WTF does the US Government have against cattle ranchers?

The president isn't a dictator. He doesn't run around making everyone jump or shoot them if they don't. BLM or the Forestry service or any other govt office act on laws. Those laws are written by congress and signed by the president and eventually enforced by what ever govt agency they were intended to be used by.

Obama doesn't say hey BLM.. go take this rancher's land because I want a new park named after me.. It doesn't work that way.

You want him to act and say stop.. Yet weren't you just complaining in another topic about how many executive actions Obama has done? Complaining when he does act on his own and then complaining when he doesn't is just silly. There is nothing he can ever do to satisfy you guys because no matter what he does or doesn't do it's always bad.

That's actually pretty funny.

How do you know that? Why are you so quick to categorize everyone...but so quick to get defensive over criticism of a politician?

I simply don't think the U.S. govt. should be doing this. And I don't think they should be killing people with drones worldwide. And I don't think they should have dropped the atomic bomb on two CITIES (not military targets, but men, women, and children).
And I don't think they should be spying on us. The list of shit they pull goes on and on.

Personally, I don't give a fuck who the President is.
If they are doing WRONG...then they are doing WRONG.

If you think it's all good because Pres. Obama is a Democrat, or because he is a black man...then that is your choice.
I don't give a fuck what he calls himself...Democrat or Republican. And I don't give a fuck if he's white, black,yellow, or green.
He came into office promising to fix shit. And instead...he's no different than Bush on these kinds of things.

It's all about greed and corruption from what I see. The little guy gets squished by the giant Federal bureaucracy.

And as I said earlier...Pres. Obama is either in CHARGE or he is not.
He could have stopped this before it got stupid.
But for some reason he did not.

And in my experience...when something doesn't make sense (like sending in a small army to go after a cattle rancher in the desert), then you need to FOLLOW THE MONEY. Because somewhere there is a hidden agenda and a lot of money at stake that we aren't being told about.

Pres. Obama IS the executive branch.

And having his BLM or any of the other agencies go after people is his job. It's not an "executive order" that circumvents congress.

And what I said VERY specifically is:
Either the Pres. is in charge or he is not.
If he was too busy at fundraisers and giving speeches at high schools to be "in the loop" for damn near anything and everything...then he is incompetent.

But even if that is so...all he had to do was turn on the television to see what was happening. And THEN he COULD have stopped it.

I do not believe for one second that he is incompetent or ignorant about the things that are going on.

The fact he did not so anything even after all hell broke loose says to me that the whole thing is a favor to Sen. Reid (of my state), who obviously has something planned for that desert land.
That is the way it appears to me.

But go ahead...keep defending a lifetime/career politician who wouldn't spit on you if you were on fire...UNLESS he had some way of making money on helping you. lol

Yeah, well I'm tired of the whole stupid conversation since 2008.

First he's born in Kenya, then the birth certificate is fake, then death panels, then fake Bin Laden kill, then then then....

Who believes anything the critics say anymore?

I think that stuff was fucking ridiculous too.

Yeah, things like if you like your insurance you can keep it

or that The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I, therefore, intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt.

Who believes anything the President says, LOL

We do all get that this our land as Americans and this guy was using it for free. Now they have a use for it and he is all bummed that his free use of our land is done.

He didn't want to pay the fees to let his cattle feed there. He owes over 300k and he doesn't recognized the us government. Now that s ok but some single mom getting 500 a month in food stamps is a free loader. Lol

You should consider the "loony" factor.
As in, having a flaw in the insurance plan is probably not as loony as fake Bin Laden kill.

The critics are loony toons.

No, some of the political activists who plant "conspiracy theories" about the President to rile up the crazies are the ones to blame for that shit. Not all critics of the Pres.

It's pure political garbage what they do.

In a way I think it empowered Pres. Obama when all that stupid shit happened.
I loved the way he played Hulk Hogan's theme music "I Am A Real American" and had his birth certificate on the big screen at the Press Dinner a few years ago and made fun of Donald Trump sitting in the audience.

Criticizing the Pres. for his actions and policies is what people should do if they disagree.
But the kind of dumb shit that Trump and others did was the equivalent of "jumping the shark" and made them all look "crazy".

Hell, leading up to the 2012 election I was listening to Donald Trump discuss what he would do as Pres. and I thought the guy had some good ideas and would be a strong leader.

But once he started up with that "birther" insanity?
That made him look like a total clown to me then.

this is nothing new.. it's been a on going court battle for 15+ years

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff

Well to start, Bundy is a criminal. He owes a Million dollars to the US Government and refuses to pay because he refuses to recognize the government.

Even worse, that asshole Sean Hanity at Fox News is stroking the flames. He's got all these redneck hillbillies out there just aching for a violent showdown.