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  • TheSquealer
    Mayor of Thneedville
    • Oct 2004
    • 26174

    #1

    THIS is why you are not successful in Adult!

    I came across this watching a Muay Thai video and it was the background audio to people training. I looked it up to find the source. Very thought provoking (or certainly should be)

    If you find yourself disagreeing or irritated with what he's saying or think he's just flat out wrong, you'll be a loser until you get it.

    There is always competition.
    There are always hardships.
    There are always changing markets and environments.
    There are always hurdles.
    There will always be some wins.
    With those wins will come many crushing defeats.
    You will inevitably fail at most of the ventures you try.
    Great income streams eventually fade and die as everything around you evolves and changes.



    The only question that remains after its all said and done is "how bad do you want it?"



    The truth is that most of you don't want it bad enough to start taking personal responsibility.

    You just don't.

    You just aren't the guy who hasn't slept in 3 days because you're so engrossed in what you are doing that all you can think of is launching it.

    You just aren't the guy who will watch that project fail and jump right into the next with equal energy and enthusiasm.

    You just aren't the guy who has the drive and the determination to succeed.

    You just aren't the guy that is strong enough to stand on your own two feet, look in the mirror, blame yourself and stop blaming others.

    To stop blaming tubes.

    To stop blaming piracy.

    To stop blaming surfers.

    To stop blaming credit card processors.

    To stop blaming anything and everything else besides yourself.

    Most of you just simply aren't that guy... of your large group, most of you never will be that guy.

    As an alternative to the blood, sweat and sacrifice it takes to succeed, you'll just call those who do give it 110% and risk it all... "greedy" and "cheaters" and "liars" and "thieves" because that's how you choose to deal with your personal shame.

    Last edited by TheSquealer; 04-25-2014, 08:37 AM.
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    Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

    Rochard
  • MrTrollkien
    So Fucking Banned
    • Mar 2014
    • 2360

    #2
    Albert Einstein failed a lot and, once, he hit his teacher with a chair...

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    • Rochard
      Jägermeister Test Pilot
      • Dec 2001
      • 75733

      #3
      I have a vacation house in Honolulu. I am doing fine.
      Herschel Savage
      Brooklyn, NY

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      • TheSquealer
        Mayor of Thneedville
        • Oct 2004
        • 26174

        #4
        Has this ever been any of you? Even just once in your life?

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        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

        Rochard

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        • TheSquealer
          Mayor of Thneedville
          • Oct 2004
          • 26174

          #5
          Originally posted by Rochard
          I have a vacation house in Honolulu. I am doing fine.
          You have your main site that you worked on for many years that sells traffic on juicy ads offering up an estimated 3 clicks per day to some lucky buyer. Good thing you found a job. Self employment certainly isn't for everyone.
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          Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

          Rochard

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          • PR_Glen
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2006
            • 9058

            #6
            eric thomas is awesome.
            webmaster at pimproll dot com

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            • dyna mo
              just a fucking jerk
              • Dec 2008
              • 68184

              #7
              Originally posted by TheSquealer

              You just aren't the guy who will watch that project fail and jump right into the next with equal energy and enthusiasm.
              I admit I struggle with this. I figure it's mostly due to my becoming emotionally attached to projects, which I also find is important for motivation and energy, double-edged sword.

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              • TheSquealer
                Mayor of Thneedville
                • Oct 2004
                • 26174

                #8
                Originally posted by PR_Glen
                eric thomas is awesome.
                I had been thinking for a long time about a friends kid who was pretty obsessed with success in business at 14/15 and is always trying to pick everyone's brain and is always asking that question "why are you successful when so many aren't" and "how can i be successful".

                I think this is by far the simplest and best answer to those questions.

                I didn't hear this until today. Definitely gonna spend some time looking at what else he's done and written.
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                Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                Rochard

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                • TheSquealer
                  Mayor of Thneedville
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 26174

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                  I admit I struggle with this. I figure it's mostly due to my becoming emotionally attached to projects, which I also find is important for motivation and energy, double-edged sword.
                  But that's just it though. its like fighting. You want to win. You train to win. It's all you think about. You get knocked down or out or hurt... and you have to make that choice and ask that question every single time,... "how bad do i want it" before you can start training again. I started kickboxing again and was really thinking a lot about this. It's very hard work... it's brutal. I'm not an angry 23yr old anymore that has daddy issues. It's infinitely harder as a semi normal, happy, content, well adjusted adult in a great relationship. I've made the decision that i do want it. And before every training session, i am thinking about how bad i hurt, how sore i am and how easy it would be and even arguing to myself that it would be responsible to just skip a day and "recover"... but you have to push. You have to. You have to drive forward.

