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EddyTheDog 04-23-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20060220)
Tanks, rockets, and nuclear weapons are not protected by the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment protects only arms which one may "keep" and "bear." "The term (p.13)'arms' as used by the drafters of the constitutions probably was intended to include those weapons used by settlers for both personal and military defense... The term 'arms' would not have included cannons nor other heavy ordnance not kept by militiamen or private citizens." State v. Kessler, 289 Or. 359, 368, 614 P.2d 94, 98 (1980).

I do like American law - I think it is because you have the 'absolute' of the Constitution to work from...

CyberHustler 04-23-2014 02:40 PM

Canadians is actually some cool muh fuckas, even in the summer time. When I was stationed in Fort Drum I use to go up to Kingston, Canada to fuck around with the clubs, ladies and what not on the weekends in July. I only went in July because it seemed like it was only 2 seasons up there, winter and july. I actually had a chance to meet the canadian military one day when I was lookin for a hotel to crash, he was the coolest dude you'd ever meet. Nigga aint want no problems, just cool as polar bear shit. He wasnt worried about american guns, he was just interested in puttin me on this little secret strip club joint, where the bitches let you touch all on and in them and let you fuck. Why can't the rest of yall niggas be like him?

The Porn Nerd 04-23-2014 02:43 PM

Canadians you need to be quiet now.
Shhhh! Shhhh!

The hockey playoffs are going on now, worry about that. :D

directfiesta 04-23-2014 02:44 PM

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Jim_Gunn 04-23-2014 02:44 PM

Why do you think that Canadians like yourself or Brits like Piers Morgan should have anything to say about what goes on in the U.S.?

baddog 04-23-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20060168)
not to mention they got all that good beer and weed, you'd think they'd be more chill, let people be people.

What good beer would that be? CA has better weed (and beer) than Ca; ask any Amsterdam coffee shop owner.

Grapesoda 04-23-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20060054)
Too many Gun nuts are getting too many guns. You guys need to push back against the NRA's incredibly bad "advice" and demand tough gun laws, background checks, limits on the types of guns (no one needs assault rifles for fucksakes), and when and where you can carry guns.

Cases in point:

45 People Shot in Chicago this past easter:
http://www.blacknews.com/news/chicag...l#.U1gSk15Mm3B

OK to carry guns into bars, some government buildings and places of worship in GA:
http://www.northwestgeorgianews.com/...a4bcf6878.html

and

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...ng-gun-rights/

And then there was these guys playing Militia last week during the Bundy Cattle thing:

http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources...A3G1O3B00[

Is all of this really necessary? Really? Don't you think things are just a little bit out of control? Wouldn't the world be a better place if you could swap your guns for flowers? (My brother hates it when I say that lol!)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...84756253_n.jpg

EddyTheDog 04-23-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 20060242)
Why do you think that Canadians like yourself or Brits like Piers Morgan should have anything to say about what goes on in the U.S.?

I am not anti american in any way - However, you do have a habit of inflicting your values on those closest to you and my government at least loves to roll over - I am guessing that it's similar in Canada - That's why we have something to say about America...

EddyTheDog 04-23-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20060253)


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 04-23-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20060246)
What good beer would that be? CA has better weed (and beer) than Ca; ask any Amsterdam coffee shop owner.

I didn't say they had they better weed or beer than cali. I said they have good weed and beer. I've had both.

Jel 04-23-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff (Post 20060076)
Its not like we are hurting for people.

:1orglaugh

dyna mo 04-23-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060254)
I am not anti american in any way - However, you do have a habit of inflicting your values on those closest to you and my government at least loves to roll over - I am guessing that it's similar in Canada - That's why we have something to say about America...

you realize that's flipped flopped right? You're saying since UK and Canada rollover that you're entitled to have a say in our affairs, especially pointing out the ones taken issue with.

If those nations are gonna rollover, well.

