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05-28-2014, 11:53 AM

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So then how should they treat and react to Russians whom come into their country to fight? Call them illegal immigrants or shoot them dead?

I would say that local population supports these co called separatists...just look at charts from latest elections - 2010 in these regions...
http://tinyurl.com/on8l9p4

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05-28-2014, 11:53 AM

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Exactly, like in Dubrovka and Beslan. Pretty much all hostages and terrorists killed by Russian special forces with gas or tanks.

I know your "news" sources are cool, but let me post some pictures:

These guys have easily took over Tajbeg Palace in Afghanistan but they lost more in Beslan while covering the kids with their bodies.

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05-28-2014, 12:19 PM

2008 Beijing Olympic Games - Russia invades Georgia.
2014 Winter Olympics in Soch - Russia invades Ukraine.

Deja vu, well let's hope they won't start another war or escalate more bloody shit in Ukraine during FIFA World Cup 2014.
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05-28-2014, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

I know your "news" sources are cool, but let me post some pictures:
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dont bother, he is trained by media to hate "Ruskies" while in fact he is Ruskie in 50 % by himself...
being half of Ruskie is that part which he doesnt accept of himself, that's why he "hates" Ruskies..

it is the Jungian psychology thing
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05-28-2014, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by e-god

2008 Beijing Olympic Games - Russia invades Georgia.
2014 Winter Olympics in Soch - Russia invades Ukraine.

Deja vu, well let's hope they won't start another war or escalate more bloody shit in Ukraine during FIFA World Cup 2014 .

It's cool to have an idiot like you here, but

1) Russia did not invade Georgia in 2008. Russia just responded to the Georgian army attack on Russian troops. Educate yourself : http://euobserver.com/foreign/28747

2) There are no Russian forces in the Ukraine right now. Otherwise the Ukrainian army would be terminated within hours. The one must not be a rocket scientist to understand that simple fact.

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05-28-2014, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by klinton

dont bother, he is trained by media to hate "Ruskies" while in fact he is Ruskie in 50 % by himself...
being half of Ruskie is that part which he doesnt accept of himself, that's why he "hates" Ruskies..

it is the Jungian psychology thing

My wife is 25% Ukrainian, 25% Polish (by her mother) and 50% Russian (by her father), and you know, we have no problems at all

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05-28-2014, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

I know your "news" sources are cool, but let me post some pictures:

at first one is like this:

but then..
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05-28-2014, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by klinton

so, where were Ukraine's last 25 years ?

and as for the Eastern Europe countries: yes of course they are, usually cheap fabrics for western products

and all others from these countries left to work in the west, do you think that EU will need 30 million cheap workers from Ukraine while having its own problems ?

All of them are richer than Russia except the last two that joined the EU. It is kinda sad actually
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05-28-2014, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Antonio

All of them are richer than Russia except the last two that joined the EU. It is kinda sad actually

what is sad ?
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05-28-2014, 01:03 PM

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My wife is 25% Ukrainian, 25% Polish (by her mother) and 50% Russian (by her father), and you know, we have no problems at all

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05-28-2014, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by crockett

Putin has caved, you just don't see it yet (or wont admit it). It's pretty obvious that a backroom deal has been made. Putin will save face by saying he will respect the will of the people and their new president but we all know he's caved and realizes he can't push this further.

Putin has left those Russian separatists whom are probably a large number Russian troops, out to hang. Also I realize you want to be all wave the flag and all, but those 100 troops are dead. They didn't take out 1000 Ukraine forces.. They died and Ukraine didn't lose a single soldier..

