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pimpmaster9000 05-07-2014 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20077763)
Because "big boys" you refer to are afraid of Gay people and don't allow cursing in music & TV right? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It's all propaganda. All of our governments do this. As common people we should not be so easily manipulated and be sure to keep our own minds :thumbsup

"afraid" of gay people? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the gay community would like to think that they are important and that they are something more than a bunch of self privileged fags who want special rights over normal people who do not hold "normal people parades" and "str8 pride" ect...

reality: putin is 100x the man obama is and does not have to bend over to the interests of the bible slappers or the "gay rights" or "pro choice" crap that is the US pre election circus...whether a man takes a penis up his ass has little to do with politics in russia, and rightfully so...

fuck gay parades...

2MuchMark 05-07-2014 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20077388)
Strong leader, Reagan, cold war ends

Weak leader, Obama, cold war starts back up

Lol. Typical Glen Beck Sean Hannity Right Wing simple minded ignorant bullshit. Even if you're joking, you sound ridiculous.

2MuchMark 05-07-2014 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20077803)
I got to tour the USS RONALD REAGAN when my daughter was assigned to it. Great ship and a force to be reckoned with!

That's pretty cool. Too bad it has such a shitty name though. ;)

2MuchMark 05-07-2014 05:59 AM

War Monger wet dream


dyna mo 05-07-2014 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20078480)
fact: your aircraft carriers and fancy planes are worth their weigh in scrap metal against bacteria...YES you would win IF they decided to fight you the ancient sticks and stones way...but only a stupid mother fucker without bacteria would fight you that way LOL

your military is only for 3rd world countries, americans have thin skin and are not ready for a real war of any type...

so a serbian telling me to prepare for russians using bacterial weapons in a military invasion of the US mainland

http://www.vote29.com/newmyblog/wp-c...8in-1978-1.jpg

dyna mo 05-07-2014 06:18 AM

I like how when the agenda fits crucivicso, Americans are war mongers who start wars all over the globe

but when the agenda does not fit, crucifficso simply changes his sophomoric rhetoric and claims Americans are not ready for war of any type.

brassmonkey 05-07-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20078586)
I like how when the agenda fits crucivicso, Americans are war mongers who start wars all over the globe

but when the agenda does not fit, crucifficso simply changes his sophomoric rhetoric and claims Americans are not ready for war of any type.

you in the usa?

Vendzilla 05-07-2014 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20078555)
Lol. Typical Glen Beck Sean Hannity Right Wing simple minded ignorant bullshit. Even if you're joking, you sound ridiculous.

You being the ignorant one, you do know that Putin tried this shit when Bush was in office and backed down?
Also, you think Putin would have even tried it when Reagan was in office?

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20078560)
That's pretty cool. Too bad it has such a shitty name though. ;)

This from a guy that lives in Canada?

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Can...90_4424683.jpg

Vendzilla 05-07-2014 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20078370)
There is a mistake in my post above (it was 2am here when I wrote it :)). Of course I was talking about cruise missiles (10 meters above the water, not under :)). So it doesn't have to be launched for a close distention. For example, the operational range of "Яхонт" (SS-N-26 Strobile) is 120..300 km. However its price is just uncomfortable with a price of aircraft carrier group.

Sorry for such a stupid confusion.

Russia has fallen behind in technology compared to the US, the anti-warfare systems aboard the carriers are very hard to get past, like I said before, the carrier controls the fire control systems of all the ships in the carrier group.

Cruise missiles have been around for a long time, my sub had the harpoon missile, subs now carry tomahawks.

pimpmaster9000 05-07-2014 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20078578)
so a serbian telling me to prepare for russians using bacterial weapons in a military invasion of the US mainland

http://www.vote29.com/newmyblog/wp-c...8in-1978-1.jpg

where did i mention ground invasion?...the russians would not stand a chance in a ground invasion...this is silly, why on earth would they attack the USA?

the point is: you are an american in an elevator with a russian...you have a fancy space age weapon and the russian has an old world war2 hand grenade with the pin pulled in his hand and a rusty knife in the other...if the russian decides he wants to stab you for fun, then there is not much you can do about it...

yes the whole world is in this imaginary elevator and will die from this imaginary grenade, but the real point is that I find your aircraft carriers and fancy weapons just as amusing as that machine that the church of scientology uses to expel "body thetans" form its followers :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

your army is just for 3rd world non nuclear shit holes...yes its good for your corporate government to force its "democratic" will upon the other 95% of the worlds population...but the russians you leave alone...its just how it is...

and there is no change in agenda...americans are not ready for a war with russia ever no matter how many bar stories you hear from marines ect...invading 3rd world shit holes with a super military is one thing, but russia is a completely different story...so is china...

