Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20060468)

Again, another good fairy tale is the one you believe about actually being able to stop the government from doing what it wants to do because you own a gun. I get it, it's a masculine ego fantasy thing, but you guys are just kidding yourselves there.

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060402)

Yes, lets be afraid of all the sane people who have passed Federal background checks for the specific purpose of owning and legally carrying firearms. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20060434)

You missed the first question . . . what is their good beer? I am headed to Total Wine and might pick one up.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20060483)

LOLZ, was hopin you didn't notice that, eh, but honestly, I can't recall any specific Canadian beers to recommend. I had family in Washington St years ago and also took a vaca up through Strathcona Provincial Park years ago and subsequently had Canadian beers which I recall being tasty enough.

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20060480)

You can get a concealed carry with 2hrs of education here that costs $30 (with groupon) and then just have to pass a background check.

Just cause granny has a clean record doesn't mean she can see who she is shooting. So yes, I'm sticking to what I said before

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060486)

For the record....And I think I've stated something similar here before....


I'm not suggesting that more guns or even less gun laws is a good idea. What I'm saying is that this country (The U.S.) is built on firearms. If the guns were not here and we had similar policies as other countries then I'd be fine with that. As is, that is not the case.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm saying this is the United State of America.

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060490)

Let's see the data you have on blind grannys shooting the wrong people.

Are you afraid of the Easter Bunny too?

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20060294)

They also just had fucking muskets back then with marauding British around

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20060493)

The United States was built on tobacco more then guns. I'm sure tobacco isn't regulated at all either

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20060461)

Being scared and not trusting are two completely different things.

Do you see them as the same? That's a little sad.

We are scared of things that we don't know or don't understand. I believe our government is capable of a great many stupid, horrible things, as non-Americans point out on GFY on a daily basis. My belief in having the right to be prepared for those stupid, horrible things, makes me the opposite of scared.

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20060496)

If you search for gun accidents in google it's hilarious.

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060497)

Fuck this.

I'm gonna go jerk off in my gun vault.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20060489)

And I am sure the Canadians will list a bunch of [what they consider] good Canadian beer; it just isn't available anywhere other than their brewpub/tasting room. :(

Originally Posted by Evil1 (Post 20060503)

Oh you mean they had weapons that were equal to the threat?

Supreme court already settled that long ago.. do some learnin'

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20060468)

Again, another good fairy tale is the one you believe about actually being able to stop the government from doing what it wants to do because you own a gun. I get it, it's a masculine ego fantasy thing, but you guys are just kidding yourselves there.

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20060291)

Why am I stupid? Educate me. Why were guns and guys playing militia necessary that day?




Lol! Good point. Will do. ;)




Because I love Americans? :)

But seriously, it just seems to me (Our news covers lots of US events) that the gun laws are too relaxed, and that people are afraid of losing their guns, and that the Stand your Ground Law is insane... it's just a point of view from someone outside, looking in.




Bahahahahahahaha that is great...


But seriously everyone... no need to get bent out of shape over this.

Let me ask a question: Sure, everyone is allowed to own a gun, and sure, everyone here on GFY will use it to target practice or in self defence only. Everyone on GFY passes a background check, etc etc. Everyone is a law abiding citizen and you deserve to own a gun if you want one. CHECK.

So now then, why not pass a law, to keep guns out of the hands of criminals? Of crazy people? Why not make it illegal to carry a gun into a school? Or a bar? Do you not think that this is going too far?

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060512)

Once again....Off to jerk off on my guns.

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060527)

When you are ready to shoot don't get confused - I would hate to hear that you had a nasty masturbatory accident...

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20060523)

I'd love you to point me to where I can find the weapons to fight off an invading countries army. I'll take hundred tanks and an aircraft carrier, do you take visa?

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20060353)

I don't really get bent out of shape about gun control either way, but one funny thing I've noticed...