EddyTheDog 04-23-2014 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20060265)
you realize that's flipped flopped right? You're saying since UK and Canada rollover that you're entitled to have a say in our affairs, especially pointing out the ones taken issue with.

If those nations are gonna rollover, well.

What happens in the US does not stay in the US - It has an affect on the rest of us - Some countries like the UK like it - Some don't - We are all entitled to an opinion on the things that effect us...

DAMNMAN 04-23-2014 03:06 PM

Guns owned by citizens are the only thing that keeps us free. (-ish)

Read the coming race by Bulwer Lord Lyton. Everybody should have and carry one, the world would be more civilised. ODDLY ENOUGH!!!

dyna mo 04-23-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060273)
What happens in the US does not stay in the US - It has an effect on the rest of us - Some countries like the UK like it - Some don't - We are all entitled to an opinion on the things that affect us...

Sure, I get that. But at the same time countries go along with the US just because. I'm saying maybe it should be the other way around.

But that also doesn't have much to do with **********'s biased troll threads such as these.

arock10 04-23-2014 03:14 PM

Why do we need gun control laws? People die from gun violence anyway...

Why do cars have seat belts? People die in car wrecks anyway...



I still don't understand why I'm not allowed to own a fully auto rocket launcher, 2nd amendment says so.

2MuchMark 04-23-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 20060210)
You're so stupid, it's just almost unbelievable. Almost.

Why am I stupid? Educate me. Why were guns and guys playing militia necessary that day?


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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20060239)
Canadians you need to be quiet now.
Shhhh! Shhhh!

The hockey playoffs are going on now, worry about that. :D

Lol! Good point. Will do. ;)


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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 20060242)
Why do you think that Canadians like yourself or Brits like Piers Morgan should have anything to say about what goes on in the U.S.?

Because I love Americans? :)

But seriously, it just seems to me (Our news covers lots of US events) that the gun laws are too relaxed, and that people are afraid of losing their guns, and that the Stand your Ground Law is insane... it's just a point of view from someone outside, looking in.


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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20060253)

Bahahahahahahaha that is great...


But seriously everyone... no need to get bent out of shape over this.

Let me ask a question: Sure, everyone is allowed to own a gun, and sure, everyone here on GFY will use it to target practice or in self defence only. Everyone on GFY passes a background check, etc etc. Everyone is a law abiding citizen and you deserve to own a gun if you want one. CHECK.

So now then, why not pass a law, to keep guns out of the hands of criminals? Of crazy people? Why not make it illegal to carry a gun into a school? Or a bar? Do you not think that this is going too far?

arock10 04-23-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20060220)
Tanks, rockets, and nuclear weapons are not protected by the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment protects only arms which one may "keep" and "bear." "The term (p.13)'arms' as used by the drafters of the constitutions probably was intended to include those weapons used by settlers for both personal and military defense... The term 'arms' would not have included cannons nor other heavy ordnance not kept by militiamen or private citizens." State v. Kessler, 289 Or. 359, 368, 614 P.2d 94, 98 (1980).

They also just had fucking muskets back then with marauding British around and no standing army.... Second amendment is extremely archaic and needs to be updated.

EddyTheDog 04-23-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20060279)
But that also doesn't have much to do with **********'s biased troll threads such as these.

lol - That's true - I have had a few too many beers to carry on much longer anyway - I expect I stopped making sense about an hour ago...

Seth Manson 04-23-2014 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20060291)
Why am I stupid? Educate me. Why were guns and guys playing militia necessary that day?

Not my job to educate you. Anybody that understands WHY our 2nd Amendment exists has no problem understanding exactly how and why it applies to this situation.

And why should an American have to educate a Canadian? Dont you fuckers already know everything?

