia, wasn?t a stranger to them, police say. Terrell said that during a prior arrest on drug charges, investigators discovered Thometheva had weapons, including an AK-47"

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breakin...ring-po/nf9XM/
So what, they didn't do any surveillance to even know if the guy was there.
The guy has got to be there before he can present a danger there.
Sounds like complete failure to me.

L-Pink 05-30-2014 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20105861)
So what, they didn't do any surveillance to even know if the guy was there.
The guy has got to be there before he can present a danger there.
Sounds like complete failure to me.
Yea, it was a fuckup. With everyone there guilty of something, bad judgment from everyone, including the people staying with friends selling meth.

The only innocent party was the kid.


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dyna mo 05-30-2014 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20105861)
So what, they didn't do any surveillance to even know if the guy was there.
The guy has got to be there before he can present a danger there.
Sounds like complete failure to me.
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20105865)
Yea, it was a fuckup. With everyone there guilty of something, bad judgment from everyone, including the people staying with friends selling meth.

The only innocent party was the kid.


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that's what happens when it's a war on drugs. grenades are used. collateral damage like a disfigured baby is a statistic. It's war.

TheSquealer 05-30-2014 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20105849)
So you think arresting an "asshole" is worth blowing up a baby?
I think you're literally too dumb to talk to and hope for any sort of well reasoned, relevant or even intelligible response

blackmonsters 05-30-2014 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20105878)
I think you're literally too dumb to talk to and hope for any sort of well reasoned, relevant or even intelligible response
I think you literally don't know what the fuck the word literally means.

:1orglaugh

crockett 05-30-2014 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20105237)
Yep, he called up the cops and gave them the order to do this.

And this kind of stuff never, ever happened before he was in office.
Shit dude, don't you know Obama led the charge with Shaq!

kane 05-30-2014 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20105891)
Shit dude, don't you know Obama led the charge with Shaq!
LOL. I forgot all about Shaq being a reserve cop.

Seth Manson 05-30-2014 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20105063)
Only in America.

P.S. You can call me a US hater, but in my rude, corrupted and non-democratic country this is just impossible. Course the cops here are assholes, but they do not shoot (use grenades, tasers etc) at civilians. If the one would do something like that to a kid, he'll be sued, jailed and then ass-raped to death.
We dont call you that because of your comment in this thread.

We call you that because of your comments in almost every other thread that you post in. And it has cost you customers. Seems like you'd be smart enough to keep your personal opinions to yourself on a board where you do business, but that's clearly not the case.

Black All Through 05-30-2014 03:29 PM
They'll say he did the right thing and reward him with a medal, god bless america.

Jel 05-30-2014 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20105777)
This is GFY where personal responsibility is frowned upon.
totally agree, *but*... isn't that a get-out for the police here? A job like that, you need to cross all the i's and dot all the t's.. the victim here is the kid, not the parents, and it's obvious the kid has shit for brains parents, but any asshole can be a parent. The same isn't meant to be true for cops.

One doesn't negate the other where responsibilty lies... because the parents were fuckwits, doesn't mean the cops should get a pass for being fuckwits also, and like I say, if anything they should know better. A not-like-for-like example is of an adult knowing better than a kid, but hopefully you get my drift.

If a person takes their kid to some shithole ghetto area and the kid gets shot, although the parents would be dumb cunts for doing so, the ultimate blame would be on the shooter. A valid defense wouldn't be 'well, take a kid into the ghetto at 1am on a saturday morning and what do you expect' (as much as the point itself would be valid).

brassmonkey 05-30-2014 04:06 PM
a cop bought drugs from the home. we call that a trap house on the streetz. having a baby in a drug house is fucked up :2 cents:

bushwacker 05-30-2014 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20105976)
a cop bought drugs from the home. we call that a trap house on the streetz. having a baby in a drug house is fucked up :2 cents:
We? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

L-Pink 05-30-2014 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20105965)
totally agree, *but*... isn't that a get-out for the police here? A job like that, you need to cross all the i's and dot all the t's.. the victim here is the kid, not the parents, and it's obvious the kid has shit for brains parents, but any asshole can be a parent. The same isn't meant to be true for cops.