                  I actually came across the video above while looking at some videos of one of the greatest kickboxers of all time. Ramon Dekkers who i only learned yesterday had a heart attack at 43 and died. But look at these guys... look at how they fight. How they train. 110% all the time, 24/7. Never slowing down. Never giving 85%. They "want it"... and it shows in everything they do, every kick, every punch, every training session etc.

                  This guy went to Thailand and won many titles on their home turf at their own national sport. The King of Thailand even gave him an award for his achievements. Watch this video... and think about this question "am i like this in business",.... "when i get knocked down... what do i do"... "how do i respond" ... "do i stand up, ready to fight again with the same determination or more and an even stronger will to win"

                  Not saying its easy or that i often do. I am just saying that its necessary and important to think about.

                  Last edited by TheSquealer; 04-25-2014, 09:02 AM.
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                  Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                  Rochard

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                  • dyna mo
                    just a fucking jerk
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 68184

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheSquealer
                    But that's just it though. its like fighting. You want to win. You train to win. It's all you think about. You get knocked down or out or hurt... and you have to make that choice and ask that question every single time,... "how bad do i want it" before you can start training again. I started kickboxing again and was really thinking a lot about this. It's very hard work... it's brutal. I'm not an angry 23yr old anymore that has daddy issues. It's infinitely harder as a semi normal, happy, content, well adjusted adult in a great relationship. I've made the decision that i do want it. And before every training session, i am thinking about how bad i hurt, how sore i am and how easy it would be and even arguing to myself that it would be responsible to just skip a day and "recover"... but you have to push. You have to. You have to drive forward.

                    I actually came across the video above while looking at some videos of one of the greatest kickboxers of all time. Ramon Dekkers who i only learned yesterday had a heart attack at 43 and died. But look at these guys... look at how they fight. How they train. 110% all the time, 24/7. Never slowing down. Never giving 85%. They "want it"... and it shows in everything they do, every kick, every punch, every training session etc.

                    This guy went to Thailand and won many titles on their home turf at their own national sport. The King of Thailand even gave him an award for his achievements. Watch this video... and think about this question "am i like this in business",.... "when i get knocked down... what do i do"... "how do i respond" ... "do i stand up, ready to fight again with the same determination or more and an even stronger will to win"

                    Not saying its easy or that i often do. I am just saying that its necessary and important to think about.

                    I hear ya. 25+ years ago, after getting fired from yet another job I was good at but still wouldn't conform to the corporate rules so I got canned, I started working for myself. I've segued projects many times over this time, it's always a struggle, even when launching a new project after a successful project, maybe even especially.

                    For me, always being aware of what I struggle with is just as important as being cognizant of what is easy breezy for me. I've gotten better at the transition between projects over the years, nevertheless, it's one of my areas I always need to keep my eye on, lest it get out of hand and I miss an opportunity.

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                    • Creatine
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 1060

                      #11
                      Now can you make a thread letting me know why i'm successful in adult? I'm dying to know.

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                      • deltav
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2010
                        • 1243

                        #12
                        I know you like to harp about self determination - not a bad thing - but I don't see too many complaining about that stuff on here. You can count the main culprits on one hand, I think the majority of them bailed over the past 3-4 years.
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                        • The Porn Nerd
                          Living The Dream
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 19787

                          #13
                          OK two things:

                          1. I AM "that guy" you mention. LOL Check out my latest project, which I spent four months working on, 7 days a week (while maintaining my primary network/business, too):

                          www.eroticrevenue.com
                          (or click the ad you see here on GFY)

                          But what if it, you know, FAILS? Well guess what? I've got ANOTHER project I'm just about to begin (May 1). And what if THAT fails? There will be another project then, and another, and another....

                          2. You DO need time to recover when it comes to phyisical goals. You even said the great kickboxer who died at 43. Don't be him, take a day or two to recover. 'Pushing' and 'how bad do you want it' should be a lifelong constant therefore a day or two to let your body recover is smart, not being a slacker.
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                          • JA$ON
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1329

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                            Great income streams eventually fade and die as everything around you evolves and changes.
                            Great post, the line above really sticks out for me.