Mr Pheer 04-23-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 20060236)
Canadians is actually some cool muh fuckas, even in the summer time. When I was stationed in Fort Drum I use to go up to Kingston, Canada to fuck around with the clubs, ladies and what not on the weekends in July. I only went in July because it seemed like it was only 2 seasons up there, winter and july. I actually had a chance to meet the canadian military one day when I was lookin for a hotel to crash, he was the coolest dude you'd ever meet. Nigga aint want no problems, just cool as polar bear shit. He wasnt worried about american guns, he was just interested in puttin me on this little secret strip club joint, where the bitches let you touch all on and in them and let you fuck. Why can't the rest of yall niggas be like him?

When were you at Ft Drum?

I was there from Feb 91 - Aug 95

Penny24Seven 04-23-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff (Post 20060086)
the real killer is fast food and unhealthy diets and people eating like shit. Total deaths from diabetes, cancer, and heart disease are in the millions and most of this is due to unhealthy diets, processed foods and lack of exercise.

US deaths from guns 19,392. drop in the bucket and some of these people deserved to get shot.

We spend millions so people dont text and drive, but we could careless about what people eat and that is the real killer in the US.

A fucking Men. If it is lives you are trying to save guns or taking them away is not going to make a dent. Look at all the top ways people die and do something about that if you really care. Not only the top way they die but the money it cost because of all the smokers and super fat people.
Some kid shoots up a school and kills 20 and everyone freaks the fuck out but 1000 died today from something else and who gives a flying fuck because most were old or you didn't see just how bad it really was on TV after dieing for 5 years from cancer and the bi-weekly chemo treatments that make them so sick week after week that cost over a million dollars to extend the last few years of their life when they cannot really do much except watch tv anyway. ok i'm done bitching and I don't even own a gun

MrBottomTooth 04-23-2014 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 20060236)
Canadians is actually some cool muh fuckas, even in the summer time. When I was stationed in Fort Drum I use to go up to Kingston, Canada to fuck around with the clubs, ladies and what not on the weekends in July. I only went in July because it seemed like it was only 2 seasons up there, winter and july. I actually had a chance to meet the canadian military one day when I was lookin for a hotel to crash, he was the coolest dude you'd ever meet. Nigga aint want no problems, just cool as polar bear shit. He wasnt worried about american guns, he was just interested in puttin me on this little secret strip club joint, where the bitches let you touch all on and in them and let you fuck. Why can't the rest of yall niggas be like him?

There's only about 3 Canadians on this board that constantly complain about the US. Oddly enough most of them seem to live in quebec.

CyberHustler 04-23-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 20060326)
When were you at Ft Drum?

I was there from Feb 91 - Aug 95

April 03 - Aug 06

deltav 04-23-2014 03:53 PM

I don't really get bent out of shape about gun control either way, but one funny thing I've noticed...

When you start talking to real pro-gun folks about why their right to own assault rifles & whatnot is so important, 99% of the time it comes out that they have this juvenile fantasy of being the last bastion of Freedom & Liberty for this hazy future time when the big bad gubmint truly decides to take over. They really feel it's a plausible scenario that they and other gun owners will band together into like an effective resistance force to protect fellow citizens from the Feds or the US Army or the One World Government i.e. UN.

It's just a fairyland left over from playing cowboys & indians at age 8, what cracks me up is that these grown men take it dead serious and have no idea how childish they sound.

Mr Pheer 04-23-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 20060346)
April 03 - Aug 06

Were all the Watertown girls still 400+ pounds?

AaronM 04-23-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20060291)
...So now then, why not pass a law, to keep guns out of the hands of criminals? Of crazy people?

Is this a serious question? Do you honestly believe that those laws don't already exist?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20060291)
Why not make it illegal to carry a gun into a school? Or a bar? Do you not think that this is going too far?

In most places, it is illegal to carry a gun in schools. Colorado for instance, you're not allowed to do that there. Can't carry them in movie theaters either. Clearly passing such laws has helped eliminate shootings in CO schools and theaters....Right?


Mark, lets pretend for a moment that you attend a high school basketball game. At some point in the game, some dudes bust through the door and open fire. One of them approaches your area, grabs you or your wife/friend/kid, and sticks a gun to their head....

