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xNetworx 04-16-2014 03:26 PM

Faux is trolling pot heads. shocker.

Grapesoda 04-16-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20052535)

you don't have to suck on weed because weed sucks and BTW I know plenty of people that suck cock for weed ... that's all these models do.... fuck and suck for $, then sit in a weed coma until the next scene :2 cents:

CarlosTheGaucho 04-17-2014 04:20 AM

I believe weed is the only drug in the world that sure has absolutely no physical / psychical effects, including its total zero addiction rate, as just about anyone who smokes it all the time knows already.

I also don't think any drug in the world has so many well read advocates - it turns you into an advocate.

Grapesoda 04-17-2014 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 20053206)
I believe weed is the only drug in the world that sure has absolutely no physical / psychical effects, including its total zero addiction rate, as just about anyone who smokes it all the time knows already.

need holler bullshit here LOUD AND CLEAR.... you read what you wrote or are you to fucking high on weed....

'no physical / psychical effects' why do you smoke it then?

'zero addiction rate, as just about anyone who smokes it all the time knows already.'

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

seeandsee 04-17-2014 04:59 AM

don't pot and drive, take crak and fly

PR_Glen 04-17-2014 08:32 AM

if its not really a big deal why does the 420 crowd obsess about it so much? Nobody here thinks people belong locked up for 10-25 years for petty dealing charges but the 'war' that is on with this doesn't really exist like it used to.

I care very little about the subject but one thing i can say without a doubt is if smoking weed is even close to living your life to the fullest? Time to rethink your life..

dyna mo 04-17-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20053479)
if its not really a big deal why does the 420 crowd obsess about it so much? Nobody here thinks people belong locked up for 10-25 years for petty dealing charges but the 'war' that is on with this doesn't really exist like it used to.

I care very little about the subject but one thing i can say without a doubt is if smoking weed is even close to living your life to the fullest? Time to rethink your life..

who makes up the 420 crowd? Most pot smokers do so with little fan fare. the vocal 420 people are a subset of them. Id wager that the subset of pot smokers who obsess about it so much is rather small.

Someone told me years ago that I need to rethink my life due to my interest in porn. I've since made a living from it, living life as full as I can as a result of that, etc, et al.

TheSquealer 04-17-2014 08:46 AM

I don't think i've ever met a chronic smoker that wasn't dependent.

Actually, its very difficult to treat weed addiction precisely because it can be so easily rationalized to be "no big deal".. .even when people can't stop smoking no matter what.

Grapesoda 04-17-2014 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20053492)
I don't think i've ever met a chronic smoker that wasn't dependent.

Actually, its very difficult to treat weed addiction precisely because it can be so easily rationalized to be "no big deal".. .even when people can't stop smoking no matter what.

the worst aspect of weed for sure...

dyna mo 04-17-2014 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20053492)
I don't think i've ever met a chronic smoker that wasn't dependent.

Actually, its very difficult to treat weed addiction precisely because it can be so easily rationalized to be "no big deal".. .even when people can't stop smoking no matter what.

But that's a component of any REAL case of addiction. I uppercased real because I think addiction is highly over-diagnosed.

anyhoo, getting an addict to realize he's addicted is the biggest part of treating an addict, addict of anything.

TheSquealer 04-17-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20053518)
But that's a component of any REAL case of addiction. I uppercased real because I think addiction is highly over-diagnosed.

anyhoo, getting an addict to realize he's addicted is the biggest part of treating an addict, addict of anything.

I was referring to those who seek out treatment because they know they have a problem and can't quit. People getting treatment for weed are notoriously difficult to help compared to any other addiction

paper_louis 04-17-2014 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20051279)
Fox News is also bad for your brain.

:2 cents::2 cents::winkwink:

dyna mo 04-17-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20053561)
I was referring to those who seek out treatment because they know they have a problem and can't quit. People getting treatment for weed are notoriously difficult to help compared to any other addiction

Do you have any support for this view because I don't believe this to be factual. HArder than knocking gambling? not a chance. Cocaine. no way. smoking? doubtful. Shopping, no.

arock10 04-17-2014 10:08 AM

At least it's not caffeine that shit will make you go nuts

Grapesoda 04-17-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20053603)
At least it's not caffeine that shit will make you go nuts

actually there are proven benefits for caffeine in moderation

Robbie 04-17-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20053573)
Do you have any support for this view because I don't believe this to be factual. HArder than knocking gambling? not a chance. Cocaine. no way. smoking? doubtful. Shopping, no.