Vendzilla 05-07-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20078903)
where did i mention ground invasion?...the russians would not stand a chance in a ground invasion...this is silly, why on earth would they attack the USA?

the point is: you are an american in an elevator with a russian...you have a fancy space age weapon and the russian has an old world war2 hand grenade with the pin pulled in his hand and a rusty knife in the other...if the russian decides he wants to stab you for fun, then there is not much you can do about it...

yes the whole world is in this imaginary elevator and will die from this imaginary grenade, but the real point is that I find your aircraft carriers and fancy weapons just as amusing as that machine that the church of scientology uses to expel "body thetans" form its followers :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

your army is just for 3rd world non nuclear shit holes...yes its good for your corporate government to force its "democratic" will upon the other 95% of the worlds population...but the russians you leave alone...its just how it is...

and there is no change in agenda...americans are not ready for a war with russia ever no matter how many bar stories you hear from marines ect...invading 3rd world shit holes with a super military is one thing, but russia is a completely different story...so is china...

You don't have a clue do you?

No ones Navy compares to the US's right now, NO ONE!

Our Navy was designed as a deterrent against the Soviet Union, which no longer exists

dyna mo 05-07-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20078903)
where did i mention ground invasion?...the russians would not stand a chance in a ground invasion...this is silly, why on earth would they attack the USA?

the point is: you are an american in an elevator with a russian...you have a fancy space age weapon and the russian has an old world war2 hand grenade with the pin pulled in his hand and a rusty knife in the other...if the russian decides he wants to stab you for fun, then there is not much you can do about it...

yes the whole world is in this imaginary elevator and will die from this imaginary grenade, but the real point is that I find your aircraft carriers and fancy weapons just as amusing as that machine that the church of scientology uses to expel "body thetans" form its followers :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

your army is just for 3rd world non nuclear shit holes...yes its good for your corporate government to force its "democratic" will upon the other 95% of the worlds population...but the russians you leave alone...its just how it is...

and there is no change in agenda...americans are not ready for a war with russia ever no matter how many bar stories you hear from marines ect...invading 3rd world shit holes with a super military is one thing, but russia is a completely different story...so is china...

I have no compelling reason to sell you on how weaponized/militarized the USA has become or to teach you history of the American people in times of adversity. Nor to recall my previous posts pointing out that we currently have Russia fully surrounded militarily with more than 500 military bases, etc.

i do have compelling reason to laugh my fucking ass off at you comparing our military to the church of scientology and to suggest our military is comprised of nothing but sophisticated weapons that can't compete against a grenade in an elevator. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

bigluv 05-07-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20078922)
teach you history of the American people in times of adversity.

Americans are too fat to get out of their easy chairs and most will sell out the whole country for a new ipad. So I would not be staking any bets on whose population is more able to handle adversity.

pimpmaster9000 05-07-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20078916)
You don't have a clue do you?

No ones Navy compares to the US's right now, NO ONE!

Our Navy was designed as a deterrent against the Soviet Union, which no longer exists

But I agree 100%...Your navy kicks ass...no sarcasm I truly believe your navy could conquer all the oceans and seas and declare it US territory and there is little anybody could do about it...

except putin...he would need a little paper ship...on the paper he would write for example: I have 100 amps of ebola on US soil and like 10 sleepers who will walk trough subways left and right until it is waaaaaaaaaay too late LOL now fuck off with the ships or die...

And we both know that, facing certain extinction , or at best "the walking dead" scenarios, the US would retreat its waste of money, 3rd world deterrent, outdated concept navy theatrical group, in the face of real danger...

And yes your ships and planes really kick ass. You really invested in killing others no doubt about it.




@dynamo...

the grenade was in fact a metaphor :thumbsup

crockett 05-07-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20077988)
800 kilotons of nuke on that topol and your'e gonna drop more than 1 on your neighbors.

http://www.nucleardarkness.org/inclu..._firestorm.jpg

Check out http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/


edit... I missed your other post, where you already posted the same link.


It's pretty fun to play with and lets you test the damage/fall out of all the known nuclear weapons on any city in the world.