                            Its VERY easy to find a deal / site / source of income that is doing well and to put TOO MUCH time into it. We did not achieve real success until we started following this formula....

                            1. Find deals that don't require a lot of time to maintain (they may at first during the setting up phase, but getting income streams that run virtually on auto pilot are the key)

                            2. Be greedy by NOT being greedy ! If I come across a small deal that has the potential to make, lets say $5,000 a month, but will take 10-20 hours a week of time to maintain. That is not something I can give to a project for that return, BUT I can set it up and hire someone (preferably outsourced, overseas labor) to maintain it for me at a cost of 2,000 a month.

                            I'd net $3,000 and just need to oversee things with maybe 10-15 min a week of my time. Now I can go repeat the process.....

                            To often people will put ALL their time into a project because the want 100% of the $ it can generate. How many people here make a decent living, working crazy hours updating and working on projects where the workload could be handed over to someone else? Id say most. Sure, maybe you'd make 1/2 the net....maybe only 1/3, but that formula lets you go spend your time looking for opportunities, doing testing...then when you find a deal that works, you pass it on and get looking for the next one.

                            I like $, and with the formula above we are able to take advantage of any deal we find that works, regardless of its size. We have a slew of programers and designers that are always working on new projects. Like you mentioned, ALL projects come to an end, but if you always have multiple projects / streams of income in the pipe, you will maintain stability and success. We have projects that take up 5-10 hours of our guys time a week and only make a couple thousand a month for us, and we have larger ones that require 2 guys, 40 hours a week that do much, much bigger numbers.

                            If you can find an opportunity that can generate even a small amount of $ with some consistency, there is NO reason anyone can't follow this formula and do very well.

                            Now, being able to spot the opportunities is where the magic is, but I cringe when I hear people say, I have so many things I want to do, I just don't have the time.

                            Footnote: IMHO if you are not doing well and have cash to play with....stay away from HUGE projects that will take up all your time and money for months and months, hoping for the home run. Those are great if you have cash and can have other people working on them for you, but most deals / projects DONT work out. The key is testing as small as possible to get proof of concept, then scale up using revenues from the projects operations.

                            To many people just work HARD and not SMART 2c

                            wow, even I wouldn't read all that, LOL
                            Last edited by JA$ON; 04-25-2014, 09:31 AM.

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                            • The Porn Nerd
                              Living The Dream
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 19787

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JA$ON
                              Great post, the line above really sticks out for me.

                              Its VERY easy to find a deal / site / source of income that is doing well and to put TOO MUCH time into it. We did not achieve real success until we started following this formula....

                              1. Find deals that don't require a lot of time to maintain (they may at first during the setting up phase, but getting income streams that run virtually on auto pilot are the key)

                              2. Be greedy by NOT being greedy ! If I come across a small deal that has the potential to make, lets say $5,000 a month, but will take 10-20 hours a week of time to maintain. That is not something I can give to a project for that return, BUT I can set it up and hire someone (preferably outsourced, overseas labor) to maintain it for me at a cost of 2,000 a month.

                              I'd net $3,000 and just need to oversee things with maybe 10-15 min a week of my time. Now I can go repeat the process.....

                              To often people will put ALL their time into a project because the want 100% of the $ it can generate. How many people here make a decent living, working crazy hours updating and working on projects where the workload could be handed over to someone else? Id say most. Sure, maybe you'd make 1/2 the net....maybe only 1/3, but that formula lets you go spend your time looking for opportunities, doing testing...then when you find a deal that works, you pass it on and get looking for the next one.

                              I like $, and with the formula above we are able to take advantage of any deal we find that works, regardless of its size. We have a slew of programers and designers that are always working on new projects. Like you mentioned, ALL projects come to an end, but if you always have multiple projects / streams of income in the pipe, you will maintain stability and success. We have projects that take up 5-10 hours of our guys time a week and only make a couple thousand a month for us, and we have larger ones that require 2 guys, 40 hours a week that do much, much bigger numbers.

                              If you can find an opportunity that can generate even a small amount of $ with some consistency, there is NO reason anyone can't follow this formula and do very well.

                              Now, being able to spot the opportunities is where the magic is, but I cringe when I hear people say, I have so many things I want to do, I just don't have the time.