REAL cocaine isn't that addictive. Matter of fact scientists only recently "decided" it was addictive. Up until then...they universally said it was not (wonder if the U.S. govt. pressure had anything to do with that).
I'm not talking about that mixture of chemicals called "crack cocaine". I'm talking about honest-to-goodness old school cocaine like the kind that people snorted all the way from ancient times to Benjamin Franklin to Mick Jagger. lol

Smoking (nicotine) seems to be one of the most addictive things I've EVER seen.

Unless you start counting things that normally aren't thought of: sugar, caffeine, and carbohydrates.
The sugar and carbs are hugely addictive and the sugar kills more people every year from related health problems than everything else combined.

BlackCrayon 04-17-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20053561)
I was referring to those who seek out treatment because they know they have a problem and can't quit. People getting treatment for weed are notoriously difficult to help compared to any other addiction

a number of addiction specialists don't take people who claim to be addicted to weed seriously. its a mental addiction and doesn't take anywhere near the toll that say crack or heroin does so its often viewed as 'not a big deal' and something someone should be able to quit easily on their own. thing is, if you're doing it every day its not easy and this could be said about almost anything from soda to television. if you are told one day to just not watch tv any more or to not drink a coke when you have been drinking a can of coke daily for 10 years, its not going to be 'easy'.

Robbie 04-17-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20053663)
a number of addiction specialists don't take people who claim to be addicted to weed seriously. its a mental addiction and doesn't take anywhere near the toll that say crack or heroin does so its often viewed as 'not a big deal' and something someone should be able to quit easily on their own. thing is, if you're doing it every day its not easy and this could be said about almost anything from soda to television. if you are told one day to just not watch tv any more or to not drink a coke when you have been drinking a can of coke daily for 10 years, its not going to be 'easy'.

Exactly. People who are "addicted" to weed, could just as easily say they are "addicted" to watching t.v. or eating candy or playing cards.
It's just something that they have grown accustomed to doing. A "habit" like biting your nails.

dyna mo 04-17-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20053648)
REAL cocaine isn't that addictive. Matter of fact scientists only recently "decided" it was addictive. Up until then...they universally said it was not (wonder if the U.S. govt. pressure had anything to do with that).
I'm not talking about that mixture of chemicals called "crack cocaine". I'm talking about honest-to-goodness old school cocaine like the kind that people snorted all the way from ancient times to Benjamin Franklin to Mick Jagger. lol

Smoking (nicotine) seems to be one of the most addictive things I've EVER seen.

Unless you start counting things that normally aren't thought of: sugar, caffeine, and carbohydrates.
The sugar and carbs are hugely addictive and the sugar kills more people every year from related health problems than everything else combined.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
you are completely and absolutely wrong. And you're trying to tell me cocaine addiction is political. I was born at night but not last night.

Try that line on some teenagers not adults in your age and experience group.

dyna mo 04-17-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20053648)
REAL cocaine isn't that addictive. Matter of fact scientists only recently "decided" it was addictive. Up until then...they universally said it was not (wonder if the U.S. govt. pressure had anything to do with that).

Mainstream media reported cocaine epidemics as early as 1894 in Dallas, Texas.
Reports of the cocaine epidemic would foreshadow a familiar theme in later so-called epidemics, namely that cocaine presented a social threat more dangerous than simple health effects and had insidious results when used by blacks and members of the lower class.

Similar anxiety-ridden reports appeared throughout cities in the South leading some to declare that ?the cocaine habit has assumed the proportions of an epidemic among the colored people.?

In 1900, state legislatures in Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee considered anti-cocaine bills for the first time.

Robbie 04-17-2014 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20053674)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
you are completely and absolutely wrong. And you're trying to tell me cocaine addiction is political. I was born at night but not last night.

Try that line on some teenagers not adults in your age and experience group.

You don't have a clue about what you are talking about.

I'm old enough to remember that up until the late 1980's doctors and scientists said that cocaine is only MENTALLY addictive (a habit).

They changed that a couple of decades ago. Don't be an asshole to me dynamo. I've been around the block a time or two.

Cocaine causes you to "jones" for it about 10 minutes after you finish snorting a line. You crave more.

But it's a very temporary thing. Anyone here who has ever enjoyed cocaine recreationally can tell you that.

