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dyna mo 05-07-2014 01:54 PM

100 megatons of bullshit!

pornmasta 05-07-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20077993)
see the fallout prediction maps for an 800kt nuclear detonation for yourself

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/


Estimated total-dose fallout contours for a 800 kiloton surface burst with a 15 mph wind: ▼
Fallout contour for 1 rads per hour:
Maximum downwind cloud distance: 388 km
Maximum width: 87.4 km
Approximate area affected: 27,300 kmē
Fallout contour for 10 rads per hour:
Maximum downwind cloud distance: 286 km
Maximum width: 61.5 km
Approximate area affected: 14,360 kmē
Fallout contour for 100 rads per hour:
Maximum downwind cloud distance: 184 km
Maximum width: 35.7 km
Approximate area affected: 5,540 kmē
Fallout contour for 1,000 rads per hour:
Maximum downwind cloud distance: 82.1 km
Maximum width: 9.81 km
Approximate area affected: 831 kmē
Fallout windsock is 7 km from ground zero. C

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiore...nce_comparison

Human DL50: 4.5 gray, 1 gray = 100 rads.


pimpmaster9000 05-07-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20079170)
Unless Russia had means to vaccinate it's population from the same bacteria, you would be shooting yourselves in the foot. This is why the US didn't go with that sort of plan, because it would be just as devastating on our own surviving population as it would the targets.

that is the whole point...ground war is not an option, the rest of the world invested in free education and health care and not weapons like the USA...

look you have 2 choices as a non american nation:

1) get nuked or bullied and let the invaders live

2) take the mother fuckers out with you in a cruel and sadistic way even if it is bacteria...

would you let a technologically advanced nation bully you if you could wipe them the fuck out? then why the hell do you think others would hesitate?


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20079170)
He also seems to forget how the American military has fully embraced drones. Not to mention the unreal world backlash from using bacterials.

yes yes the whole world will sit by and let you conquer it with your drones and corporate bullshit and not use bacteria on you as a last resort :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

putin can end you if he wishes...this is all that matters...there is somebody to keep you at bay...



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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20079170)
How'd we even legitimize this as a fucking topic anyway

do you honestly believe there is no danger from bio attack? it is by far the simplest way to fuck everything up and, as a last resort, in a world soon full of drones, you will need an upper hand that does not involve caching up with the USA...

do you honestly honestly believe that other nations see the USA as anything other than a corporate dynasty?...you guys took things to the next level with nukes and drones...if you think 95% of the world will hand its asses over to you without a bloody and unfair fight, then you are truly insane...

to sum up: you can not win, you are just investing money in crap, its only good for 3rd world stuff...

dyna mo 05-07-2014 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20079228)




yes yes the whole world will sit by and let you conquer it with your drones and corporate bullshit and not use bacteria on you as a last resort :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

putin can end you if he wishes...this is all that matters...there is somebody to keep you at bay...

My initial post was in regards to topol missiles being used against NATO forces in Euro. That's Russian aggression, not USA/NATO agression. This entire bullshit dialogue is about that. Your own logic: do you really think the world is going to sit by while Russia uses illegal/biological weapons?

it's time for YOU to get real not me.



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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20079228)
do you honestly believe there is no danger from bio attack? it is by far the simplest way to fuck everything up and, as a last resort, in a world soon full of drones, you will need an upper hand that does not involve caching up with the USA...

do you honestly honestly believe that other nations see the USA as anything other than a corporate dynasty?...you guys took things to the next level with nukes and drones...if you think 95% of the world will hand its asses over to you without a bloody and unfair fight, then you are truly insane...

to sum up: you can not win, you are just investing money in crap, its only good for 3rd world stuff...

of course bio weapons are a conceivable threat. at some point of desperation they certainly could be used. And anyone who knows ww2 knows Russia can scorch the earth.

nevertheless, when shit hits the fan again for you over there and it will/is, we won't be/aren't the aggressors.

Vendzilla 05-07-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20079137)
except putin...he would need a little paper ship...on the paper he would write for example: I have 100 amps of ebola on US soil and like 10 sleepers who will walk trough subways left and right until it is waaaaaaaaaay too late LOL now fuck off with the ships or die...

Or we could send a message to Putin telling him we have 14 Ohio Class SSBN's each carrying 24 Trident C4 missiles all aimed at the major cities of Russia, off the coast of his country in unknown locations and will fire upon the first outbreak of ebola!

That's what the cold war was about, deterrents.

Rumbledog 05-07-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20077423)
ahqahahah, was just reading a bit about the topol-m, it's 1980s technology. ahahahahahah. it's already past the end of it's lifecycle.

who gives a shit how fast it is if it's going to fizzle out on the pad. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Why is that most people think the age of a design is no longer functional as intended?

The window was created in the 1800's. Many designs since then, but really, how much has the window really changed?

In my personal life outside of adult I work in mechanics technology of new and older products.

That toplo-m doesn't not need to be upgraded. It will deliver as designed.
I am not delusional to think or believe that the US will walk right through Russia.

dyna mo 05-07-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumbledog (Post 20079373)
Why is that most people think the age of a design is no longer functional as intended?

The window was created in the 1800's. Many designs since then, but really, how much has the window really changed?

In my personal life outside of adult I work in mechanics technology of new and older products.

That toplo-m doesn't not need to be upgraded. It will deliver as designed.
I am not delusional to think or believe that the US will walk right through Russia.

because the system was designed for a 20 year lifespan and the corresponding evidence is avialable via google that shows the lack of maintenance that permeates the Russian military.

comparing a 250 year old window to nuclear weapons delivery systems that were built 30 years ago to last 20 years, and that's with maintenance, doesn't make sense.

