50 pittbulls

He doesn't have the braincells to understand something as basic as this.

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Maybe if you're living in fear protection is the reason for a dog. But every single dog owner I know and have known including my parents get a dog because they like them, that's the ONLY reason. Either you have mental issues or you're living in a very, very bad neighborhood.

Reminds me of:
"Police in Nigeria are holding a goat handed to them by a vigilante group, which said it was a car thief who had used witchcraft to change shape."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7846822.stm :1orglaugh

The Democrats kind ;)

Don't waste your time.

EXACTLY! Because they'll do it again..:2 cents:

You think I live in fear of anything?

I posted from Ceasar Millan's website, but I guess you are too fucking retarded to read it, it was about how dogs have been used for protection since the beginning of time. I'm glad in your neighborhood no one thinks about protection, but the first time the dog is barking, they jump up in the middle of the night to see what's going on, like the house is burning down

You always attack my position on anything I post, that's called trolling.

You're nothing but a fucking troll and not worth answering, just like when you talk to your parents and they don't answer you!

uhm.........

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It's a pretty safe bet that the dog will get a pass each and every time it attacks a home invader, burglar, repro man or any likewise human trash.

Bad analogy.
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I think it's spot on.

How can someone be sued by a burglar if a dog bit him?
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...5150725AABP3DC
It's unlikely the burglar or whatever will win, but the court system is pretty fucked up at times.

Roald, the guy comes into threads and makes insults to me, that's all he does, if he can't take what he dishes out and gets his tighty whities in a bunch, fuck'm.

He never did answer me what does the T stand's for?

Just put him down, trapping a dog for life is just torture.

Good... Nonsense... There should be penalty for a babysitter, or public authorities, or I don't know who exactly... Not the dog...

That's good because I hate his music.

Pitbulls should be owned by people who know how to handle and train dogs. Most of the doggies are doomed to be bad because the breed largely attracts macho douchebags and ghetto thugs. These are people who will not raise a good dog.

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When my old dog died I took her left over food, beds, medicines and some toys to my local animal shelter. It was disgusting to see well over half the dogs there were pit bulls or pit bull mixes. The manager said pit bulls are constantly being brought in by owners that give up or can't move into new housing because of the dogs. She also said they are un-adoptable and make up the majority of animals put to sleep.

Fucking sad.

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People live for a very long time in jail before they are killed. Tax payers pay good money every year they aren't killed.


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I would like to add that my dog being as submissive as she is and all the training she has I have more confident that she wouldn't attack anyone. I allso hope that if someone broke in or hurt me she would attack them it's kinda of a double edged sword to say that.

If my dog did attack a kid I would probably have her put to sleep. Thank goodness my dogs are not around kids much and for sure if there are kids I have control of them.

Even if your dog didn't attack someone trying to do you harm, they would most certainly alert you to danger, like someone breaking into the house, giving you a better chance of survival.

Last week I was riding my bicycle on a trail and passed a man and woman who were walking their 4 giant rottweilers, with no leashes! I can't tell you how many times I've had similar experiences with people having their dogs off leash... running full speed at me, leaping in front of me and nearly getting ran over...

A good friend of mine has a pit bull and aside from the time i was alone with it and it tried to rape me, its a very nice dog

Big dogs can be trained to be off leash, apparently those dogs weren't.

I bet that got your heart pumping

it doesn't matter if a piece of shit dog owner has his pos dog on a leash or not. Was walking my dog this weekend and coming up to a street corner noticed a pos pitbull has laser beam locked his eyes on my dog and was at the end of his leash towards us. I've seen this shit before and already knew to pick my dog up when we went by.

the POS pitbull lunged at my dog that I was holding in my arms anyway. the owner had his face in his smartphone the entire time, oblivious.

It has definitely motivated me to pick up a can of bear mace.