One doesn't negate the other where responsibilty lies... because the parents were fuckwits, doesn't mean the cops should get a pass for being fuckwits also, and like I say, if anything they should know better. A not-like-for-like example is of an adult knowing better than a kid, but hopefully you get my drift.

If a person takes their kid to some shithole ghetto area and the kid gets shot, although the parents would be dumb cunts for doing so, the ultimate blame would be on the shooter. A valid defense wouldn't be 'well, take a kid into the ghetto at 1am on a saturday morning and what do you expect' (as much as the point itself would be valid).
You're correct, I'm just pointing out a responsible parent wouldn't have their kid in that environment in the first place.


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Jel 05-30-2014 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20106017)
You're correct, I'm just pointing out a responsible parent wouldn't have their kid in that environment in the first place.


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yeah like I say mate, I hear ya, and 100% agree. What happens though, and I'm trying to be careful how I word this so it doesn't sound like I'm specifically calling *you* out, is that we (as a whole) end up justifying incidents like these because 'someone else shouldn't have done something else in the first place'. I dunno, I just don't like when that happens lol :upsidedow

kane 05-30-2014 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20106020)
yeah like I say mate, I hear ya, and 100% agree. What happens though, and I'm trying to be careful how I word this so it doesn't sound like I'm specifically calling *you* out, is that we (as a whole) end up justifying incidents like these because 'someone else shouldn't have done something else in the first place'. I dunno, I just don't like when that happens lol :upsidedow
It is one of those situations where the parents shouldn't have had their kid in a drug house and the police should have been more careful with where they threw their flash bang or how they went about their raid.

Rochard 05-30-2014 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20106110)
It is one of those situations where the parents shouldn't have had their kid in a drug house and the police should have been more careful with where they threw their flash bang or how they went about their raid.
You are right. It is unacceptable that police use flash bangs when they go up against gang bangers armed with assault rifles. In fact, they should knock first just to make sure there is no kids inside.

brassmonkey 05-30-2014 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bushwacker (Post 20106004)
We? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
you find a vacant or cheap house with a nice alley way. knock out the street lights and boom

Phoenix 05-30-2014 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20106114)
You are right. It is unacceptable that police use flash bangs when they go up against gang bangers armed with assault rifles. In fact, they should knock first just to make sure there is no kids inside.
Do you really believe they didn't know exactly who was in the house? I am willing to bet they knew. They most likely had eyes on that home and knew when everyone left and came.

I am not saying they meant for this to happen. However when you don't give a shit about what happens to people this is what happens.

kane 05-30-2014 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20106114)
You are right. It is unacceptable that police use flash bangs when they go up against gang bangers armed with assault rifles. In fact, they should knock first just to make sure there is no kids inside.
I'm not suggesting that they don't use flashbangs, I am just suggesting that they could be a little more careful. Maybe smash the door in and roll the flash bang in instead of blindly lobbing it through a window.

I would imagine they didn't know the baby was in there or where the baby was, but a few extra seconds of care potentially could have avoided this.

VikingMan 05-31-2014 12:14 AM
The report I read was that a confidential informant bought drugs from the owner of the house but NOT AT THE HOUSE.
The parents of the child were relatives who were staying there temporarily because their home had burned down.

Dvae 05-31-2014 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20105237)
Yep, he called up the cops and gave them the order to do this.

And this kind of stuff never, ever happened before he was in office.
The cops acted stupidly. Now maybe Obama will have a beer with them and make it all better.

neb 06-06-2014 07:14 AM
Wow, again ATL!
 
I moved from Atlanta in 2007, and right after I moved a swat team did a no knock warrant on an elderly lady alone in a house, that they claimed they had an informant buy from(the house not the lady) Well...they had the wrong house, she shot(thought it was a home invasion), they shot, end of story.

Like someone else posted, there is NO REASON for this. Certainly there are drugs that need to be off the streets and drugs that need to be legalized, but there is no reason at all to put ANY of the people involved in this situation. Wait for the dude to leave the house and pull him over. Call him in for questioning on an unrelated thing he may know something about, etc.

Rochard 06-06-2014 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20105848)
No one was in immediate danger from the meth or the suspect.
The last time the suspect was arrested he had an AK47.....

Tom_PM 06-06-2014 07:34 AM
It's a WAR on drugs, not a tea party on drugs!

They train for war, they prepare for war, they come in with utterly overwhelming force and tactics and if a few dogs, grandmas and babies get fucked up in the process then they are casualties of that war.