I've never stated anything even remotely close to thinking the US would invade Russia, not to mention "walk right through Russia".

mechanics technology? So you can work on a car? great.

dyna mo 05-07-2014 05:15 PM

oh and I never said anything about it not delivering. I did make a snarky remark about the lack of maintenance on the system and how it would prolly fizzle out on the pad, however my primary snarky retort was re: the russian who put up a picture of the Topol as some sort of threat to Euro NATO, which is not designed for.

just a punk 05-07-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20079293)
Or we could send a message to Putin telling him we have 14 Ohio Class SSBN's each carrying 24 Trident C4 missiles all aimed at the major cities of Russia, off the coast of his country in unknown locations and will fire upon the first outbreak of ebola!

How would you know it was Russia, but not China, Iran or one of your "super friendly" EU counties? :winkwink: It may start anywhere and then be accidentally transferred to the States... You know, Ebola won't live in Russia, China and Northern European countries because of our shitty cold climate.

As about the subs. Yours patrol our shores, while ours patrol yours. If one country will use the nukes, the another one will fire back. Old game, old rules :)

just a punk 05-07-2014 11:45 PM

Hey, Ebola won't live in Canada too! ) So there is one more player to suspect :winkwink:

stoka 05-08-2014 01:11 AM

wandering what's there to upgrade on an icbm
instead to press a big red button you tap an fancy icon? :1orglaugh

and why the fuck anyone would think that Russians don't take proper care of their nuclear herd?
taken from some bullshit Hollywood movie? :1orglaugh

dyna mo 05-08-2014 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stoka (Post 20079678)
wandering what's there to upgrade on an icbm
instead to press a big red button you tap an fancy icon? :1orglaugh

and why the fuck anyone would think that Russians don't take proper care of their nuclear herd?
taken from some bullshit Hollywood movie? :1orglaugh

because it's easily found information via google. While russians have been buying $45billion dollar olympics and creating new oligarchs in the post-perestroika money grab, you haven't been spending that money on defense. that's no secret.

Again, this isn't the 1950s, kruschev can't just claim shit and get away with it, it's a smaller world now.

pimpmaster9000 05-08-2014 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20079293)
Or we could send a message to Putin telling him we have 14 Ohio Class SSBN's each carrying 24 Trident C4 missiles all aimed at the major cities of Russia, off the coast of his country in unknown locations and will fire upon the first outbreak of ebola!

That's what the cold war was about, deterrents.

and you can have 10 USS star trek enterprise spaceships it makes no difference...

how come nobody gets it?

the USA has more to lose and thinner skin...russians are used to hardship, and in a conventional war could never win...

ergo...

they will not fight a conventional war

ergo...

mutual destruction is the only outcome because you are INSANE if you think anybody will surrender to you whilst having the trigger on global life...

ergo...

your weapons are completely useless because you lack the incentive to die over politics and when putin tells you to go the fuck home, you will do so..


or look at it this way: your navy is only worth a shit if you find an enemy stupid enough to let you live, or life continue on earth, and is willing to just roll over and die whilst having bio weapons...good luck with that LOL

the brainwash is so strong in the USA that most americans can not even entertain the possibility that their army is worthless...just like fucking north korea...

Vendzilla 05-08-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20080078)
and you can have 10 USS star trek enterprise spaceships it makes no difference...

how come nobody gets it?

the USA has more to lose and thinner skin...russians are used to hardship, and in a conventional war could never win...

ergo...

they will not fight a conventional war

ergo...

mutual destruction is the only outcome because you are INSANE if you think anybody will surrender to you whilst having the trigger on global life...

ergo...

your weapons are completely useless because you lack the incentive to die over politics and when putin tells you to go the fuck home, you will do so..


or look at it this way: your navy is only worth a shit if you find an enemy stupid enough to let you live, or life continue on earth, and is willing to just roll over and die whilst having bio weapons...good luck with that LOL

the brainwash is so strong in the USA that most americans can not even entertain the possibility that their army is worthless...just like fucking north korea...

Gawd, do you know anything but propaganda?

Brainwash, I was there asshole

No one is going to do what you think someone will do, you have not thought it out.

The ONLY reason Putin is doing what he is doing now is because we have a weak leader, that will only happen for a few more years, then things will change.

You are actually routing for the psychos in the world, go fuck yourself

pimpmaster9000 05-08-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20080216)
Gawd, do you know anything but propaganda?

Brainwash, I was there asshole

No one is going to do what you think someone will do, you have not thought it out.

The ONLY reason Putin is doing what he is doing now is because we have a weak leader, that will only happen for a few more years, then things will change.

You are actually routing for the psychos in the world, go fuck yourself

putin has an "off" button for life on earth...russian territory is sacred to every US soldier because of this...this is no propaganda its the plain truth...it has nothing to do with weak or strong leader...your leader can literally suck putins dick as long as he has the "off" button strength plays no role...big big bodybuilders die from ebola too :1orglaugh...

why dont you just admit it: batman uniforms are more useful than the US army against russia :1orglaugh

and I am not happy about putin either...just happy about a future where the USA does not get to tell the world how to live with its future robot drone army and corporate democracy...what is happening in ukraine is exactly what happened to my country and I hope it stops yesterday...but as always the west will add fuel to the fire and call it democracy and "vietnam" or "iraq" the place with only a huge death toll to show for it and no real progress...the rest of the world actually fears a "blackwater" future at the hands of your democracy


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