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  • transbetty
    Confirmed User
    • May 2013
    • 197

    #1

    Tracking affiliate signups - referrer tracking possible?

    Hello,

    I run a review site and I'd like to start tracking leads (referring source URLs) for signups.

    My idea is simple:
    1. my campaigns (links from other sites to my review site) will have unique URL - URL query parameter
    2. visitor visits my review site, the parameter is passed along (as POST parameter or via session)
    3. visitor visits any of paysites linked and additional parameter is passed. This is the question - is this possible and how?
    4. I check in NATS / CCBILL what sources converted best


    Is this supported in any form (session, URL variable, etc.) by NATS, CCBILL ?

    PS: I know I can define campaigns in NATS, but I want to integrate this somehow with Google Analitycs, using utm_campaign and some additional session handling on my side.

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  • transbetty
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    • May 2013
    • 197

    #2
    I think this post needs bump.

    Any NATS / CCBILL reps to step in?

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    • adultforum
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
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      • nm_
        Confirmed User
        • May 2011
        • 328

        #4
        This could be a really helpful thread, so bump ;]

        Not 100% sure how to integrate with analytics, but off the top of my head, maybe you could create a separate domain for tracking, and setup a php sesssion script that after clicking on one of your links, adds the original referrer to the session + id of the site.

        You could run this script on all of your sites, and if the session exists when a user clicks to another paysite, store that paysite's "ID" to the session too.

        So if you had three paysites:
        example1.com
        example2.com
        example3.com

        +

        trackingscript.com (you'd run the script from this domain on all paysites). I think this would let you maintain the session data across all domains, but I'm not the greatest developer so correct me if I'm wrong :P

        you could add this data to NATs dynamically by appending the session data to your nats links like so:

        nats.link.com/xjoaJWODJmncxncklaAWOPDJA/?autocamp=REFERRER_LINK&autotags=pid1,pid2,pid3


        Wish I could help implementing this with GA though

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        • EddyTheDog
          Just Doing My Own Thing
          • Jan 2011
          • 25433

          #5
          I have been think about this since you posted it the other day - It gave me a headache...

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          • transbetty
            Confirmed User
            • May 2013
            • 197

            #6
            nm_ : Interesting approach, but this would require creating tracking script and integration on all websites.

            I had something even simpler in mind. I don't know how you, but I often use Google UTM paramaters when linking a URL. This allows me to pinpoint not just URL, but even a link position within a page. Example

            Code:
            www.website.com/?utm_source=partner01&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=campaign01&utm_content=header
            This translated means:
            1. source was: parrner01
            2. type of medium: web
            3. name of campaign: campaign01
            4. place of link in page: header


            Of course this can be time demanding, because you have to tag your inbound links, but the amount and quality of report data beats the usual simple referral URL, which doesn't work properly always anyways (proxies, tor browser, etc).

            So my point is... at simplest level it can be done by CCBILL and NATS accepting 4 additional parameters and passing them along to their reports. I know you can create campaigns from NATS, but I think there should be also possibility to create this tracking from opposite "direction".

            I think it's 2014 and it's time to step up with the quality of reporting.

            What do you think?

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            • transbetty
              Confirmed User
              • May 2013
              • 197

              #7
              Any news on this type of tracking?


              I'm aware of NATS autocamp variable, but that's it.
              Not aware if CCBILL supports this now.

              Not speaking of accepting the Google Analytics utm_ parameters.

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              • Barry-xlovecam
                It's 42
                • Jun 2010
                • 18083

                #8
                Yes,
                "you may add tracking information in the parameter trac="
                to your affiliate referral (''webmaster sign-up'') code at XloveCash.com
                Code:
                &trac=$a,$b,$c,$d
                but I would keep the real values brief then just spilt them on the /,/ like a csv format
                What you add will be reported to your stats with us.
                G-A integration is not possible from domains that you do not control.

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                • transbetty
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2013
                  • 197

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                  Yes,
                  "you may add tracking information in the parameter trac="
                  to your affiliate referral (''webmaster sign-up'') code at XloveCash.com
                  Code:
                  &trac=$a,$b,$c,$d
                  but I would keep the real values brief then just spilt them on the /,/ like a csv format
                  What you add will be reported to your stats with us.
                  G-A integration is not possible from domains that you do not control.

                  1. I was looking for NATS / CCBILL solution. My guess you use something else system
                  2. I'm not looking for a GA "integration". Merely having the _utm variables processed and shown in the reports. It not an integration. It's just a variable I would pass and looking at conversion reports I would know which source contributed most.

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                  • johnny_d
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 827

                    #10
                    You cant track sign ups on paysites with Google Analytics. You need to be able to add your Google Analytics code to these sites, in order to do something like this. You cant add GA code there, you cant do that, at least not with the GA.

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                    • transbetty
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2013
                      • 197

                      #11
                      People you don't read what I'm writing ? I KNOW how GA works, worked for a big company in ecommerce dept.

                      I'm passing variables out from my site with the affilliate links, don't want to include any JS or anything.

