WTF does the US Government have against cattle ranchers?

Fuck you, you think anyone that hates Obama is a racist

Bundy/Nugent 2016

I don't even know what it is he said except something like: Blacks were better off in slavery or something dumb like that.

I heard some audio today on the radio as I was driving...and in CONTEXT of that audio, he said that the way black people were being thrown in jail by the govt. that they were better off as slaves.

I don't think he was being "racist", I think he was trying to make a point. But of course everybody was just waiting for him to say ANYTHING and he was toast.

Did you hear the actual thing he said in context? And is that what he did say? That with black men being thrown in jail so much they were better off as slaves?
If so, then he has a point. The percentage of young black men being imprisoned is outrageous. And in prison...hell, they may as well be in slavery.

Seems like he read "Land of the free" and took it literally.

Wouldn't being in jail be better than having to work all day, get whipped, have your women raped, get hung in a tree? Slaves didn't have a choice, and I don't how you could try to validate this clown's point in any way at all.

He was talking like someone who has never been around a black person before. He sounded like what an old white fart living in the Nevada desert would sound like. An ignorant old bastard is probably a better label.

More of the proof of racism comes from how he thinks about the "non-existence" of the government. The roots of that line of thinking come from post civil war southerners who didn't want the feds interfering with their horrible treatment of blacks -- and it's a legacy concept that white supremacy groups stick with today. Ask any white supremacist if he recognizes the US government. His response will sound something like this Bundy idiot.

Is anyone interested in what he ACTUALLY said, in the version that was not edited to fit an agenda? Or do you all enjoy the propaganda that fits your world view?

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/uned...racist-remarks



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Maybe he doesn't spend anytime around a black person, maybe he has only things like this to look at.

Here is what he ACTUALLY said, without the editing to please the sheeple:

A new, unedited version of comments by Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy has emerged, and it sheds some light on the context of his remarks, universally condemned on Thursday as horrifically racist.

The 67-year-old Bundy, battling the U.S. government after federal agents stormed his ranch to confiscate his cattle in a dispute over grazing fees, said far more than what appeared in the New York Times and most other news accounts. While his grammar is pretty bad -- and his use of "negro" and "colored" considered politically incorrect (although they were both once preferred terms chosen by blacks) -- he actually was making a larger point, not simply deriding blacks.

In ahaYouTube video, he is filmed already in mid-sentence.ha

... and so what I've testified to you -- I was in the Watts riot, I seen the beginning fire and I seen that last fire. What I seen is civil disturbance. People are not happy, people are thinking they don't have their freedoms, they didn't have these things, and they didn't have them.

We've progressed quite a bit from that day until now, and we sure don't want to go back. We sure don't want the colored people to go back to that point. We sure don't want these Mexican people to go back to that point. And we can make a difference right now by taking care of some of these bureaucracies, and do it in a peaceful way.

Those comments appear to change the context of the next section, which was quoted in the New York Times. One clear point the rancher made: America has progressed since the 1965 race riots and "we sure don't want to go back."ha

Here are the heavily quoted comments from Bundy that followed the above section edited out by most news organizations.

Let me tell, talk to you about the Mexicans, and these are just things I know about the negroes. I want to tell you one more thing I know about the negro. When I go, went, go to Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, and I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids -- and there's always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

And because they were basically on government subsidy -- so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

You know they didn’t get more freedom, they got less freedom -- they got less family life, and their happiness -- you could see it in their faces -- they wasn't happy sitting on that concrete sidewalk. Down there they was probably growing their turnips -- so that’s all government, that’s not freedom.

But Bundy went on after saying that -- and again, his comments were edited out of most reports.

Now, let me talk about the Spanish people. You know, I understand that they come over here against our Constitution and cross our borders. But they’re here and they’re people -- and I’ve worked side by side a lot of them.

Don’t tell me they don’t work, and don’t tell me they don’t pay taxes. And don’t tell me they don’t have better family structures than most of us white people. When you see those Mexican families, they’re together, they picnic together, they’re spending their time together, and I’ll tell you in my way of thinking they’re awful nice people. And we need to have those people join us and be with us not, not come to our party.

So, Bundy thinks Hispanics are hard-working family people, and laments the current plight of American blacks under the federal welfare system while saying there has been much progress and that "we sure don't want to go back." As always, there's more to the story than what the New York Times says.

You're actually defending this?

100 she said he said distractions from the pertinent story.

Read whiskey rebellion. Have a great weekend.

I'm not defending anything. I'm saying that you should look at what this guy, (who is just a cattle rancher, not some practiced TV personality), actually said as a whole, in context. Not in some cleverly edited version designed to make the poor schmuck look as bad as they possibly could in order to serve some political agenda.



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But that's exactly what the Right's done, building him into some kind of hero - overlooking his contradictions and dishonesty and overall ignorance - in order "to serve some political agenda". Turnabout's fair play.

I could care less about this really, but it cracks me up to watch the politicians who were all about this dude now painfully try to distance themselves as the myth they built comes crashing down to reality. It's Joe the Plumber (or Sarah Palin even) all over again.

That's giving Bundy too much credit I think... from what it looks like to me, he's just a crazy, single person. Palin and Joe the Plumber are smarter than this guy I think, but like Palin & Joe, Bundy's cause has been built up to crazy heights thanks to Fox News.