When you start talking to real pro-gun folks about why their right to own assault rifles & whatnot is so important, 99% of the time it comes out that they have this juvenile fantasy of being the last bastion of Freedom & Liberty for this hazy future time when the big bad gubmint truly decides to take over. They really feel it's a plausible scenario that they and other gun owners will band together into like an effective resistance force to protect fellow citizens from the Feds or the US Army or the One World Government i.e. UN.

It's just a fairyland left over from playing cowboys & indians at age 8, what cracks me up is that these grown men take it dead serious and have no idea how childish they sound.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20060529)

I used to tell a joke about eating spaghetti accidently made with BBs that had a punchline about jacking off & shooting the dog.

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060388)

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060408)

You have a lot of faith in your Federal government agencies - I wouldn't bet my life on the wankers we have here in the UK...

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060419)

It's interesting you seem to have made the same point - You are both scared of your government...

I don't fear my government - I don't agree with them on most policies, but I have never ever been scared of them.....

That's interesting...

Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 20060548)

Your country is only free from NAZI boots on your neck because of the US. It's part of the historical records of Japan and Germany that they were afraid of the losses they would incurr if they invaded US soil. You can thank the 2nd amendment fo that too!

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20060428)

well since all illegal guns start out as legal guns at some point you could argue that the less legal guns, the less illegal guns there would be. this is what happens in canada. its so hard to get access to the crazy kind of semi auto guns that are readily available in the US so they get smuggled in and sold to criminals. if they were as hard to get in the US as they were here in canada, chances are there would be a lot less out there to be smuggled.

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20060441)

What about the fact that allowing guns increases chances that "YOU" is the person who busts into basketball game and points a gun at someone?

So basically you choose between:

a) decent chance that someone busts into basketball game, but you have a gun to try and protect (no guaranteed protection, just better chances).
b) absolute minimum chance that someone busts into basketball game.

Take that into consideration.

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060444)

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"The best available Canadian research indicates that firearms used in self-defence by law-abiding Canadians exceeds the total number of gun-related deaths by a ratio of forty to one, saving more lives each year than are lost through the misuse of guns. In Canada, a civilian uses a firearm in defence of self, family or property (excluding police, military and security guard duties) an average of once every nine minutes, and half of these incidents involve defence against human threats. Firearms are used over twice as often in self-defence as they are in criminal violence, and save at least 3,300 lives every year. The self-defence use of firearms saves the Canadian economy hundreds of millions of dollars annually by protecting property against theft and vandalism, and reduces medical costs by preventing injury from criminal assault and wild animal attacks."

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060444)

#9
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http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/tenmyths.html

"The best available Canadian research indicates that firearms used in self-defence by law-abiding Canadians exceeds the total number of gun-related deaths by a ratio of forty to one, saving more lives each year than are lost through the misuse of guns. In Canada, a civilian uses a firearm in defence of self, family or property (excluding police, military and security guard duties) an average of once every nine minutes, and half of these incidents involve defence against human threats. Firearms are used over twice as often in self-defence as they are in criminal violence, and save at least 3,300 lives every year. The self-defence use of firearms saves the Canadian economy hundreds of millions of dollars annually by protecting property against theft and vandalism, and reduces medical costs by preventing injury from criminal assault and wild animal attacks."

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 20060553)

Passing a new law here making guns illegal, would not make the millions of guns here suddenly evaporate. So what you would end up with is less legal guns, the MORE illegal guns there would be. This is what happens in Chicago.

And something you Canadians (and other foreigners) dont understand is that no matter how much you whine and bitch, you're NOT going to change our 2nd Amendment or any of our gun laws. Our own people that want to change it, cant get it done. And we really dont care what someone living in other countries think about it. So kindly fuck right off :thumbsup

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20060562)

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 20060548)

Your country is only free from NAZI boots on your neck because of the US.

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20060493)

The United States was built on tobacco more then guns. I'm sure tobacco isn't regulated at all either

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20060567)

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060552)

We don't need an amendment to carry arms during war time - On the subject of war - We have covered your asses on more than one occasion as well...