Putin will save face? He pretty much bitch slapped EU/US by taking back Crimea with 0 dead while European officials were crying about it with stupid sanctions that will harm them more... it's Obama who's trying to save his face by yelling about another sanctions lol .... what exactly you want Putin to do now? send army into Donetsk? that 100 dead will turn into 10,000 dead and will make EU/US plan success by turning brother vs brother... that's the plan all along, to turn slavs against each other... remember when West doesn't like something Putin does, it must be a good thing for Russia
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05-28-2014, 01:23 PM

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Fuck off, pervert ;)

The most close one is this:

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05-28-2014, 01:27 PM

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05-28-2014, 01:29 PM

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Putin will save face? He pretty much bitch slapped EU/US by taking back Crimea with 0 dead while European officials were crying about it with stupid sanctions that will harm them more... it's Obama who's trying to save his face by yelling about another sanctions lol .... what exactly you want Putin to do now? send army into Donetsk? that 100 dead will turn into 10,000 dead and will make EU/US plan success by turning brother vs brother... that's the plan all along, to turn slavs against each other... remember when West doesn't like something Putin does, it must be a good thing for Russia

Putin pretty much showed that he can steal land from any country that is not in NATO, is this what you call "good for Russia?" What is the end goal? Building brand new and shinier USSR? That worked really well last time....

The sooner Russia gets rid of this midget, the better off the Russians will be - in 2014 you don't need a dictator with Napoleon complex, you need a working economy that is built on something more than oil and gas.

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05-28-2014, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by qwe

Putin will save face? He pretty much bitch slapped EU/US by taking back Crimea with 0 dead while European officials were crying about it with stupid sanctions that will harm them more... it's Obama who's trying to save his face by yelling about another sanctions lol .... what exactly you want Putin to do now? send army into Donetsk? that 100 dead will turn into 10,000 dead and will make EU/US plan success by turning brother vs brother... that's the plan all along, to turn slavs against each other... remember when West doesn't like something Putin does, it must be a good thing for Russia

So it's a good thing to further isolate Russia from the rest of the world and to create a enemy on their own boarder where before they got along for the most part? Not to mention making Russia and business with-in bad investment and encouraging the EU to start looking else where for gas needs? All in exchange for a plot of land, this is a good deal?

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05-28-2014, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by Antonio

Putin pretty much showed that he can steal land from any country that is not in NATO, is this what you call "good for Russia?"

Course it's not good and course he is an asshole. The problem is... Crimea citizens. They wanted to be annexed. Nuf said, right?

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05-28-2014, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

Course it's not good and course he is an asshole. The problem is... Crimea citizens. They wanted to be annexed. Nuf said, right?

50% of the Russians want to live in the US. Run a referendum in Russia city by city and you are going to lose half your territory.

Borders exist for a reason; I guess Putin didn't really pay attention in geography classes.
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05-28-2014, 01:53 PM

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but judging by election results from previous years and what kind of support Yanukovich had, this area - east Ukraine doesnt support new ukrainian gov. at all....

I don't consider this a "new" government at all. That's like a new US President taking office and a handful of people in Texas deciding they don't like it and trying to take over state buildings.

The former President tried to tilt towards Moscow and the rest of the population didn't like it, so he was legally removed from office by the government itself.

I am guessing the majority of Ukrainians want to be tilting more towards Europe and the EU than Russia; Europe is the standard all countries wish to achieve while Russia seems to be forty years behind the curve.

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05-28-2014, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Antonio

50% of the Russians want to live in the US. Run a referendum in Russia city by city and you are going to lose half your territory.

Borders exist for a reason; I guess Putin didn't really pay attention in geography classes.

Barely geography but borders established by the law.

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05-28-2014, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

Course it's not good and course he is an asshole. The problem is... Crimea citizens. They wanted to be annexed. Nuf said, right?

Actually it was shown that it was a very close 50/50 vote and Russia lied about the result that they made public. Meaning it might of been even less people whom wanted to be Annexed than 50%. Showing that it was not a clear majority.

There was no neutral third party to oversee the vote either, which is why Russia got away with the lie until the vote results were made public.

ie the problem was Russia stealing Ukraine's land.