If you are going to get some mace, get the stuff with the marker dye in it, that way it identifies the attacker. You then report it to the police and when they find the dog, a simple black light check will tell them they have the right animal. They have a combination mace, pepper spray with the marker dye .

lol, yes they have been used for protection, but it's not the reason people get a dog nowadays. The point of discussion was the reason people get a dog, and it's because they like dogs, period. It doesn't have anything to do anymore with medieval times where they were solely for protection. You always miss the point, that's probably why i respond to you to tell you this. I just try to help out :smilie_we

Sad that the owner is such an asshole

Tranny? :1orglaugh

Most dogs would never bite someone. My Lab can seem like a ferocious guard dog, but he'd probably lick the guy who breaks into my house. But, at least I'd know the guy is coming in so I can grab my bat. He's a brown, furry alarm system.

My kind of guard dog.

Same with my lab, they broke into my car and I am sure he heard it but was probably to lazy to bark and alarm us. Fucker!

You are missing the point, I said a major reason is for protection, I never said solely, you are trying so hard to prove a point against me, you miss the point

Bronco67 gets the point.

L-Pink gets the point.

Roald gets the point, but his dog didn't see it as a danger. I'm sure he would let you know if anyone came in the house. Labs are good dogs.





People get dogs for all sorts of reasons, but they depend on them to announce if someone is breaking in the house, even to let them know someone is at the front door. A toy poodle is better than most any alarm system.

Look in Holland where you say you live
http://www.k9trainers.com/holland.htm

They train protection dogs


I've had the following breeds
Weimaraner - couldn't swim
Vizla- too damn hyper
French Masthiff - Funny dog
German Shepard - Patrolled the property
Border Collie - Smartest dog ever, very protective of children, herded them together to keep an eye on them.
Bull Mastiff- ate more food than most could afford
Black Newfoundland- This one didn't bark, but killed anything that came in the back yard
Dog also smiled, which scared people
I don't have one right now, but thinking about getting something

I understand you are unusually irrational. I also get that in these discussions, you are really expressing affection for your animal and emotional attachments and not really trying to make a valid point. And though instant flashes of moral intuition and intuitive emotions/responses guide the bulk of our decisions through those initial flashes of emotions we feel and where everything said after the fact is often little more than a nonsense post hoc rationalization of the emotion.... there are those who such as yourself who are wholly incapable of later engaging rational reasoning to at least attempt to use reason to rationalize the emotion and the manner in which you irrationally expressed it.

Never the less... i am going to try to help you with some obvious, indisputable facts, knowing full well that it will certainly be in vain.

This is all very simple stuff.

It is all Basic Genetics 101.

You can take any group of animals, select the ones with the traits you desire (aggression) and breed it with animals with similar traits and in a few generations, you have a completely different animal with new behavioral traits.

This stuff has been done since the beginning of time.

Here is a very common scenario with certain breeds such as pitbulls.

Dogs have been bred to fight.
Dogs that like to fight attracts dickheads who think its cool to own such dogs.
Dickhead knows other dickheads with ill tempered pitbulls.
Dickheads are proud of their aggressive animals
Dickheads are likely to breed their aggressive/large animals to create more aggressive large animals.
... and on it goes

That doesn't mean every single pitbull is bad. It means the genes are out there. It means the genes for aggressive behavior in certain breeds are always out there and always spreading.

But its pretty fucking obvious that when cunts gravitate towards pitbulls, there is always going to be an increased likelihood of them having animals that are ill tempered, aggressive and they will be more likely to be bred to similar animals... creating more of the same and worse. Those animals are then out there breeding with other animals. Just because a particular animal does not visibly possess certain behavioral traits, does not mean those traits are not in his genes and are not being passed along to other similar and dissimilar breeds.

It's also quite insane to pretend this has not happened to a great extent in the past with certain breeds, such as pitbulls... particularly when these dogs are and have been specifically bred to fight.

Pretending animals don't have genetic behavioral traits requires an irretrievably deluded perspective (i.e. a sheepdog will instinctively try to herd anything around it that moves - in spite of having no prior exposure or training to herd anything).