                              Footnote: IMHO if you are not doing well and have cash to play with....stay away from HUGE projects that will take up all your time and money for months and months, hoping for the home run. Those are great if you have cash and can have other people working on them for you, but most deals / projects DONT work out. The key is testing as small as possible to get proof of concept, then scale up using revenues from the projects operations.

                              wow, even I wouldn't read all that, LOL
                              Great post, great advice and GREAT strategy.
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                              • JA$ON
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 1329

                                #16
                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                Great post, great advice and GREAT strategy.
                                Thanks

                                I swear it was only going to be a couple of sentences, but then I just started rambling, lol

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                                • BlackCrayon
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 19634

                                  #17
                                  the thing is do i want to spend my life trying and failing over and over again in hopes of possibly eventually succeeding at something? how many years of my life will i have to sacrifice to do this? etc.

                                  i've been doing this since i was 20 have had it all go to shit and have to start over not only from nothing but from being very deep in debt several times. i am still paying off debts from the last failure at the end of 2008. if i end up failing this time i don't know if i will be able to afford to start over doing something else again. i've poured my life, all my money, sacrificed time and relationships all on something that might just end up with me in massive debt again. i keep trucking on because, what other choice is there. there are days when i feel this will really make it, and others where i feel its all falling apart. its not so easy to keep a constant positive attitude.
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                                  • L-Pink
                                    working on my tan
                                    • Mar 2005
                                    • 39151

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                    Great income streams eventually fade and die as everything around you evolves and changes.
                                    And the changes sometimes won't make sense. Things just change despite your efforts. Always keep this in the back of your mind and be ready. It's cost me in the past.

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                                    • Matt 26z
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2002
                                      • 18481

                                      #19
                                      It's the same as mainstream really. Everyone wants traffic and the best way to get traffic is to give something away for free. That slashes profits, but it opens doors that otherwise might not have been there for the average webmaster. There is an ongoing race to the bottom though. There's always someone happy to accept less for providing more.
                                      Last edited by Matt 26z; 04-25-2014, 10:12 AM.

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                                      • TheSquealer
                                        Mayor of Thneedville
                                        • Oct 2004
                                        • 26174

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                        the thing is do i want to spend my life trying and failing over and over again in hopes of possibly eventually succeeding at something? how many years of my life will i have to sacrifice to do this? etc.

                                        i've been doing this since i was 20 have had it all go to shit and have to start over not only from nothing but from being very deep in debt several times. i am still paying off debts from the last failure at the end of 2008. if i end up failing this time i don't know if i will be able to afford to start over doing something else again. i've poured my life, all my money, sacrificed time and relationships all on something that might just end up with me in massive debt again. i keep trucking on because, what other choice is there. there are days when i feel this will really make it, and others where i feel its all falling apart. its not so easy to keep a constant positive attitude.
                                        Success is never easy for anyone, even when it appears to be. Just as with success in anything in life... with relationships, with family, with work, with business, it requires sacrifice, determination and the persistent drive to make it happen.

                                        Reading your post sounds like that of someone who is planning to fail, not succeed. I put everything I had a few years back into a business and then was grinding constantly - waking up at 4:30 and getting home at 8 or 9pm.

                                        I let all my online stuff go. I wanted to focus on my business.

                                        After 2 years of grinding and feeling like I could easily make more online and should have never left, I decided I was going to make extra money and start working online again.

                                        I thought long and hard about how to do it and where to start with little and turn it Ito a bankroll I could grow.. I went to a friend and said "listen, please tell me one product and one traffic source, I'll sign up under you and make you some money". He did.

                                        I started with a few hundeed dollars. In a few months, it was 10,000.00 (maybe 1,5yrs ago). Just from buying more and more traffic from one country for one specific thing.

                                        The point being that how you think and how I think is VERY different. My thinking is "what do I want to achieve and how can I achieve it?" And I reason thought it until I figure it out... and your thinking is "why try, I've already decided it's not worth it".

                                        I found answers, you found excuses.

                                        It really is that simple.
                                        Last edited by TheSquealer; 04-25-2014, 10:27 AM.
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                                        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                        Rochard

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                                        • Bladewire
                                          StraightBro
                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 56228

                                          #21
                                          Assuming everyone who reads your thread title is failing, and you know why


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                                          • deltav
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2010
                                            • 1243

                                            #22
                                            What Ja$on said about upscaling and delegating I think is good stuff, and is what separates those of us who are narrowly focused and therefore vulnerable from those who've got a bunch of diverse income streams. I actually struggle with that some in my online projects, being a one-man operation. In my mainstream offline ventures I have no problem subcontracting work out left & right, but haven't yet built a comfort zone for doing it in adult...
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                                            • BlackCrayon
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 19634

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                              Success is never easy for anyone, even when it appears to be. Just as with success in anything in life... with relationships, with family, with work, with business, it requires sacrifice, determination and the persistent drive to make it happen.