Would you rather:

1: Offer him a swig of your Molson Ice

2: Explain to him that you don't believe in guns

3: Throw your beer at him

4: Pull out your own gun and have a fighting chance to defend yourself and your loved ones?

CyberHustler 04-23-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 20060359)
Were all the Watertown girls still 400+ pounds?

Yep, we called them hoes water buffalos :1orglaugh

AaronM 04-23-2014 04:42 PM

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EddyTheDog 04-23-2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060380)
....

Would you rather:

1: Offer him a swig of your Molson Ice

2: Explain to him that you don't believe in guns

3: Throw your beer at him

4: Pull out your own gun and have a fighting chance to defend yourself and your loved ones?

I would prefer he didn't have a gun in the first place...

arock10 04-23-2014 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060380)
Is this a serious question? Do you honestly believe that those laws don't already exist?



In most places, it is illegal to carry a gun in schools. Colorado for instance, you're not allowed to do that there. Can't carry them in movie theaters either. Clearly passing such laws has helped eliminate shootings in CO schools and theaters....Right?


Mark, lets pretend for a moment that you attend a high school basketball game. At some point in the game, some dudes bust through the door and open fire. One of them approaches your area, grabs you or your wife/friend/kid, and sticks a gun to their head....

Would you rather:

1: Offer him a swig of your Molson Ice

2: Explain to him that you don't believe in guns

3: Throw your beer at him

4: Pull out your own gun and have a fighting chance to defend yourself and your loved ones?

5: live in fear that a bunch of people have concealed firearms around me

AaronM 04-23-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060395)
I would prefer he didn't have a gun in the first place...


LOL. Unicorns and rainbows.

L-Pink 04-23-2014 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060388)

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


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AaronM 04-23-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20060396)
5: live in fear that a bunch of people have concealed firearms around me


Yes, lets be afraid of all the sane people who have passed Federal background checks for the specific purpose of owning and legally carrying firearms. :thumbsup

EddyTheDog 04-23-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060402)
Yes, lets be afraid of all the sane people who have passed Federal background checks for the specific purpose of owning and legally carrying firearms. :thumbsup

You have a lot of faith in your Federal government agencies - I wouldn't bet my life on the wankers we have here in the UK...

Sly 04-23-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060388)

I can't find the meme generator, so?

Image 1:
Police Brutality
EZ to be tuff against those without guns!

Image 2:
Police Brutality
Oh. Fuck.

AaronM 04-23-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060408)
...I wouldn't bet my life on the wankers we have here in the UK...

I have more faith in myself than anybody else. That's exactly why I carry.


Thank you for proving my point. :winkwink:

Sly 04-23-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060408)
You have a lot of faith in your Federal government agencies - I wouldn't bet my life on the wankers we have here in the UK...

I don't, which is why we should be allowed guns. Something you might want to think about as you don't trust your government either! :winkwink:

BlackCrayon 04-23-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 20060161)
Yall Canadian niggas worry bout a lot of shit that dont concern yall. Dont yall niggas got hobbies and shit? Fuck wrong with yall?

the majority of guns that are used in crimes in canada are from..guess where?

and yeah, shitty eating kills way more people but that is more of a personal choice. i can't get killed by someone else's big mac. they're just killing themselves.

people driving is the real killers of other people more than anything else. no one wants to go out because of someone shitty driving or someone snapping and killing a bunch of innocent people.

EddyTheDog 04-23-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060414)
I have more faith in myself than anybody else. That's exactly why I carry.


Thank you for proving my point. :winkwink:

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20060416)
I don't, which is why we should be allowed guns. Something you might want to think about as you don't trust your government either! :winkwink:

It's interesting you seem to have made the same point - You are both scared of your government...

I don't fear my government - I don't agree with them on most policies, but I have never ever been scared of them.....

That's interesting...

AaronM 04-23-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20060417)
the majority of guns that are used in crimes in canada are from..guess where?


