Practice... :winkwink:

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ADG

view this map and you can get a better idea of how the forest borders phx and even continues south past phx. That greenery had a profound impact on the region and the massive wildfires there over the last decade (2 of the biggest in the U.S. even) have wiped out a lot of forest there.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Fo...e57cfcbfd 37f


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check this shit out!

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In 2002, the Rodeo-Chediski fire consumed 469,000 acres of pine and mixed conifer on the Mogollon Rim, not far from Phoenix. It was an ecological holocaust that no one expected to see surpassed. Only nine years later, in 2011, the Wallow fire picked up the torch, so to speak, and burned across the Rim all the way to the New Mexico border and beyond, topping out at 538,000 charred acres.

Now, nobody thinks such fires are one-off flukes. Diligent modeling of forest response to rising temperatures and increased moisture stress suggests, in fact, that these two fires were harbingers of worse to come. By mid-century, according to a paper by an A-team of Southwestern forest ecologists, the ?normal? stress on trees will equal that of the worst megadroughts in the region?s distant paleo-history, when most of the trees in the area simply died.

oh ok :) you said phoenix forest maybe another city.


Phoenix, Arizona
Phoenix, Illinois
Phoenix, Louisiana
Phoenix, Maryland
Phoenix, Michigan
Phoenix, New York
Phoenix, Oregon

phoenix oregon i bet is forest



i dont need a map dogg

oh man . . .

Simple solution? No, simple mind. Try doing some research.

your state baddog

http://naturalresources.house.gov/is.../?IssueID=5921 :)

you probably think aliens took it :1orglaugh

I know this is gfy but why on earth are you trying to gotcha me over this? I mean if I ever had a reason to go into my gonna rub your nose in your post mode, this would be one.

I'm refraining from that because I'm trying to keep to the topic of drought and the issues resulting.


:2 fucking cents:

Well said!

It's a global problem buddy, this is happening all over the world. Huge areas of the worlds water reserves are drying up. It's one of these major world issues that no one is really talking about because there isn't a solution. The problem will continue to get worse as the worlds population continues to increase.

That's the elephant in the room...

Only a matter of time before we start having wars over water, we're headed towards the perfect storm. The Middle East is fucked!

Water is life :2 cents:

man never forget your fucking rambles :1orglaugh

cool, don't forget the one just above, the one about the forest fires on the rim outside phx. :1orglaugh

btw, it's 102f here right now.

I don't understand why there's an argument over whether there are forests outside Phoenix. Tonto NF doesn't have endless miles of misty old-growth redwoods, but there are most definitely pine forests in the higher elevations. There's even a small timber industry in the area IIRC.

Excellent article by The Guardian about the global water shortages and the long term implications

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...eat-terror-war

A couple of quotes

That's quite a statement!

Regions at risk

1) California
2) Brazil
3) Middle East
4) North Africa
5) South Asia
6) China

why just california and not all of the US? i thought North America / US had huge aquifer issues?

In parts of the world a coke costs more than a bottle of water.

It's true, but that southwestern quarter of the USA is going to be at the forefront of this crisis. When shit goes down for reals they'll feel it a generation or two before everyone else.

I wonder how much water that nuke plant outside phx sucks up? I think that's all siphoned off the colorado also, can't recall there being any rivers at that site. Pretty sure that's one of the biggest, if not biggest, nuke plants in US. nuts.

water will be the ultimate divider.

I didn't write the article :)

Perhaps those listed where in the most trouble atm, I dunno!

Yup :disgust

It's a real fuckin shame we haven't evolved enough to work together as a species towards a common goal. Too busy trying to find ways to fuck each other over in the short term not realising we're just fucking everyone in the long run.

Desalinization is much more expensive and only available to areas bordering large bodies of natural water. More R&D needs to be done with Atmospheric water generators that can extract water vapor from air into drinkable water. Consumer models are available for $1-2k. With larger economies of scale, the prices would drop enough for them to be affordable for most non-3rd world households. However, someone needs to design industrial sized machines capable of generating enough water for agriculture and irrigation.

No pics of "Lake Travis"?

We live in Bee Cave a few minutes away, pretty sad...

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