                                              Reading your post sounds like that of someone who is planning to fail, not succeed. I put everything I had a few years back into a business and then was grinding constantly - waking up at 4:30 and getting home at 8 or 9pm.

                                              I let all my online stuff go. I wanted to focus on my business.

                                              After 2 years of grinding and feeling like I could easily make more online and should have never left, I decided I was going to make extra money and start working online again.

                                              I thought long and hard about how to do it and where to start with little and turn it Ito a bankroll I could grow.. I went to a friend and said "listen, please tell me one product and one traffic source, I'll sign up under you and make you some money". He did.

                                              I started with a few hundeed dollars. In a few months, it was 10,000.00 (maybe 1,5yrs ago). Just from buying more and more traffic from one country for one specific thing.

                                              The point being that how you think and how I think is VERY different. My thinking is "what do I want to achieve and how can I achieve it?" And I reason thought it until I figure it out... and your thinking is "why try, I've already decided it's not worth it".

                                              I found answers, you found excuses.

                                              It really is that simple.
                                              it may be that simple when all you have to worry about is yourself. it was much easier to take risks in my 20's before i had a wife, kid, mortgage, car payments, etc. if i fail, they all suffer. not just me.

                                              despite feeling hopeless at times i still work hard, 10-12 hours a day 7 days a week (if i worked any longer i wouldn't' even know my child). though even the time i am 'off' i am never really off. i am determined but i also live in reality where i know the possibility of failing is bigger than the possibility of succeeding. it doesn't mean i don't try or don't want success. its just being realistic. and my definition of success isn't just making a living. i make a living doing what i do but don't consider myself successful as i am not at the level i'd like to be.

                                              after my last venture crashed in 2008 i was left with 100k of debt, 30 of which i am still paying off. on top of that i had to start from zero. what i did before didn't work anymore. it took 2 and half years just to be profitable. i make about 50-60k a year now which is probably nothing for someone so great as you but for me, its a living and i am happy to at least be making that though not satisfied. i am 35 now, will i ever hit it big? unlikely but if i do i will appreciate what i have and what it took to get there.
                                              Last edited by BlackCrayon; 04-25-2014, 10:40 AM.
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                                              • dyna mo
                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                • Dec 2008
                                                • 68184

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by deltav
                                                What Ja$on said about upscaling and delegating I think is good stuff, and is what separates those of us who are narrowly focused and therefore vulnerable from those who've got a bunch of diverse income streams. I actually struggle with that some in my online projects, being a one-man operation. In my mainstream offline ventures I have no problem subcontracting work out left & right, but haven't yet built a comfort zone for doing it in adult...
                                                A key part of that which was not mentioned is it introduces a whole other level- people management.

                                                That's huge and impactful.

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                                                • TheSquealer
                                                  Mayor of Thneedville
                                                  • Oct 2004
                                                  • 26174

                                                  #25
                                                  @BlackCrayon

                                                  I get it, you have nothing but objections. I don't use plugrush much. I uploaded 300.00 and turned it into maybe 800 or so in a couple weeks with simple mobile buys for dating and app downloads and no optimization or testing. Just a simple test.

                                                  But you can't do that for the endless litany of reasons you mentioned.

                                                  "Whether you believe you can or cannot.... you're right"
                                                  Last edited by TheSquealer; 04-25-2014, 10:48 AM.
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                                                  Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                  Rochard

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                                                  • The Porn Nerd
                                                    Living The Dream
                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                    • 19787

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by deltav
                                                    What Ja$on said about upscaling and delegating I think is good stuff, and is what separates those of us who are narrowly focused and therefore vulnerable from those who've got a bunch of diverse income streams. I actually struggle with that some in my online projects, being a one-man operation. In my mainstream offline ventures I have no problem subcontracting work out left & right, but haven't yet built a comfort zone for doing it in adult...
                                                    I'm in the same boat, essentially being a "one man show". But I figured out how to use ODesk and outsourced labor for the 'heavy lifting' (editing, uploading) that was taking up 70% of my daily time.