If we don't want this then on paper we can change it. :disgust

OneHungLo 06-06-2014 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20106124)
you find a vacant or cheap house with a nice alley way. knock out the street lights and boom
Hey can elaborate on this? Maybe you could start a new thread so we could pin it and place it in the GFY educational section

Barry-xlovecam 06-06-2014 09:33 AM
When the police behave like soldiers they should not be surprised when criminals shoot back at them with fully automatic weapons. When you start a war, the enemy shoots back.

There was no imminent danger, the police were not greeted with threats of gunfire or any actual gunfire or material threat -- they are lucky that they didn't walk through the door finding a very angry father, heavily armed, with no little alternative but to use deadly force.

Assholes don't live long, or if they do: they get beaten regularly, literally or by life (metaphorically) ... This goes for the occupants of that drug house and the cops that raided it -- they are all shit in my book.

michael.kickass 06-06-2014 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20105562)
I believe he hates us all.
There's no god, just stupid ppl out there. :2 cents:

GregE 06-06-2014 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20105705)
we all have scars.
This isn't about run of the mill scars, the kid's going to have a majorly fucked up looking face for the rest of his life. Burns never heal well.

But yeah, the parents own most of the blame for keeping him in a drug house :disgust

dyna mo 06-06-2014 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 20114602)
This isn't about run of the mill scars, the kid's going to have a majorly fucked up looking face for the rest of his life. Burns never heal well.

But yeah, the parents own most of the blame for keeping him in a drug house :disgust
I never said it was about run of the mill scars. I received 3rd degree burns on a 3-4% of my face and hands when I was in the 6th grade, I figured out how to survive and no my face isn't majorly fucked up.

you don't know how that kid's face will end up, let's not assume the worst just so we can point at the kid and say he is guaranteed to be fucked up for life. Plenty of scarred/ugly/deformed people make it just fine in life.

Best-In-BC 06-06-2014 10:46 AM
For once, this is because of white people and there views on the police, good luck changing a brain washed group of blind morons. The stupidity when I hear, I know a cop and he's a nice guy doesn't mean shit cause when your not around, he's not that fucking guy!

Socks 06-06-2014 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20114413)
The last time the suspect was arrested he had an AK47.....
If the cops raided your home, what kind of guns would they find?

Maybe they could have done something like: Waited until he came outside to arrest him peacefully.

kane 06-06-2014 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 20114770)
If the cops raided your home, what kind of guns would they find?

Maybe they could have done something like: Waited until he came outside to arrest him peacefully.
The reason they don't do that is that they don't want to risk having the evidence destroyed. If he walked out of the house and they peacefully arrested him, someone else could be in the house flushing the drugs down the toilet.

WDF 06-06-2014 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Socks (Post 20114770)
Maybe they could have done something like: Waited until he came outside to arrest him peacefully.

Or maybe they could use Tax Payer money to just buy the drugs from the guy so they do not end up on the street!:upsidedow

Or the could send him a card telling him they are going to raid his house a few days before they actually raid it.:upsidedow


Really?????!!!!!

Barry-xlovecam 06-06-2014 06:26 PM
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[D]eputies said they bought drugs from the house, and came back with a no-knock warrant to arrest a man known to have drugs and weapons ...
Moot point, they already had their evidence ... The Sheriff's department already made a successful drug buy and had the dope.

They were simply greedy pigs (pun intended) trying to up the charges with a larger quanty confiscation in the raid -- more sentencing time for the perf further justifying their no-knock warrant. Really, the Judge that granted the no-knock warrant under these circumstances should be censured (or removed from the bench altogether).

The target of the no-knock warrant was not even in the house. Had the occupants have been allowed to surrender -- when the woman came out holding the baby what would the Deputies have done ? "Hey bitch, drop the baby and put your hands on your head or we will shoot you (or the baby)".

Then the Sheriff has the gall to defend his and his Deputies actions as this is just "shit happens."

Shit happens a lot to assholes it seems ...

Captain Kawaii 06-06-2014 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20105603)
Sad and funny at the same time. The sign.

I hope the cops who did it pay dearly for their crimes. Jail is too easy a place for them.

martinsc 06-07-2014 01:53 AM
:Oh crap :Oh crap


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