It was actually a eye opener to me as to how small the actual damage range is. It would take quite a few missiles to take out a city the size of New York in terms of total destruction.

dyna mo 05-07-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv (Post 20079117)
Americans are too fat to get out of their easy chairs and most will sell out the whole country for a new ipad. So I would not be staking any bets on whose population is more able to handle adversity.

You can't read. I didn't compare Americans to any population. I simply stated it's silly to discount Americans in time of adversity and history proves that.

crockett 05-07-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20078480)
fact: your aircraft carriers and fancy planes are worth their weigh in scrap metal against bacteria...YES you would win IF they decided to fight you the ancient sticks and stones way...but only a stupid mother fucker without bacteria would fight you that way LOL

your military is only for 3rd world countries, americans have thin skin and are not ready for a real war of any type...

Unless Russia had means to vaccinate it's population from the same bacteria, you would be shooting yourselves in the foot. This is why the US didn't go with that sort of plan, because it would be just as devastating on our own surviving population as it would the targets.

slapass 05-07-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MK Ultra (Post 20077370)
Putin had better be careful, if he pushes Obama too far he'll find himself on the receiving end of a very strongly-worded tweet! :uhoh

You are talking about the guy who signs kill lists monthly right? He is arguably the most aggressive president we have had in a long time.

pornmasta 05-07-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 20077909)
When will the first GFY-er kill another GFY-er?
Civil wars, attacking neigbouring countries, threatning, showing muscles. propaganda.
And that all for a 'revolution' most people know nothing about and don't care about.

Who knows, if it didn't already happen

dyna mo 05-07-2014 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20079170)
Unless Russia had means to vaccinate it's population from the same bacteria, you would be shooting yourselves in the foot. This is why the US didn't go with that sort of plan, because it would be just as devastating on our own surviving population as it would the targets.

He also seems to forget how the American military has fully embraced drones. Not to mention the unreal world backlash from using bacterials.

How'd we even legitimize this as a fucking topic anyway? we're talking to a POS serb who is claiming the russians will use bacteria weapons against US and NATO forces in russian neighboring states?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fished in!

dyna mo 05-07-2014 01:54 PM

100 megatons of bullshit!

pornmasta 05-07-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20077993)
see the fallout prediction maps for an 800kt nuclear detonation for yourself

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/


Estimated total-dose fallout contours for a 800 kiloton surface burst with a 15 mph wind: ▼
Fallout contour for 1 rads per hour:
Maximum downwind cloud distance: 388 km
Maximum width: 87.4 km
Approximate area affected: 27,300 kmē
Fallout contour for 10 rads per hour:
Maximum downwind cloud distance: 286 km
Maximum width: 61.5 km
Approximate area affected: 14,360 kmē
Fallout contour for 100 rads per hour:
Maximum downwind cloud distance: 184 km
Maximum width: 35.7 km
Approximate area affected: 5,540 kmē
Fallout contour for 1,000 rads per hour:
Maximum downwind cloud distance: 82.1 km
Maximum width: 9.81 km
Approximate area affected: 831 kmē
Fallout windsock is 7 km from ground zero. C

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiore...nce_comparison

Human DL50: 4.5 gray, 1 gray = 100 rads.


pimpmaster9000 05-07-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20079170)
Unless Russia had means to vaccinate it's population from the same bacteria, you would be shooting yourselves in the foot. This is why the US didn't go with that sort of plan, because it would be just as devastating on our own surviving population as it would the targets.

that is the whole point...ground war is not an option, the rest of the world invested in free education and health care and not weapons like the USA...

look you have 2 choices as a non american nation:

1) get nuked or bullied and let the invaders live

2) take the mother fuckers out with you in a cruel and sadistic way even if it is bacteria...

would you let a technologically advanced nation bully you if you could wipe them the fuck out? then why the hell do you think others would hesitate?


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20079170)
He also seems to forget how the American military has fully embraced drones. Not to mention the unreal world backlash from using bacterials.

yes yes the whole world will sit by and let you conquer it with your drones and corporate bullshit and not use bacteria on you as a last resort :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

putin can end you if he wishes...this is all that matters...there is somebody to keep you at bay...



