!!! Looks like someone owes me a check.

Hey Rick... Whats uuup!

Yeah, you guys were some of the earlier MPA2 clients we had - actually before the new VISA fees came and took the online adult community by storm. Good deal! ;)

Is it making you money these days? Whats the scoop?



I also have another comment to the post from gothweb - Remember that if you only used ONE of any of the processors in the cascading as your one and only processor, and they accepted a presented credit card. Then it is a good transaction, right? :winkwink:

The only problem I would have with that type of program offering a "lease to own" feature is this...

When an affiliate gets a sale through a third party like CCBill or IBill, their money is there at that company and will be sent on time, every time (usually!)

However, when an affiliate signs up for a sponsor that uses multiple billing through a cascade script or their own affiliate system, the affiliate then has to rely on the sponsor cutting the check rather than the 3rd party biller.

In other words, (unless I'm mistaken) using a cascading script like this drops the responsibility of check mailouts into the hands of the people running the system rather than on the 3rd party billers. Lowering the cost of a cascading script (even by offering a lease to own option) would put that script in the hands of more and more webmasters, many of whom could not otherwise afford the several thousand dollar price tag of that script. Think about why that may not be such a good thing.

I've been researching the MPA2 system for about a week and a half. Different scenarios, other solutions available and implementing what I already have established with the Oystein's solution.

Verdict - The MPA2 solution packs a punch! Oystein... you'll be hearing from me tomorrow ;)

Hey Jak,

Yes, we are making it possible for smaller webmasters to get into the space of owing their own true affiliate program that has features from A to Z, and that does represent certain "dangers", however, I have it as my own feel on this

OOOPS.... pressed a wrong button... here is the rest of my sentence:

...and that is to always contact the owners of an affiliate program and get to know them BEFORE sending them lots of traffic. Reputation is everything...

SiMpLe - - Thank you so much. I am happy to hear that!

Talk to you tomorrow ;)

Hey Oystein,

We have been keeping an eye on this thread....I must say your program is great! Please don't hesitate to contact us here at Epoch with any questions on it, (888) 627-3888 ext. 207 or you can always icq me.

[email protected]

Hey thanks Isabel...

OK, so anyone with questions regarding MPA2 can also contact Epoch directly with any questions they may have about MPA2 or Epoch.

Hey, guys... Isabel is really cute too, so be sure to contact her for deals with Epoch! :winkwink:

OY! WAS SUP!!!!!!!! Everyone ready for AZ???
Ok my question of the hour is this.....
How hard is it to implement into a current webmaster program?
Are there going to be alot of changes one would have to make to their program to get this up and running? And I had another one but I dont remember now.....

Hey Wiseman..... Of course I am going to Phoenix. Love the town, food, the drinks, the hosts, the golf, and of course hanging out with you, Hooper and the gang...

As for your question - The webmasters that implement MPA2 and already have another program simply choose to move over to it because of all the features and better signup ratio it has. The typical qualm some webmasters have then is the change of linking codes and to make existing webasters re-sign up for their program, and what we say and see is that this is just another opportunity to go out to existing affiliates and promote the fact that you and them will make MUCH MORE MONEY together once they do it. It has worked like a charm so far.

We do a clean install, and we do have plenty of capabilities to import substantial amounts of information from your old databases too. It is full day or two of pure installation on your server + if any customizations are ordered this will of course come on top of that. All prepared and scheduled a couple of weeks prior to installation.

Did this answer your question?

Anyone else with any questions?

Don't be shy now!

See you in the bar in Phoenix man!

See ya in Arizona...

Oh yeah almost forgot

MPA2 ROCKS!!!

Rick, now we can split the check - hhehehe

l8

CYA there! ;))

What if a company is EU based where the VISA regs don´t apply
do we get $2250 discount on the setup fee?

DynaMite

Any plans to support Globill?

Oystein, just wanted to let you know, things are moving ahead as planned. I will be in touch in a day or 2

MPA2 does rokk :glugglug

OK. Let me take this one by one:

DynaSpain - Initially when we came out and said that we would cover these VISA fees we were thinking about doing it for a short period of time to relief the individual webmaster a little for all the fees, rules and regulations that at the time were just thrown at us from all directions. It was our way of showing that we understood the webmasters frustrations, and of course also an excellent way for us to further promote MPA2 with a big bang. I mean, over 2K in savings is pretty good...

However, the price was the same before the VISA fees came in place as it still is today, and due to the amount of work it is for us to set the program up for each individual client, we still have to charge the setup fee.

But don't worry - if you do 20 signups a day today, you will easily do 24 - 30 signups the day MPA2 is implemented, so you will make it back in no time. :winkwink:

Ok, no to:

AmeliaG - We have no immediate plans to implement GloBill unless we are being asked specifically by a new client to do so. (Customization work) That is actually a great question for GloBill - - - we have several processors that are very very interested in being implemented as we speak.

We are very happy with Epoch, CCBill and PSW so far and Electracash and NoCreditCard is working very good for checks and dialer.

Time will tell... :thumbsup

dantheman -

Sounds very good man! Thanks a bunch for the props! I looove props! :)

And just for you : :GFYBand

Lowering the cost of a cascading script (even by offering a lease to own option) would put that script in the hands of more and more webmasters, many of whom could not otherwise afford the several thousand dollar price tag of that script. Think about why that may not be such a good thing.

I understand the amount of work, etc, etc but I somehow feel
"discriminated" because of this. You promote that the $2500
includes VISA regs and these do not apply for me.