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05-28-2014, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

My wife is 25% Ukrainian, 25% Polish (by her mother) and 50% Russian (by her father), and you know, we have no problems at all

I would kill myself if I had a wife with that much crazy in her. Every single Polish / Ukranian / Russian bird i've ever met is absolutely fucking bananas and not to mention has an insane logic(far worse than normal insane chics) and temper...

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05-28-2014, 03:23 PM

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it's terrorists, not separatists

those aren't ukrainian people which want to separate, but ruskie citizens, paramilitary and former special forces of ruskie army. including chechens ruskie have had a war with a few years ago

and in Syria, foreigners are REBELS .... lol ....

I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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05-28-2014, 05:56 PM

Those are bad ass separatists or pro-russian rebels

Ukraine good luck

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05-28-2014, 07:17 PM

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05-28-2014, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by CAHEK

Those are bad ass separatists or pro-russian rebels

Ukraine good luck

not bad ass, just irrational people wasting their ammunitions
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05-28-2014, 10:12 PM

let´s see how Pootin deals with this

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05-28-2014, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by Antonio

All of them are richer than Russia except the last two that joined the EU. It is kinda sad actually

All of them? Do you mean Poland? Bulgaria? Latvia? Hungary? Maybe Romania? They they all are poorer than Russia. Here you go for the numbers: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/...-last&sort=asc

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05-28-2014, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by crockett

Actually it was shown that it was a very close 50/50 vote and Russia lied about the result that they made public. Meaning it might of been even less people whom wanted to be Annexed than 50%. Showing that it was not a clear majority.

There was no neutral third party to oversee the vote either, which is why Russia got away with the lie until the vote results were made public.

ie the problem was Russia stealing Ukraine's land.

Shown where? But somehow no clashes, kills, devastation and all that mess coming when you try to force things like "stealing land" (that is your definition).

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05-28-2014, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Antonio

50% of the Russians want to live in the US.

LOL, who did told you that bullshit? Those who wanted to live in the States already live there. Those who don't, stay here. Please don't confuse Russia with poor countries like Namibia, Moldova or Bulgaria. Those would prefer live anywhere but not in their own countries. For example, I'm Russian and I live in Russia. Now what about you?

Originally posted by Antonio

Run a referendum in Russia city by city and you are going to lose half your territory.

It seems you have some secret information which is unavailable to me here. Could you please share it with us? Which exactly territories will leave Russia and where will the go? What exactly advantages they will gain in such a case?

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05-28-2014, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

All of them? Do you mean Poland? Bulgaria? Latvia? Hungary? Maybe Romania? They they all are poorer than Russia. Here you go for the numbers: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/...-last&sort=asc

As I said, all of them but two:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...PP)_per_capita

GDP per capita 2014

Poland Russia
22,201 18,408

Hungary Russia
20,817 18,408

Latvia Russia
20,204 18,408

murder rate - 2-3 times higher in Russia
corruption - 2-3 times higher in Russia
democracy - flawed democracy in most, none in Russia

and so on...

With massive population and tons of oil and gas, you should have been at least as developed as the Czech.
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05-28-2014, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by crockett

Actually it was shown that it was a very close 50/50 vote and Russia lied about the result that they made public.

Do you personally know any Crimean citizen who is not happy joining Russia? I know many Crimeans. They never felt themselves as Ukrainian citizens. That's just FYI

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05-28-2014, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by georgeyw

I would kill myself if I had a wife with that much crazy in her. Every single Polish / Ukranian / Russian bird i've ever met is absolutely fucking bananas and not to mention has an insane logic(far worse than normal insane chics) and temper...

Maybe because... you are a looser?

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05-28-2014, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Antonio

As I said, all of them but two:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...PP)_per_capita

GDP per capita 2014

Poland Russia
22,201 18,408

Sorry to disappoint you but World Bank is much more trustful source than Wikipedia

Bulgaria: 6,977 and down.
Hungary: 12,560 and down.
Poland: 12,710 and down.
Russian Federation: 14,037 and up.