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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20079170)
How'd we even legitimize this as a fucking topic anyway

do you honestly believe there is no danger from bio attack? it is by far the simplest way to fuck everything up and, as a last resort, in a world soon full of drones, you will need an upper hand that does not involve caching up with the USA...

do you honestly honestly believe that other nations see the USA as anything other than a corporate dynasty?...you guys took things to the next level with nukes and drones...if you think 95% of the world will hand its asses over to you without a bloody and unfair fight, then you are truly insane...

to sum up: you can not win, you are just investing money in crap, its only good for 3rd world stuff...

dyna mo 05-07-2014 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20079228)




yes yes the whole world will sit by and let you conquer it with your drones and corporate bullshit and not use bacteria on you as a last resort :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

putin can end you if he wishes...this is all that matters...there is somebody to keep you at bay...

My initial post was in regards to topol missiles being used against NATO forces in Euro. That's Russian aggression, not USA/NATO agression. This entire bullshit dialogue is about that. Your own logic: do you really think the world is going to sit by while Russia uses illegal/biological weapons?

it's time for YOU to get real not me.



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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20079228)
do you honestly believe there is no danger from bio attack? it is by far the simplest way to fuck everything up and, as a last resort, in a world soon full of drones, you will need an upper hand that does not involve caching up with the USA...

do you honestly honestly believe that other nations see the USA as anything other than a corporate dynasty?...you guys took things to the next level with nukes and drones...if you think 95% of the world will hand its asses over to you without a bloody and unfair fight, then you are truly insane...

to sum up: you can not win, you are just investing money in crap, its only good for 3rd world stuff...

of course bio weapons are a conceivable threat. at some point of desperation they certainly could be used. And anyone who knows ww2 knows Russia can scorch the earth.

nevertheless, when shit hits the fan again for you over there and it will/is, we won't be/aren't the aggressors.

Vendzilla 05-07-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20079137)
except putin...he would need a little paper ship...on the paper he would write for example: I have 100 amps of ebola on US soil and like 10 sleepers who will walk trough subways left and right until it is waaaaaaaaaay too late LOL now fuck off with the ships or die...

Or we could send a message to Putin telling him we have 14 Ohio Class SSBN's each carrying 24 Trident C4 missiles all aimed at the major cities of Russia, off the coast of his country in unknown locations and will fire upon the first outbreak of ebola!

That's what the cold war was about, deterrents.

Rumbledog 05-07-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20077423)
ahqahahah, was just reading a bit about the topol-m, it's 1980s technology. ahahahahahah. it's already past the end of it's lifecycle.

who gives a shit how fast it is if it's going to fizzle out on the pad. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Why is that most people think the age of a design is no longer functional as intended?

The window was created in the 1800's. Many designs since then, but really, how much has the window really changed?

In my personal life outside of adult I work in mechanics technology of new and older products.

That toplo-m doesn't not need to be upgraded. It will deliver as designed.
I am not delusional to think or believe that the US will walk right through Russia.

dyna mo 05-07-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumbledog (Post 20079373)
Why is that most people think the age of a design is no longer functional as intended?

The window was created in the 1800's. Many designs since then, but really, how much has the window really changed?

In my personal life outside of adult I work in mechanics technology of new and older products.

That toplo-m doesn't not need to be upgraded. It will deliver as designed.
I am not delusional to think or believe that the US will walk right through Russia.

because the system was designed for a 20 year lifespan and the corresponding evidence is avialable via google that shows the lack of maintenance that permeates the Russian military.

comparing a 250 year old window to nuclear weapons delivery systems that were built 30 years ago to last 20 years, and that's with maintenance, doesn't make sense.

I've never stated anything even remotely close to thinking the US would invade Russia, not to mention "walk right through Russia".

mechanics technology? So you can work on a car? great.

dyna mo 05-07-2014 05:15 PM

oh and I never said anything about it not delivering. I did make a snarky remark about the lack of maintenance on the system and how it would prolly fizzle out on the pad, however my primary snarky retort was re: the russian who put up a picture of the Topol as some sort of threat to Euro NATO, which is not designed for.

just a punk 05-07-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20079293)
Or we could send a message to Putin telling him we have 14 Ohio Class SSBN's each carrying 24 Trident C4 missiles all aimed at the major cities of Russia, off the coast of his country in unknown locations and will fire upon the first outbreak of ebola!

How would you know it was Russia, but not China, Iran or one of your "super friendly" EU counties? :winkwink: It may start anywhere and then be accidentally transferred to the States... You know, Ebola won't live in Russia, China and Northern European countries because of our shitty cold climate.