I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you're suggesting they are from the U.S. I won't argue that as I honestly don't know. However, if that is the case then it only goes to show that your own "gun control" laws don't seem to work well either.

Here's some fun reading for you Canadian folks:

http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/tenmyths.html

AaronM 04-23-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060419)
It's interesting you seem to have made the same point - You are both scared of your government...

I don't fear my government - I don't agree with them on most policies, but I have never ever been scared of them.....

That's interesting...


I never said that. Let's not be trying to put words into my mouth.

dyna mo 04-23-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20060417)
the majority of guns that are used in crimes in canada are from..guess where?

and yeah, shitty eating kills way more people but that is more of a personal choice. i can't get killed by someone else's big mac. they're just killing themselves.

people driving is the real killers of other people more than anything else. no one wants to go out because of someone shitty driving or someone snapping and killing a bunch of innocent people.

guns don't commit crimes, canadians do.

BlackCrayon 04-23-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20060422)
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that you're suggesting they are from the U.S. I won't argue that as I honestly don't know. However, if that is the case then it only goes to show that your own "gun control" laws don't seem to work well either.

Here's some fun reading for you Canadian folks:

http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/tenmyths.html

well since all illegal guns start out as legal guns at some point you could argue that the less legal guns, the less illegal guns there would be. this is what happens in canada. its so hard to get access to the crazy kind of semi auto guns that are readily available in the US so they get smuggled in and sold to criminals. if they were as hard to get in the US as they were here in canada, chances are there would be a lot less out there to be smuggled.

EddyTheDog 04-23-2014 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20060427)
guns don't commit crimes, canadians do.

lol - On that note I am going to bed - Sleep tight and don't let the men in black bite...

AaronM 04-23-2014 05:25 PM

BTW Eddy,

I'm not sure what or if they teach anything in UK history classes but over here the story is that, as our country was forming, our ancestors took up arms to protect themselves from YOUR Government.

One could argue that the British are responsible for the creation of our Second Amendment. You should not be expected to understand or agree with it. You're the enemy. :winkwink:

AaronM 04-23-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20060428)
well since all illegal guns start out as legal guns at some point you could argue that the less legal guns, the less illegal guns there would be. this is what happens in canada. its so hard to get access to the crazy kind of semi auto guns that are readily available in the US so they get smuggled in and sold to criminals. if they were as hard to get in the US as they were here in canada, chances are there would be a lot less out there to be smuggled.

While that is a good argument, it would not stop people from importing them from other places. Please review #3 in the link I previously posted.

baddog 04-23-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20060259)
I didn't say they had they better weed or beer than cali. I said they have good weed and beer. I've had both.

You missed the first question . . . what is their good beer? I am headed to Total Wine and might pick one up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20060294)
They also just had fucking muskets back then with marauding British around and no standing army.... Second amendment is extremely archaic and needs to be updated.

Oh, you think if they had AKs in 1776 there would be no 2nd Amendment?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060395)
I would prefer he didn't have a gun in the first place...

People in hell wish they could have ice water too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20060396)
5: live in fear that a bunch of people have concealed firearms around me

Are you actually afraid of that? To be honest, not once have a even given any thought to whether or not people around me are armed or not. I am not a pussy. :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20060419)
It's interesting you seem to have made the same point - You are both scared of your government...

You have had too many beers; that isn't what was said (or implied).

MrBottomTooth 04-23-2014 05:29 PM

Ya they make getting handguns and other restricted guns in Canada such a horrible process that almost no one bothers to go through the hassle. If I were to go through the process of acquiring a handgun I still wouldn't be able to legally fire it on my own farm land....I have to go to a gun club. Oddly enough the criminals dont seem to have a problem using them outside of the gun club. Lol

CyberHustler 04-23-2014 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20060417)
the majority of guns that are used in crimes in canada are from..guess where?

Well criminals there gonna get them guns with or without mericas help, but the fucked up part is the law abiding citizens out there cant defend themselves from the criminals like niggas over here can :1orglaugh Yall need to get like us.


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