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  • fuzebox
    making it rain
    • Oct 2003
    • 22351

    #16
    Originally posted by suesheboy
    Guess I must be old school.
    There's old school, and then there's out of touch. People still like to do business face to face, over the phone, and fly in for meetings... But random anonymous phone calls to their website's toll free number isn't going to get that ball rolling

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    • suesheboy
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2002
      • 5211

      #17
      Originally posted by fuzebox
      There's old school, and then there's out of touch. People still like to do business face to face, over the phone, and fly in for meetings... But random anonymous phone calls to their website's toll free number isn't going to get that ball rolling
      1) Understood however I called the non toll free number listed under contact us.

      2) Called them for their specified service.

      3) Was never asked for my email address if they needed that. They could have had whoever answers the phone call me back to have gotten it.

      If you can't get returning a phone call right, how would you handle a customers problem?
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      • PornDiscounts-V
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2003
        • 5744

        #18
        Dude. They are already sitting in the pool drinking margaritas. Work is done, bro! It is Friday. Don't hate the player, hate the game!
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        • iwantchixx
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Oct 2002
          • 12860

          #19
          business is business, if companies ignore any form of contact, they are not doing themselves any justice.That golden egg could easily be missed.

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          • iwantchixx
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 12860

            #20
            Originally posted by suesheboy
            1)

            If you can't get returning a phone call right, how would you handle a customers problem?
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            • ahoy
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2003
              • 512

              #21
              Originally posted by JimmyStephans
              I'm on the side that doesn't accept cold calls or messages. There are too many of them daily.

              While the person calling feels he is important and feels he has a good idea... the business on the receiving side gets so many calls that they simply can't return them.

              My toll-free number has been online about 17 years. I get maybe 15-18 calls each day trying to sell me something. If I spent just 5 minutes with each it is over an hour each day listening to them propose something they think is great but I may not need.

              Each minute spent dealing with them is a minute taken away from customer service, building traffic, etc.

              Just ten minutes ago I got such a call saying they could lower my merchant fees (but we know from experience they don't handle adult so waste of time)... and before that some body calls and says "I'd like to talk to the owner" and I ask what they are selling and who they wish to talk to... they have no idea who the owner is... they just call every number they can find.

              No, no, no.... I can't give over an hour each day to cold callers or returning the message they leave.

              The original poster here sounds as if he feels his message is they only message they may have gotten that day. The truth is, those with a business phone number get dozens of calls and messages daily from unknown people with ideas they think are great and should demand attention.

              Best approach - clear, detailed, professional letters. On paper if possible. Addressed by name to the person you wish to speak to. Then he can review it and decide if it is interesting enough to dedicate time to. Or, second choice, email that is professional. Clear, well typed, correct spelling.
              Snail mail letter best approach?! Lol! Did you shut your business down in the 90s?

              Email #1by far. A letter...lol...

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              • JesseQuinn
                feeding the wolves
                • Aug 2012
                • 6617

                #22
                the state of B2C is pretty dire as well

                I'm in the process of moving and starting a new venture. I contacted 9 real estate companies in my destination country to find long term accommodations. In my contact I included our full names, name of company my dude will be working for, biz title, our very generous budget. One agent got back to us.

                Go to book flights and find out our regular travel agent is away on a conference. We're eager to book the tickets so we decide to try someone new. We're abruptly told by the new agent that our airline of choice doesn't allow cats on flights to our destination country. Um, yeah they do. Chica has us take a seat and she goes out to get coffee before calling the airline to confirm that we were right. Guess who lost a commission and any chance of getting a call when we book flights for my entire family to come and visit. We waited until our regular agent got back and went through her.

                I set up an appointment with an account manager at a new bank to set up a very specific type of bank account my credit union doesn't offer, and also to transfer over my not-insignificant savings. Dude kept me waiting for 20 mins on the day of our appointment and tells me that the type of account I want to set up won't let me do what I need it to do. I leave in frustration, knowing he's incorrect. The next day I go back, speak to a regular teller and get the account set up exactly the way I need it. I need the account, no fucking way will I transfer my savings there though.

                So yeah, the human capacity for laziness and incompetence never ceases to astound me. At least that means people with drive, skill and intelligence will always succeed.
                Last edited by JesseQuinn; 05-16-2014, 03:33 PM.
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                • AaronM
                  GFY Royality ;)
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 46923

                  #23
                  Yesterday I called 8 pressure washing companies in Las Vegas around 2pm. The first 7 didn't answer the phone. The 8th one got my business because they did.

                  Any mainstream business who doesn't answer their phone during regular business hours will never get my business.

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                  • suesheboy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 5211

                    #24
                    Originally posted by AaronM
                    Any mainstream business who doesn't answer their phone during regular business hours will never get my business.
                    Maybe those kind of guys are working in the field and can't answer the phone, but did any call back (I bet the answer for most of not all was no).
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                    • martinsc
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 27047

                      #25
                      Originally posted by AaronM
                      Yesterday I called 8 pressure washing companies in Las Vegas around 2pm. The first 7 didn't answer the phone. The 8th one got my business because they did.

                      Any mainstream business who doesn't answer their phone during regular business hours will never get my business.
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                      • DBS.US
                        Geo Cities
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 11843

                        #26
                        I answer my unknown calls with "Hello, Backstage,,,,"
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                        • JimmyStephans
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 560

                          #27
                          Originally posted by AaronM
                          Yesterday I called 8 pressure washing companies in Las Vegas around 2pm. The first 7 didn't answer the phone. The 8th one got my business because they did.

                          Any mainstream business who doesn't answer their phone during regular business hours will never get my business.
                          I think this topic has taken a shift in direction.

                          The OP was discussing a message he left in a business to business situation and how he thinks the person that hasn't returned the call is ruining his own business by not accepting the call or offer.

                          That, B2B, situation is entirely different than a retail or business to customer (customer to business) situation.

                          Yes, if it is a customer or potential customer calling and leaving a message they should be called back in a reasonable time frame. The same goes for if a potential customer sends email, or completes an online form to get service or an estimate.

                          But, that (retail customer service) is entirely different than the boss of a company being told he must listen to every unsolicited business call, phone pitch, phone spammer, phone salesman, robo caller, etc.
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                          • JesseQuinn
                            feeding the wolves
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 6617

                            #28
                            Originally posted by JimmyStephans
                            I think this topic has taken a shift in direction
                            I think that was my fault, apologies

                            Originally posted by JimmyStephans
                            The OP was discussing a message he left in a business to business situation and how he thinks the person that hasn't returned the call is ruining his own business by not accepting the call or offer.

                            That, B2B, situation is entirely different than a retail or business to customer (customer to business) situation.
                            I do think there is a commonality in this case though, in that if a business is actively trying to recruit business (by advertising on gfy) then I wouldn't necessarily characterize the OP's attempt at contact on that tip as a cold call

                            Originally posted by JimmyStephans
                            that (retail customer service) is entirely different than the boss of a company being told he must listen to every unsolicited business call, phone pitch, phone spammer, phone salesman, robo caller, etc.
                            I completely agree with you on unsolicited sales pitches
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