A simple fact of genetics is that any individual here could create a crazy strong, violent and aggressive dog through breeding alone and it can be done in just a few generations of proper selective breeding.... and it will not matter in the slightest bit how good the owners are with the dog when their genes are wired for certain behavioral traits and dispositions. They can act out violently at any moment, regardless,... as they frequently do.

Additionally, just because someone can point out attacks from Lab happen - that doesn't mean those tendencies didn't originate from a pitbull or animals specifically bred to be agressive in its lineage.

There is a reason we all do not own tigers or rattlesnakes or grizzly bears and are not constantly say "its the owners, not the grizzly bears - so we need to stop all this grizzly bear specific legislation" - Animals are exactly what their genetics and environment made them to be. We, as with animals are all the product of genes+environment. It's not an "either / or" discussion. With certain breeds, there is undeniably bad owners and bad owners selecting (intentionally or not) for bad genes.

wrong. Also not a major reason. Maybe 1 in 100 people get a dog where the major reason is protection. 99 our of 100 get a dog because they think it's fun. You are thick and remind me of Sleazydream, he never understood anything either.

Well at least you are saying "major" again.

Let's just agree to disagree.

Every dog I have EVER seen will bark or do something if a noise happens in the middle of the night in a persons house.

A major reason people have dogs is to feel protected, that's the first line
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=2019

A valid point would be to say that if I owned a Pitt Bull, I wouldn't let it around children unless I was there. I would train the dog like every dog I have trained. I would never let any dog run around other people without a leash.

This isn't emotional, it's educated. I've been around large dogs most of my life, the most aggressive are chihuahua's and toy poodles. The most dangerous are any large dog that wants to protect their owner. Pit bulls do not have the most powerful bite, rottweilers have a much more powerful bite. They can be just as aggressive.

I grew up with a father who was a major hunter. We always had dogs (Labrador Retrievers) that led two lives, house pets and hunting companions for my father. My father always took great pains finding dogs with hunting backgrounds in their lineage. It was obvious from 10 weeks on the dogs just "got/understood" what game my father was training them for.

Training and environment is important but training a dog with the right DNA traits is much easier and natural. To say Pit-Bulls aren't pre disposed to be aggressive is to ignore basic dog breeding facts.


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I agree with you. The dog in the little rascals was a pit. it was called the nurse maid breed because it was so good with kids. its not the dog, its these pieces of shit that misbreed them and think its cool to have an aggressive dog.

Boston Terriers were originally breed to be fighting dogs. Things can be breed in and breed out as Squealer stated its the breeding.

dogs are delicious :)

The same people look down the barrel of a gun to see if it's loaded

You actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks brother.:thumbsup

You're very welcome

Dogs are a serious matter to me. I have trained dogs for a good chunk of my life, not professionally, just the dogs I had. My Border collie would get you a tissue if you sneezed. My french mastiff would walk without a leash next to my side as we went on walks. Even other barking dogs didn't effect that dog.
Living in a condo now, no yard really. I figure I will retire to the mountains and get a good dog then. To me a dog has to weigh over 50 lbs to be a fit for me. Border collie is as small as I would ever want

My spouse and i wouldn't place down the dog.

I have a boxer pitt mix and she hasn't been on a leash in years. The only word I need to say is heel and boom she's right by my knee. I did spent $1500 on a dog trainer who then became my friend. Thank goodness I called her. I worked very hard as did my dogs with there training as I didn't want an unruly dog.


I don't have either of my dogs around kids.

My Uncle helped me train my first dog, it takes a lot of your time, but you end up with a great companion. I never used common words for commands. Funny is most of my commands I used were from being around horses as a kid. Instead of heel, I would say Ho. My dogs wouldn't listen to others. And if a kid came up that the dog didn't know, I would tell the kids to keep their distance unless I could introduce them to my dog.

It does take alot of time but if you take the time any breed of dog can be a great one.


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