                                                    It took a few weeks to tweak the operation and get the employees working the way I wanted them to but now it's fairly smooth. I was looking at my weekly payroll last week and thought: "Well, I could lay off about 5 people here and save a few hundred a week..." but then I thought about how little time I have now, juggling so many programs, sites and projects. I could never go back to that kind of grind. So the few hundred I'm paying the employees, while it looks like a lot especially during a slow sales week, the alternative is no life at all, 16 hour days, 7 days a week.

                                                    Try ODesk for some basic tasks, to start. We're talking maybe $80 a week for a full-time employee. Good luck man!!
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                                                    • BlackCrayon
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 19634

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                      @BlackCrayon

                                                      I get it, you have nothing but objections. I don't use plugrush much. I uploaded 300.00 and turned it into maybe 800 or so in a couple weeks with simple mobile buys for dating and app downloads and no optimization or testing. Just a simple test.

                                                      But you can't do that for the endless litany of reasons you mentioned.

                                                      "Whether you believe you can or cannot.... you're right"
                                                      well if you're speaking purely about adult, i guess i shouldn't comment. i stopped doing adult for the most part in 2004. the same challenges exist elsewhere but i got tired of trying to sell a product that was given away for free. i'm guessing you're the kind of guy who would sooner die than admit that someone else might have valid point.
                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                      • TheSquealer
                                                        Mayor of Thneedville
                                                        • Oct 2004
                                                        • 26174

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                        well if you're speaking purely about adult, i guess i shouldn't comment. i stopped doing adult for the most part in 2004. the same challenges exist elsewhere but i got tired of trying to sell a product that was given away for free. i'm guessing you're the kind of guy who would sooner die than admit that someone else might have valid point.
                                                        You have your reasons for not even trying. Dating is not given away for free. Mobile apps aren't given away for free. High quite, exclusive adult content sells well. There are many many things to do to make money.

                                                        My point is that you make a choice and trying to rationalize it as life doing stuff to you and as all being beyond your control. That's not true no matter how often you repeat it. I could show you haw to turn hundreds into 1000's right now but it would not help you because you don't want it.

                                                        Everyone has issues. Everyone struggles. Everyone builds, watched it fall apart and then has to choose whether or not to rebuild. The choices of "what is my next move" is all yours, no matter how you frame them.
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                                                        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                        • JA$ON
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2007
                                                          • 1329

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by deltav
                                                          What Ja$on said about upscaling and delegating I think is good stuff, and is what separates those of us who are narrowly focused and therefore vulnerable from those who've got a bunch of diverse income streams. I actually struggle with that some in my online projects, being a one-man operation. In my mainstream offline ventures I have no problem subcontracting work out left & right, but haven't yet built a comfort zone for doing it in adult...
                                                          Its a new way of working if you are used to doing everything yourself But try it out on a small project, I promise you, you'll kick yourself for not doing it sooner.

                                                          We receive payments every month from (and this is a guess because I honestly don't know off the top of my head) 15 companies, encompassing 20+ individual projects / networks / investments. Some grow, some slow down, others stop all together. But as long as we are adding new projects we find our revenue doesn't fluctuate more than 10-12% every month (while always growing year over year)

                                                          If we did the heavy lifting ourselves, Id guess we could only handle 2-3 projects at a time.

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                                                          • faxxaff
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                            • 2134

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                            I actually came across the video above while looking at some videos of one of the greatest kickboxers of all time. Ramon Dekkers who i only learned yesterday had a heart attack at 43 and died. But look at these guys... look at how they fight. How they train. 110% all the time, 24/7. Never slowing down. Never giving 85%. They "want it"... and it shows in everything they do, every kick, every punch, every training session etc.

                                                            This guy went to Thailand and won many titles on their home turf at their own national sport. The King of Thailand even gave him an award for his achievements. Watch this video... and think about this question "am i like this in business",.... "when i get knocked down... what do i do"... "how do i respond" ... "do i stand up, ready to fight again with the same determination or more and an even stronger will to win"

                                                            Not saying its easy or that i often do. I am just saying that its necessary and important to think about.
                                                            Dekkers was a great fighter. People liked him. But he was a hopeless alcoholic, too. That's why he died aged 43. Self-destruction!
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                                                            • Mediamix
                                                              Dutch Webmaster!
                                                              • Sep 2013
                                                              • 3228