Nuf said

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05-28-2014, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by Antonio

With massive population and tons of oil and gas, you should have been at least as developed as the Czech.

Massive population is always a negative factor for economics. If Russian population was comparable with say Canadian one, the GDP per capita would be much higher. The one must not be a rocket scientist to understand it.

As about Czech Republic. Yes, right now its GDP per capita = 18,690 which is higher than in Russia, but it's seriously down, so just wait for a few years and compare again

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05-28-2014, 11:52 PM

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Massive population is always a negative factor for economics. If Russian population was comparable with say Canadian one, the GDP per capita would be much higher. The one must not be a rocket scientist to understand it.

you just saved me time to write something what should be obvious. Also, extreme size of country with 11 time zones is also a factor ( different cultures and religions that need to be controlled,managed, satisfied)

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05-29-2014, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by femdomdestiny

you just saved me time to write something what should be obvious. Also, extreme size of country with 11 time zones is also a factor ( different cultures and religions that need to be controlled,managed, satisfied)

Plus our cold weather. We can't live in cardboard houses like most Americans do. The country spends a lot on heating and on transportation and on infrastructure support. Russia is very huge and you somehow need to transport people, goods, food, gas, electricity etc through the whole territory. As I said already, a weather here is not a fun. In continental Russia the temperature may fluctuate from -40C (winter) to +40C (summer). Even the road surface can't withstand this.

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05-29-2014, 12:55 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

And the list of highly developed countries now include Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Lithuania, Latvia and all former communist countries, but the last two that joined the EU. Russia is nowhere to be found on that list, go figure.
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05-29-2014, 12:57 AM

The Ukrainian national guards have got a right to kill those who denied to shoot at civilians. According to various sources (e.g. http://strategia-22.livejournal.com/11369.html), 10 troops of the Ukrainian internal forces were executed by the national guards

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05-29-2014, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

Sorry to disappoint you but World Bank is much more trustful source than Wikipedia

Bulgaria: 6,977 and down.
Hungary: 12,560 and down.
Poland: 12,710 and down.
Russian Federation: 14,037 and up.

Nuf said

In fact, the GDP per capita (PPP) is what gives you the most accurate way of comparison. You don't have to take my word for it, Google it if you want to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...PP)_per_capita

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05-29-2014, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by Antonio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

Once again: World Bank is a reliable source. Wikipedia - is not. Trust to the numbers (GDP per capita is the best measure) but not to politically engaged articles like you posted above. All these ranks are bullshit. E.g. the USA is a developed country but there is no free higher education nor free medicine. Don't know about you, but I would prefer to live in my developing country and pay only 6% tax for all, rather than there.

P.S. You haven't answered to my question. What's your national origin (the country you were born and got a citizenship in) and where do you live now? Answer to my question please to make it clear.

Thank you in advance!

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05-29-2014, 01:39 AM

About 100 Ukrainian soldiers in Lugansk have surrendered to military militia of Lugansk (video): http://lifenews.ru/news/134029

You can call it as you want, but I see a real civil war in the Ukraine - the consequences of the Maydan revolution which was heated and backed up by the USA and EU

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05-29-2014, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

Once again: World Bank is a reliable source. Wikipedia - is not. Trust to the numbers (GDP per capita is the best measure) but not to politically engaged articles like you posted above.

Yes, GDP per capita, PPP. Wikipedia data is pulled from IMF, World Bank, and CIA. The numbers differ, but paint similar picture.

Originally posted by CyberSEO

All these ranks are bullshit. E.g. the USA is a developed country but there is no free higher education nor free medicine. Don't know about you, but I would prefer to live in my developing country and pay only 6% tax for all, rather than there.

Which is why you use HDI (or even better the HDI adjusted for inequality) to measure the quality of life - it takes into account GDP per capita, education, life expectancy, etc.