I need at least some sort of incentive to make me feel good about this....so come up with a little sumfing-sumfing for us
poor Europeans so we can clap hands and make a deal.

The ball is in your court again :winkwink:

DynaMite :thumbsup

DynaMite - I do have a weakness for "poor" Europeans, being one myself... Thus living in the US...

So I just sent you a proposal ;-)

LMK what you think...

:winkwink:

I just got a message back from the EU commity and they have
told me the EU is proud of you for making such a nice offer.

*Clap* done deal

DynaMite :thumbsup

Great thread Oystein.

I just wanted folks to know that Electracash sets up our side of MPA2 merchants same day. Everything from the contract to the product codes is done within the same work day, so you can get to your MPA2 implementation without waiting on us.

Contact us via,
www.ELECTRACASH.COM/APPLY.aspx

[email protected]

or call me directly at 901-866-2185

Our work over the last year with Mansion has been wonderful, and there are few instances I can use that word.

Fitzit

i had the same wonderance....

(is wonderance even a word?)

DaDee amd KmanRox - I don't think that will be a problem. It is still not free, and I think the entry level is set to a decent level. BUT, make sure to always check up on ANY program you send traffic to no matter what. That has always been my motto...


Fitzit - Thanks Fitz... Looks like webmasters need more information about this, so the thread is working as a tool for everyone. As well as giving us some good exposure. Getting several new clients that clearly sees the huge value in a full end to end affiliate program with true cascading solution. :)

Hey, as long as this is a spam thread, check out WayPay.com. They handle multiple processors for you and you don't have to install anything on your servers.

Cogitator - Looks good man...

Anyone else with working solutions that has a question?



:)

Oystein i use cascading program ICQ me

Hey Darren - - Check your ICQ


If there are other webmasters that are attending the Phoenix Forum that would like to talk more about this, email me and we can sit down. I will buy the beer...

:)

Any program doing any volume at all and wanting to use more than one processor should be using MPA2.

I know these guys and I know who uses the prgram and I've heard nothing but good stuff.

You WILL make more money.

If you're going to be in Phoenix, be sure to get with Oystein for the details.

See you in Phoenix.



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Thanks Rand, always good to have backup from you guys! Our clients (which are yours too) have been very very happy with your performance throughout. Integration seems seemless, and from what I heard the EZ Click cross sell (which is integrated into MPA2) is kicking som serious ass...

I look forward to seeing you in Phoenix, and for anyone that wants to sit down with us both, email me or Rand and we will make it happen...

Shit... how about a bump so that more people can understand the importance of using more than just one processor for their websites...

It works good, photoshop runs alot faster that way :winkwink:

Exactly ;)

That is such bullshit, if you are registered with Visa then you should be registered with Visa.

tony404 - I agree... However, rules are rules, and we make it easier for you by paying the fees. So that should help quite a lot...

As far as I know, we are the only ones to sponsor that much just to get you as a client. That is how much we believe in our product - we pay $2,250.00 just to get you to use MPA2 - Anyone beat that???

Oy---

Anyone???

That's what I thought. No one can beat or even match it...

Oh well... :321GFY

:winkwink:

Tony,

When you have your own merchant account, you only have to register once. It does not matter what processor you use in that case.

Mitch

Ahem....use waypay.com. No software to install and no huge upfront fees.

Cogitator - WayPay looks pretty good. Are you using it? It so, tell me more about their functionalities. Also, I noticed that they use third party billing companies in their solution, so the VISA fee must be paid for each one of the ISPS's the webmaster use in the cascading. What other up front cost than the 3 x 750 do you have to pay? I couldnt't find any pricing for the program except for the "per transaction" fee... ?

NetBilling is correct. Use your own merchant account and pay no VISA fee. Netbilling is being implemented into MPA2 as we speak.

Mitch, any specials for MPA2/NetBilling clients? ;)

MPA2/Netbilling Clients will get no Netbilling setup fee. This will save them $199. However, there still is the Visa/Mastercard registration fee for their merchant account when applicable.

Mitch

Mitch,

Perfect. That is an additional $200 that webmasters will save when using MPA2. Very nice!

So now a total savings of $3 x $750 for VISA fees for Epoch, CCBill and PSW that Mansion Productions will cover if you have not set up accounts or paid the VISA fee with them.

An additional $200 waiver of setup fee from Netbilling when using MPA2!

A total of $2,450.00 in saved fees!!! Whooohoo!

I must say that we are really working with the best processors in the industry. All compliant and all making the webmasters more money, especially when using MPA2...

Anyone out there beat that???



:GFYBand

Mansion,

When will the Netbilling setup be done? We are interested as they are our primary and we have been thinking of using you program.

Sputter

Sputter - Sounds good. It is scheduled to be done early May. Send me an email to [email protected] and I will notify and get you up and running. :-)

Anyone else in here considering to use NetBilling? Now is your time to stand up... :winkwink:

I'm also europeen... email me that DynaSpain deal at [email protected] and I will take a look.

You got it... Look for a mail in the next few hours ;)

I cant believe I had to bump this... webmasters should be asking me questions left and right!!! ;-) :Buck:

If you have your own merchant account will the cc info also be passed? I would think that would be allowed.

When using your own merchant account there are still certain regulations you will need to follow according to VISA. As long as you are compliant according to your agreement with the merchant bank you have your account with, that will suffice.

:)