                                                              #31
                                                              This thread delivers some hardcore motivation. Thanks!
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                                                              • TheSquealer
                                                                Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                • Oct 2004
                                                                • 26174

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by faxxaff
                                                                Dekkers was a great fighter. People liked him. But he was a hopeless alcoholic, too. That's why he died aged 43. Self-destruction!
                                                                Yeah he had some demons for sure. You can see that just by watching him fight. But at least he found a legal outlet for it rather than hurting people outside the ring.
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                                                                Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                Rochard

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                                                                • BlackCrayon
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 19634

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                  You have your reasons for not even trying. Dating is not given away for free. Mobile apps aren't given away for free. High quite, exclusive adult content sells well. There are many many things to do to make money.

                                                                  My point is that you make a choice and trying to rationalize it as life doing stuff to you and as all being beyond your control. That's not true no matter how often you repeat it. I could show you haw to turn hundreds into 1000's right now but it would not help you because you don't want it.

                                                                  Everyone has issues. Everyone struggles. Everyone builds, watched it fall apart and then has to choose whether or not to rebuild. The choices of "what is my next move" is all yours, no matter how you frame them.
                                                                  i may have excuses of why one thing or another may not work but that doesn't mean i don't or won't try. all of this chest beating and overly positive slogans sound good to say on top of a soap box but no matter what, no one thinks that way inside their head all the time. everyone has doubts, everyone can second guess themselves. i'm sure it even happens to you occasionally.

                                                                  i will never give up trying to be my definition of successful which is for me, making at least 500k a year after taxes and expenses but in the meantime i also have to make memories with my son, take time out to visit my parents and upkeep of my home. i just hope i don't spend the next 30 years trying to make it to only die one day sitting at my computer instead of spending time with the people i care about.
                                                                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                  • OneHungLo
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                    • 40906

                                                                    #34

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                                                                    • TheSquealer
                                                                      Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                      • 26174

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                      i may have excuses of why one thing or another may not work but that doesn't mean i don't or won't try. all of this chest beating and overly positive slogans sound good to say on top of a soap box but no matter what, no one thinks that way inside their head all the time. everyone has doubts, everyone can second guess themselves. i'm sure it even happens to you occasionally.
                                                                      Of course people have setbacks and doubt and failures. I said this again and again. It's not easy. The only question is when you doubt, when you have setbacks, when things go wrong... what do you do next? How that question is answered is exactly what sets people apart.

                                                                      If your idea of success is being a great father and that is what really makes you happy, that is really great. I can't knock that at all. I gave up a huge business with hundreds of employees for the woman i loved. I understand that. I respect that. At the end of it all, you have to be happy and you have to give your child the best life you can, full of love and support and guidance.

                                                                      But its also not what i am talking about with this thread.
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                                                                      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                      Rochard

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                                                                      • Harmon
                                                                        ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ)
                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                        • 20012

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Nice nick aka nexcom28 is a failure. He is a failure due to retardation though.
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                                                                        • SomeCreep
                                                                          :glugglug
                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 26118

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Will work for food.

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                                                                          • dyna mo
                                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                            • 68184

                                                                            #38
                                                                            real blues




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                                                                            • deltav
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2010
                                                                              • 1243

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                              real blues
                                                                              Junior Kimbrough is the man! RIP.
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                                                                              • dyna mo
                                                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                                • 68184

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by deltav
                                                                                Junior Kimbrough is the man! RIP.
                                                                                I'm with you

                                                                                I've got all his shit, killer killer !

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                                                                                • lazycash
                                                                                  Troll Patrol
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 15214

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer

                                                                                  I didn't hear this until today. Definitely gonna spend some time looking at what else he's done and written.
                                                                                  I try and listen to ET at least once a day. Sure some of his stuff is cliche, but his delivery is very motivating.
                                                                                  "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                                                  Its crazy..."

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                                                                                  • CyberHustler
                                                                                    Masterbaiter
                                                                                    • Feb 2006
                                                                                    • 28736

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Some people just suck at certain shit. Like I cant cook for shit, even with instructions, but I can get them ebony sign ups tho.
                                                                                    “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                                                    • Jel
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                      • 6904

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Nice thread, and

                                                                                      Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                      "Whether you believe you can or cannot.... you're right"
                                                                                      BOOM! spot on.

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                                                                                      • edgeprod
                                                                                        Permanently Gone
                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 10019

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Nice thread idea.