                      It's the third time I'm explaining it. Is it so confusing.... ?

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                      • Barry-xlovecam
                        It's 42
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 18083

                        #12
                        We just started using NATS
                        Affiliate Campaigns - Tmmwiki
                        RTFM

                        Maybe someone from toomuchmedia could assist you better

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                        • transbetty
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2013
                          • 197

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                          We just started using NATS
                          Affiliate Campaigns - Tmmwiki
                          RTFM

                          Maybe someone from toomuchmedia could assist you better
                          Before you start RTFM people, you should probably read the post. Again I know about the autocamp variable.

                          Anyway, I'm already writing a small PHP script that will make GA umt_ paramaters work with NATS. Provided autocamp is enabled.

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                          • Barry-xlovecam
                            It's 42
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 18083

                            #14
                            If it isn't enabled in our install let me know ...

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                            • transbetty
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2013
                              • 197

                              #15
                              So here is the Gist code https://gist.github.com/transbetty/e23f4277c48416173f6c
                              I'm not a developer, so it's not objects, but I think it will do.

                              Basically what it does it gets the Google Analytics utm_source and utm_campaign and writes it to cookie. You need to add getTrackSource(); to links pointing to your
                              affiliate.

                              Before using ask your program if they have "autocamp" enabled. No reason adding this if they don't.

                              And how to benefit from this?
                              • you can attribute a signup to a campaign initiated outside your site
                              • you can create some reports that relate Google Analytics data and NATS
                              • this comes especially handy if you run multiple sites and send visitors to-and-fro


                              What's next
                              • creating a PHP class, but sorry objects are not my thing. Any takers?
                              • A really wonderful feature would be adding a special hash from your site tracking system (if you use any). This will allow you to identify visitor behavior on your site and have that info in NATS. Personally I think this would be a tremendously handy feature.

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                              • transbetty
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2013
                                • 197

                                #16
                                Ooops, a mistake in my code. Fixed: https://gist.github.com/transbetty/e23f4277c48416173f6c

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                                • transbetty
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2013
                                  • 197

                                  #17
                                  Yes another mistake / possible flaw.

                                  Please note: don't use sever-side page cache with above script - obviously it will cause the first page visit to generate some referral the code, unless you create an exception in your cache (little bit complicated). Use a JS/cookie solution instead: https://gist.github.com/transbetty/ffa7374d8f71667a1e44

                                  Simplified algo:

                                  is URL parameter present?
                                  - yes
                                  -- add params to all urls
                                  -- set cookie
                                  - no
                                  -- check cookie new
                                  -- check cookie old
                                  -- add params to all urls from
                                  --- new cookie
                                  --- old cookie, delete old cookie

                                  Sorry if I caused any issues. Learned it causes reporting issues only after deploying

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                                  • Matyko
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                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 8681

                                    #18
                                    Bump for this valuable thread!
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                                    • transbetty
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                                      • May 2013
                                      • 197

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Matyko
                                      Bump for this valuable thread!
                                      transbetty, you Rock!
                                      Thanks. Some GFY users post valuable info so I thought I will pay back for a change.

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                                      • CPA-Rush
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                                        • Mar 2012
                                        • 4927

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                        If it isn't enabled in our install let me know ...
                                        barry , do u know if its possible to track something as unique text inside the page displayed to specific users via GA tools?

                                        i have good idea how to setup goals-alerts but not sure what i can do to catch this minor events when occur.

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                                        • transbetty
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                                          • May 2013
                                          • 197

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                          barry , do u know if its possible to track something as unique text inside the page displayed to specific users via GA tools?

                                          i have good idea how to setup goals-alerts but not sure what i can do to catch this minor events when occur.
                                          I would look into the Google Tag Manager tags.

                                          Maybe you can auto-trigger a virtual click on page container and then use Click-Text variable from GTM

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                                          • CPA-Rush
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                                            • Mar 2012
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by transbetty
                                            I would look into the Google Tag Manager tags.

                                            Maybe you can auto-trigger a virtual click on page container and then use Click-Text variable from GTM
                                            first time to read about GTM , can i integrate it with GA ?

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                                            • czarina
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                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 10752

                                              #23
                                              How about using NATS?

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                                              • transbetty
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2013
                                                • 197

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                                first time to read about GTM , can i integrate it with GA ?
                                                Google Tag Manager is a "container" that can contain nearly anything. Html, JS, CSS, GA.... it triggeers on certain criterias and it can deliver data to GA.

                                                Originally posted by czarina
                                                How about using NATS?
                                                That was my intention, but I don't want to use 2 different codes (GA gtm + NATS autocamp). Above scripts use only GA, on your sites it converted to NATS autocamp on outgoing links.

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                                                • CPA-Rush
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                                                  • Mar 2012
                                                  • 4927

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by transbetty
                                                  Google Tag Manager is a "container" that can contain nearly anything. Html, JS, CSS, GA.... it triggeers on certain criterias and it can deliver data to GA.
                                                  ok thanks hun

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                                                  • elliso
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                                                    • Dec 2011
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