And here you are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index

Originally posted by CyberSEO

P.S. You haven't answered to my question. What's your national origin (the country you were born and got a citizenship in) and where do you live now? Answer to my question please to make it clear. Thank you in advance!

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05-29-2014, 04:06 AM

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05-29-2014, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by Antonio

Yes, GDP per capita, PPP. Wikipedia data is pulled from IMF, World Bank, and CIA. The numbers differ, but paint similar picture.

Which is why you use HDI (or even better the HDI adjusted for inequality) to measure the quality of life - it takes into account GDP per capita, education, life expectancy, etc.

And here you are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...elopment_Index

Bulgarian living in Bulgaria

dont bother arguing with cyberseo on economic issues, he lives in his Moscow bubble and thinks that whole Russia is like Moscow :-)
another easy example - look how the typical small village looks like in Switzerland, Germany, Czech, Poland and look how it looks like in Ukraine, Russia or Georgia.....
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05-29-2014, 05:03 AM

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05-29-2014, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by Antonio

Yes, GDP per capita, PPP. Wikipedia data is pulled from IMF, World Bank, and CIA. The numbers differ, but paint similar picture.

The whole picture can be seen in the official report of World Bank. Anyways, there are other factors beside the numbers. Let me show you another example. As far as you nay know, Moscow is one of the most expensive places in the World. Do you seriously think that such an city can be located in a poor country (say Botswana, Nigеria, Bangladesh, Nicaragua, Ecuador, Bulgaria, Indonesia or Colombia) ? How do you think all those "poor" can afford living there? Sometimes its good to use a simple logic.

Originally posted by Antonio

Bulgarian living in Bulgaria

So right now you are physically located in Bulgaria. Did I get it right?

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05-29-2014, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by klinton

dont bother arguing with cyberseo on economic issues, he lives in his Moscow bubble and thinks that whole Russia is like Moscow :-)

I live in Moscow not too long, actually. So I know what I'm talking about.

Originally posted by klinton

another easy example - look how the typical small village looks like in Switzerland, Germany, Czech, Poland and look how it looks like in Ukraine, Russia or Georgia.....

Just FYI: there are no villages in Russia. They all are dead. The consequences of industrialization.

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05-29-2014, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

Do you personally know any Crimean citizen who is not happy joining Russia? I know many Crimeans. They never felt themselves as Ukrainian citizens. That's just FYI

If there was no question about how they would vote, then why not allow international third party observers in? Why not, because Russia rigged the vote, as what was shown when the real numbers were released. If there was nothing to hide, then why hide?

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05-29-2014, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by CyberSEO

About 100 Ukrainian soldiers in Lugansk have surrendered to military militia of Lugansk (video): http://lifenews.ru/news/134029

You can call it as you want, but I see a real civil war in the Ukraine - the consequences of the Maydan revolution which was heated and backed up by the USA and EU

Let me guess poor innocent Russia was just caught in the middle...l

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#100

05-29-2014, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by crockett

Let me guess poor innocent Russia was just caught in the middle...

I have no idea. Hope you know it better ;)

Originally posted by crockett

If there was no question about how they would vote, then why not allow international third party observers in?

Actually they did.

Contrary to the reports of 135 international observers from 23 countries, the Western media in chorus has suggested without a shred of evidence that the elections were rigged and that Crimea was under Russian military occupation.
The observer mission reports which include members of the European Parliament have been casually ignored by the mainstream Western media: Mateus Piskorkski, the leader of the European observers’ mission and Polish MP: “Our observers have not registered any violations of voting rules.”

Educate yourself: http://digitaljournal.com/news/polit...article/377812

Originally posted by crockett

Why not, because Russia rigged the vote, as what was shown when the real numbers were released. If there was nothing to hide, then why hide?

Why Russia? Why not the USA or Uganda? Do you have any proof? Share with us please.

P.S. You didn't answered to my question. How many Crimeans do you know personally?

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