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                                                                                        • Relentless
                                                                                          www.EngineFood.com
                                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                                          • 5697

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Ja$on, terrific post. One of the best I've seen on here in a while. Thanks.

                                                                                          One thing I'd add is look for projects that integrate with your other existing projects. I have a hand in a bunch of different things, and if they weren't integrated it would be impossible.

                                                                                          The way to make it work is to find projects you can integrate so that an hour invested in one of them also counts as fifteen minutes in another and 40 minutes in another and 10 minutes in a fourth one, and so on.

                                                                                          Any time a project you do yourself is taking your time and focus away from another project rather than stacking value, it's likely that you are better off doing one or the other instead of both.
                                                                                          Last edited by Relentless; 04-25-2014, 07:12 PM.


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                                                                                          • TheSquealer
                                                                                            Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                                            • 26174

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                            And the changes sometimes won't make sense. Things just change despite your efforts. Always keep this in the back of your mind and be ready. It's cost me in the past.
                                                                                            ...never forget that momentum is a cruel mistress. She can turn on a dime or the smallest mistake. She is ever searching for the weak place in your armor, that one tiny thing you forgot to prepare for

                                                                                            this nike commercial was great too.
                                                                                            .
                                                                                            Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                                            Rochard

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                                                                                            • Diomed
                                                                                              Converting like it's 1999
                                                                                              • Jan 2009
                                                                                              • 6167

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              What a faggy fucking thread.

                                                                                              It's a shame good taste doesn't relegate itself to more people.

                                                                                              Perhaps it's just me.. but rarely in my life have I thought of myself in the second person.. and I think it good taste not to. Also to not take yourself too seriously.

                                                                                              The only thing worse than that are people who ask "why".

                                                                                              Fuck yourself, and be a mature - responsible - human being. Keep shit real and you'll be just fine.
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                                                                                              • xxxjay
                                                                                                Tube groupie.
                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                • 13482

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                I came across this watching a Muay Thai video and it was the background audio to people training. I looked it up to find the source. Very thought provoking (or certainly should be)

                                                                                                If you find yourself disagreeing or irritated with what he's saying or think he's just flat out wrong, you'll be a loser until you get it.

                                                                                                There is always competition.
                                                                                                There are always hardships.
                                                                                                There are always changing markets and environments.
                                                                                                There are always hurdles.
                                                                                                There will always be some wins.
                                                                                                With those wins will come many crushing defeats.
                                                                                                You will inevitably fail at most of the ventures you try.
                                                                                                Great income streams eventually fade and die as everything around you evolves and changes.



                                                                                                The only question that remains after its all said and done is "how bad do you want it?"



                                                                                                The truth is that most of you don't want it bad enough to start taking personal responsibility.

                                                                                                You just don't.

                                                                                                You just aren't the guy who hasn't slept in 3 days because you're so engrossed in what you are doing that all you can think of is launching it.

                                                                                                You just aren't the guy who will watch that project fail and jump right into the next with equal energy and enthusiasm.

                                                                                                You just aren't the guy who has the drive and the determination to succeed.

                                                                                                You just aren't the guy that is strong enough to stand on your own two feet, look in the mirror, blame yourself and stop blaming others.

                                                                                                To stop blaming tubes.

                                                                                                To stop blaming piracy.

                                                                                                To stop blaming surfers.

                                                                                                To stop blaming credit card processors.

                                                                                                To stop blaming anything and everything else besides yourself.

                                                                                                Most of you just simply aren't that guy... of your large group, most of you never will be that guy.

                                                                                                As an alternative to the blood, sweat and sacrifice it takes to succeed, you'll just call those who do give it 110% and risk it all... "greedy" and "cheaters" and "liars" and "thieves" because that's how you choose to deal with your personal shame.

                                                                                                I blame the tubes.......











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                                                                                                • romn
                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                  • Mar 2014
                                                                                                  • 41

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I go by this:

                                                                                                  Work Hard
                                                                                                  Play Hard

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                                                                                                  • Paul
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                                                                    • 2637

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                                    well if you're speaking purely about adult, i guess i shouldn't comment. i stopped doing adult for the most part in 2004. the same challenges exist elsewhere but i got tired of trying to sell a product that was given away for free. i'm guessing you're the kind of guy who would sooner die than admit that someone else might have valid point.
                                                                                                    Until you change your defeatist attitude you're never going to succeed

                                                                                                    Watch this for some inspiration

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