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Raider Mort 03-07-2003 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by cluck
It's gone :feels-hot and I don't feel like paying $9.99 a month for a realplayer membership to view the archive.
Aww shit !! Another conspiracy by the man to keep everybody misinformed.

And to get them for $9.99. :(

wonton 03-07-2003 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by Raider Mort


Aww shit !! Another conspiracy by the man to keep everybody misinformed.

And to get them for $9.99. :(

A couple of others posted in this thread that they saw the episode live. So it exists. It ain't no conspiracy.

But yes, you're gonna have to fork over $9.99 to get an archived copy.

DavePlays 03-07-2003 03:56 PM

Well Hell....

It's 5:45pm here -

and I have gone all day without reading anything really stupid or someone's wacko conspiracy theories.

Oh Well.......

Another angle on what is getting to be the very old U.S. and Bush bashing, lies, bullshit and insane crap like this.

Get a hobby - go ride a bike - go bowling - ANYTHING but spreading this kind of nonsense around.

Besides - if the fucking joke was true - it would be a far more stable world than it is now. :1orglaugh

DavePlays 03-07-2003 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by JeremySF



THE WEST SUPPORTED SADDAM AND IT WAS A MISTAKE!!

Yes, the U.S. supplied Iraq with weapons. It was a mistake. But, it was a case of who is a greater evil, Iraq or Iran? Since Iraq is secular and not tied up with the fanaticism that Iran is.

People seem to think the U.S. was the only one supporting Saddam. Hardly. England, France, Germany, most of Europe was supporting Iraq.

And the French and Germans supplied Iraq with more weapons than the U.S. Shit, the French sold them a nuclear reactor.

You have this one-sided view that only America is responsible for everything that's wrong. There's no culpability anywhere else. At least the U.S. and Britain have the spine to correct their mistakes while France and Germany (who supplied more shit to the Iraqis) stand on the sideline.



did you change sides ?

DavePlays 03-07-2003 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by wonton


To admit the dark and sinister truth.....



Ohhhhhh - "the dark and sinister truth" Ahhhhhhhh

Man... I think you believe way too much of what you read, see, and imagine.

the dark and sinister truth - That's just too fucking funny.....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

PornoDoggy 03-07-2003 04:03 PM

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a) The mainstream media IS largely a propaganda tool for the military-industrial complex
Do you realize that just reading that line set off an acid flashback and reminded me of the smell of teargas in the morning?

Great ceasar;s ghost - can't you kids even come up with orignal line for your war?

Yutes ...

wonton 03-07-2003 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by DavePlays
Well Hell....

It's 5:45pm here -

and I have gone all day without reading anything really stupid or someone's wacko conspiracy theories.

Oh Well.......

Another angle on what is getting to be the very old U.S. and Bush bashing, lies, bullshit and insane crap like this.

Get a hobby - go ride a bike - go bowling - ANYTHING but spreading this kind of nonsense around.

Besides - if the fucking joke was true - it would be a far more stable world than it is now. :1orglaugh


What are you referring to exactly?

Niteline ran the episode in question. You can buy a copy direct from ABCnews.com

The episode was broacast on 3/5/2003 and the title was:

"Is a war with Iraq part of a U.S. secret plan for global domination?"

Several other people in this very thread indicated that they watched the episode in question.

The conclusion that Koppel drew was that there was a plan of sorts but he did not come down either way definitively.

cluck 03-07-2003 04:39 PM

None of us can really know how much of the conspiracy theory is true. Here's a bit of fact though:

When the plan to get into the middle east was drawn up, a spot was left saying that the USA needed a "new Pearl Harbor" to get the support of the people. That Pearl Harbor was 9/11. Do I think the USA had planned 9/11? No, not at all. Were they happy it happened? Yes, I definetly think so. They finally had their excuse to go back into the middle east. The "axis of evil" was clearly outlined in the plan and so far they seem to be sticking to their agenda.

So are there reasons for war? Sure, but there always are to some degree. Don't believe them when they say that it's for your protection. I'm sure most people would agree that North Korea is more of an immediate threat, but they don't have as much to gain from going to war with them as they do from the middle east.

JeremySF 03-07-2003 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by DavePlays




did you change sides ?


huh? I've always supported the war with Iraq. What I don't tolerate are people who have bash people simply for having a different opinion. This is a free country and if somebody disagrees with our govt then it's their right.

I don't limit freedom of expression to only ideas I agree with. How fucking boring would it be if everyone agreed on everything. G-d bless our diversity of opinion. It's what makes America great.

Babaganoosh 03-07-2003 05:54 PM

http://www.wlu.ca/~wwwblack/Picture%...conspiracy.gif

gripcash 03-07-2003 06:49 PM

Article about a study regarding position on the war and knowledge about the facts of the war:

http://www.sklar.com/texts/gulf-war-media

Here's the main conclusion:
"...our study revealed a direct correlation between knowledge and opposition to the war. The more people know, in other words, the less likely they were to support the war policy. The argument we are making here is not based on politics, but on statistics. We are not saying that people against the war are right and those in favor of it are wrong, merely that since our study shows a clear relation between between knowledge and opinion..."

Raider Mort 03-07-2003 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by wonton


A couple of others posted in this thread that they saw the episode live. So it exists. It ain't no conspiracy.

But yes, you're gonna have to fork over $9.99 to get an archived copy.

I would rather fork over $2.99 to cum in your mom's eye.

:1orglaugh

theking 03-07-2003 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by gripcash
Article about a study regarding position on the war and knowledge about the facts of the war:

http://www.sklar.com/texts/gulf-war-media

Here's the main conclusion:
"...our study revealed a direct correlation between knowledge and opposition to the war. The more people know, in other words, the less likely they were to support the war policy. The argument we are making here is not based on politics, but on statistics. We are not saying that people against the war are right and those in favor of it are wrong, merely that since our study shows a clear relation between between knowledge and opinion..."

A totally biased, mis-informative article, with an agenda. Garbage.

JeremySF 03-10-2003 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by gripcash
Article about a study regarding position on the war and knowledge about the facts of the war:

http://www.sklar.com/texts/gulf-war-media

Here's the main conclusion:
"...our study revealed a direct correlation between knowledge and opposition to the war. The more people know, in other words, the less likely they were to support the war policy. The argument we are making here is not based on politics, but on statistics. We are not saying that people against the war are right and those in favor of it are wrong, merely that since our study shows a clear relation between between knowledge and opinion..."

I could prove to you that shit flies. You start with a thesis then find as much supporting documentation as you can find. This is done all the time. For every medical study that says A causes B, there's two that refute it.

The fact is the toughline policy against Iraq was crafted by neocon intellectuals who all went to Harvard and Yale. They're hardly uninformed. They've spent literally years studying this issue.

If you know about the neocons, they became a force during the Reagan administration. Many of them came from the far left (in fact socialist left), but eventually saw the light and became the most hardcore proponents of a strong, cohesive strategy to eradicate communism. Unlike their predecessors who failed at eradicating communism, with Reagan they were triumphant.

Likewise, they contend that militant islamo-fascism, particularly Wahabism, is more insidious than communism and must be dealt with accordingly. That's their agenda!

ADL Colin 03-11-2003 04:34 AM

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Originally posted by PornoDoggy


Do you realize that just reading that line set off an acid flashback and reminded me of the smell of teargas in the morning?

Great ceasar;s ghost - can't you kids even come up with orignal line for your war?

Yutes ...

Too funny. :thumbsup

ADL Colin 03-11-2003 04:36 AM

"Secret Plan for US domination"

You better watch out or we'll all be speaking English soon! Errrrr ....


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