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TCLGirls 05-25-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20099765)
He was actually seeing numerous therapists - going back several years. There was a long history of it.

not to mention he was seeing one of his therapists on a DAILY BASIS...thats fuckin' nuts right there.

johnny o 05-25-2014 05:21 PM

MOAR GUNZ is CLEARLY the answer

GregE 05-25-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20099761)
My point exactly. Keep denying the problem at hand.

He's not denying anything. That is in fact the law.

Now a good argument could be made that there should be exceptions written into the law so as to hopefully screen out nutjobs like this shooter.

But then again, if we do that many gun owners who should get counseling will avoid it for fear of losing their guns and/or (even worse) having their employers become aware of such.

There are no one size fits all answers here.

Rochard 05-25-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 20099684)
Not a bad idea but, all the people I have know to get the "involuntary psychiatric hold" get out in a few days with a prescription and a list of dates for some classes.

Exactly... And then when they finish their classes they are evaluated and then it should be determined if they should be allowed to have access to firearms. They remain in the mental health system until they are released by a doctor as being okay and only then should they be cleared to own firearms.

This is not an issue about rights. While we have rights, and we have the right to "bear arms", this is in fact subject to restriction. For example, felons are not allowed to own firearms. We do not allow felons to own firearms because we consider them to be a risk to society when armed. People with mental health issues are also a threat to society when armed.

I have a friend who has a kid who is mentally ill. The kid is twenty-five, He lives in assisted housing, has a job, but cannot drive. He will never rise above being a bus boy, but his parents are thrilled that he can live on his own (or close to it). This twenty-five year old retarded man should not be allowed to own firearms yet there is no law stopping him from buying and owning a firearm. That's fucking scary.

brassmonkey 05-25-2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny o (Post 20099780)
MOAR GUNZ is CLEARLY the answer

Tobacco kills more you see a ban on it? :2 cents:

Rochard 05-25-2014 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20099765)
He was actually seeing numerous therapists - going back several years. There was a long history of it.

And yet no one said anything.

This is very simple.... The moment he applied to permit to own firearms his doctor should have been notified. Don't tell me they can't, it's a searchable database and they can see very doctor someone has ever talked to. They call up the shrink and ask if there is any reason why this person shouldn't have a firearm and when the doctor explains why the permit is denied, end of story.

I have a friend of mine who has mental issues and owns firearms. He goes to church every Sunday but wants to move out of California because Obama is "going to take his guns away". Setting aside the mental issues, he's got two ex-wives, two kids that were raised without him and don't talk to him, he is constantly sick, pissed off, bitter, and hasn't gotten laid in twenty years. No problem - he owns an assault rifle.

Fuck 'em. Give them all firearms. Let god sort them out.

Rochard 05-25-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20099927)
Tobacco kills more you see a ban on it? :2 cents:

The difference is tobacco slowly kills the person using it, not twenty people instantly.

But come to think of it we should ban it. I smoked for twenty years of my life and quit about five years ago. I'm kicking myself now - I can't believe I was stupid enough to inject that shit into my system for so long.

brassmonkey 05-25-2014 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20099930)
The difference is tobacco slowly kills the person using it, not twenty people instantly.

But come to think of it we should ban it. I smoked for twenty years of my life and quit about five years ago. I'm kicking myself now - I can't believe I was stupid enough to inject that shit into my system for so long.

well about 1300 died today from cigs. monday 1300 more :Oh crap


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