As about the subs. Yours patrol our shores, while ours patrol yours. If one country will use the nukes, the another one will fire back. Old game, old rules :)

just a punk 05-07-2014 11:45 PM

Hey, Ebola won't live in Canada too! ) So there is one more player to suspect :winkwink:

stoka 05-08-2014 01:11 AM

wandering what's there to upgrade on an icbm
instead to press a big red button you tap an fancy icon? :1orglaugh

and why the fuck anyone would think that Russians don't take proper care of their nuclear herd?
taken from some bullshit Hollywood movie? :1orglaugh

dyna mo 05-08-2014 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stoka (Post 20079678)
wandering what's there to upgrade on an icbm
instead to press a big red button you tap an fancy icon? :1orglaugh

and why the fuck anyone would think that Russians don't take proper care of their nuclear herd?
taken from some bullshit Hollywood movie? :1orglaugh

because it's easily found information via google. While russians have been buying $45billion dollar olympics and creating new oligarchs in the post-perestroika money grab, you haven't been spending that money on defense. that's no secret.

Again, this isn't the 1950s, kruschev can't just claim shit and get away with it, it's a smaller world now.

pimpmaster9000 05-08-2014 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20079293)
Or we could send a message to Putin telling him we have 14 Ohio Class SSBN's each carrying 24 Trident C4 missiles all aimed at the major cities of Russia, off the coast of his country in unknown locations and will fire upon the first outbreak of ebola!

That's what the cold war was about, deterrents.

and you can have 10 USS star trek enterprise spaceships it makes no difference...

how come nobody gets it?

the USA has more to lose and thinner skin...russians are used to hardship, and in a conventional war could never win...

ergo...

they will not fight a conventional war

ergo...

mutual destruction is the only outcome because you are INSANE if you think anybody will surrender to you whilst having the trigger on global life...

ergo...

your weapons are completely useless because you lack the incentive to die over politics and when putin tells you to go the fuck home, you will do so..


or look at it this way: your navy is only worth a shit if you find an enemy stupid enough to let you live, or life continue on earth, and is willing to just roll over and die whilst having bio weapons...good luck with that LOL

the brainwash is so strong in the USA that most americans can not even entertain the possibility that their army is worthless...just like fucking north korea...

Vendzilla 05-08-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20080078)
and you can have 10 USS star trek enterprise spaceships it makes no difference...

how come nobody gets it?

the USA has more to lose and thinner skin...russians are used to hardship, and in a conventional war could never win...

ergo...

they will not fight a conventional war

ergo...

mutual destruction is the only outcome because you are INSANE if you think anybody will surrender to you whilst having the trigger on global life...

ergo...

your weapons are completely useless because you lack the incentive to die over politics and when putin tells you to go the fuck home, you will do so..


or look at it this way: your navy is only worth a shit if you find an enemy stupid enough to let you live, or life continue on earth, and is willing to just roll over and die whilst having bio weapons...good luck with that LOL

the brainwash is so strong in the USA that most americans can not even entertain the possibility that their army is worthless...just like fucking north korea...

Gawd, do you know anything but propaganda?

Brainwash, I was there asshole

No one is going to do what you think someone will do, you have not thought it out.

The ONLY reason Putin is doing what he is doing now is because we have a weak leader, that will only happen for a few more years, then things will change.

You are actually routing for the psychos in the world, go fuck yourself

pimpmaster9000 05-08-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20080216)
Gawd, do you know anything but propaganda?

Brainwash, I was there asshole

No one is going to do what you think someone will do, you have not thought it out.

The ONLY reason Putin is doing what he is doing now is because we have a weak leader, that will only happen for a few more years, then things will change.

You are actually routing for the psychos in the world, go fuck yourself

putin has an "off" button for life on earth...russian territory is sacred to every US soldier because of this...this is no propaganda its the plain truth...it has nothing to do with weak or strong leader...your leader can literally suck putins dick as long as he has the "off" button strength plays no role...big big bodybuilders die from ebola too :1orglaugh...

why dont you just admit it: batman uniforms are more useful than the US army against russia :1orglaugh

and I am not happy about putin either...just happy about a future where the USA does not get to tell the world how to live with its future robot drone army and corporate democracy...what is happening in ukraine is exactly what happened to my country and I hope it stops yesterday...but as always the west will add fuel to the fire and call it democracy and "vietnam" or "iraq" the place with only a huge death toll to show for it and no real progress...the rest of the world actually fears a "blackwater" future at the hands of your democracy


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