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dyna mo 05-15-2014 01:41 PM

btw, it's 102f here right now.

deltav 05-15-2014 01:45 PM

I don't understand why there's an argument over whether there are forests outside Phoenix. Tonto NF doesn't have endless miles of misty old-growth redwoods, but there are most definitely pine forests in the higher elevations. There's even a small timber industry in the area IIRC.

Paul 05-15-2014 01:48 PM

Excellent article by The Guardian about the global water shortages and the long term implications

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...eat-terror-war

A couple of quotes

Quote:

The United Arab Emirates, faced with a growing population, has invested in desalination projects and is harvesting rainwater. At an international water conference in Abu Dhabi last year, Crown Prince General Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan said: "For us, water is [now] more important than oil."
That's quite a statement!

Quote:

The losses of water reserves are staggering. In seven years, beginning in 2003, parts of Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran along the Tigris and Euphrates rivers lost 144 cubic kilometres of stored freshwater ? or about the same amount of water in the Dead Sea, according to data compiled by the Grace mission and released last year.
Quote:

"We are standing on a cliff looking over the edge and we have to decide what we are going to do," he said.

"Are we just going to plunge into this next epic drought and tremendous, never-before-seen rates of groundwater depletion, or are we going to buckle down and start thinking of managing critical reserve for the long term? We are standing on a precipice here."
Regions at risk

1) California
2) Brazil
3) Middle East
4) North Africa
5) South Asia
6) China

_Richard_ 05-15-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 20088213)
Excellent article by The Guardian about the global water shortages and the long term implications

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...eat-terror-war

A couple of quotes



That's quite a statement!





Regions at risk

1) California
2) Brazil
3) Middle East
4) North Africa
5) South Asia
6) China

why just california and not all of the US? i thought North America / US had huge aquifer issues?

scubadiver626 05-15-2014 02:10 PM

In parts of the world a coke costs more than a bottle of water.

deltav 05-15-2014 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20088219)
why just california and not all of the US? i thought North America / US had huge aquifer issues?

It's true, but that southwestern quarter of the USA is going to be at the forefront of this crisis. When shit goes down for reals they'll feel it a generation or two before everyone else.

dyna mo 05-15-2014 02:25 PM

I wonder how much water that nuke plant outside phx sucks up? I think that's all siphoned off the colorado also, can't recall there being any rivers at that site. Pretty sure that's one of the biggest, if not biggest, nuke plants in US. nuts.

dyna mo 05-15-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 20088213)
Excellent article by The Guardian about the global water shortages and the long term implications

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...eat-terror-war



Quote:

The Pacific Institute, which studies issues of water and global security, found a fourfold increase in violent confrontations over water over the last decade. "
water will be the ultimate divider.

Paul 05-15-2014 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20088219)
why just california and not all of the US? i thought North America / US had huge aquifer issues?

I didn't write the article :)

Perhaps those listed where in the most trouble atm, I dunno!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20088249)
water will be the ultimate divider.

Yup :disgust

It's a real fuckin shame we haven't evolved enough to work together as a species towards a common goal. Too busy trying to find ways to fuck each other over in the short term not realising we're just fucking everyone in the long run.

InfoGuy 05-15-2014 04:16 PM

Desalinization is much more expensive and only available to areas bordering large bodies of natural water. More R&D needs to be done with Atmospheric water generators that can extract water vapor from air into drinkable water. Consumer models are available for $1-2k. With larger economies of scale, the prices would drop enough for them to be affordable for most non-3rd world households. However, someone needs to design industrial sized machines capable of generating enough water for agriculture and irrigation.

barelist 05-16-2014 03:28 AM

No pics of "Lake Travis"?

We live in Bee Cave a few minutes away, pretty sad...

http://lintvkxan.files.wordpress.com...2014.jpg?w=650


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