After you stop "jonesing" (about 30 minutes until the craving stops) you're done.

No "withdrawal". No overriding NEED to find more.

NOTHING like heroin or nicotine or other actual physical addictive drugs.

Why don't you try getting out of the house a bit. And stop insulting me in these conversations. Why don't you try shutting your mouth and listening for once. You might learn something.

Robbie 04-17-2014 11:02 AM

Here's some more for you dynamo since you are an "expert" on drugs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_dependence

Read that...cocaine is psychologically addictive. In other words...just like biting your nails. It's in your fucking head. There is NO physical addiction.

And here is an article about what I said earlier about a true killer that IS addictive:
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/02/2...aine/20837016/

But why don't you go ahead and insult me some more from behind your keyboard using your experiences in the big world?

dyna mo 04-17-2014 11:08 AM

where am I insulting you RObbie?

that said, I am about to, very much.

dyna mo 04-17-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20053696)
Here's some more for you dynamo since you are an "expert" on drugs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_dependence

Read that...cocaine is psychologically addictive. In other words...just like biting your nails. It's in your fucking head. There is NO physical addiction.

And here is an article about what I said earlier about a true killer that IS addictive:
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/02/2...aine/20837016/

But why don't you go ahead and insult me some more from behind your keyboard using your experiences in the big world?


This has absolutely nothign to do with you claiming coke isn't that addictive. The fact it doesn't have a physical component is irrelevant.

deltav 04-17-2014 11:12 AM

Umm... what on earth are you talking about?

I'm pretty far from anti-drug, but cocaine sure as hell is highly addictive. I guess the addiction could be twisted into the "mental" category in that it's "in your head" through the mechanism of substantial brain chemistry changes, but in truth those are physical changes as it's both a mental and physical addiction. To argue otherwise and then claim to be the ultimate voice of experience is... just... I dunno...

Some of the bloviating shit that gets tossed around here, it's ridiculous.

SuckOnThis 04-17-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20053561)
I was referring to those who seek out treatment because they know they have a problem and can't quit. People getting treatment for weed are notoriously difficult to help compared to any other addiction

Nobody seeks out treatment for marijuana, anyone in treatment is court ordered because they got caught with it and they know the treatment programs are bullshit, because marijuana is not addictive.

Vendzilla 04-17-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20051406)
Mark just laid it all out.

What's that old saying?
All men must die, but few get to really live.

People asked me why I went to China. I really don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to go?

You get one life, live it!

deltav 04-17-2014 11:15 AM

As an experiment, why don't ya smoke weed every day for a year, come off it and report your withdrawal experience.

Then do some blow every day for a year, come off, report your experience.

I think you will find a substantial difference.

TheSquealer 04-17-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20053717)
This has absolutely nothign to do with you claiming coke isn't that addictive. The fact it doesn't have a physical component is irrelevant.

Not sure why he claims its not addictive and then cites sources clearly explaining the addictive properties, the neurological pathways by which it works, how addiction then occurs and details withdrawal symptoms as well as addiction treatment.

deltav 04-17-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20053731)
Not sure why he claims its not addictive and then cites sources clearly explaining the addictive properties, the neurological pathways by which it works, how addiction then occurs and details withdrawal symptoms as well as addiction treatment.

Yes, odd that he'd use that link to back up his point, when it actually refutes said point in detail.

Robbie 04-17-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20053718)
Umm... what on earth are you talking about?

I'm pretty far from anti-drug, but cocaine sure as hell is highly addictive. I guess the addiction could be twisted into the "mental" category in that it's "in your head" through the mechanism of substantial brain chemistry changes, but in truth those are physical changes as it's both a mental and physical addiction. To argue otherwise and then claim to be the ultimate voice of experience is... just... I dunno...

Some of the bloviating shit that gets tossed around here, it's ridiculous.

Pure cocaine is NOT physically addictive.
People changing the meaning of addiction doesn't make it so. It can become habit forming. But there is zero physical addiction and withdrawal.

You guys listen to too much "War On Drugs" govt. propaganda.

And yes, compared to people like you and dynamo...I am the voice of experience. You two should get out more often. lol


And I'm glad to see that you've become "addicted" to the word "bloviating"
I have to assume that since you've used it over and over...you MUST be "addicted".

It's shocking to me how and what people think these days.
Cocaine was not only legal...but it was used by lots of people (and still is) politicians, doctors, lawyers, etc. (you know the scourge of society). Hell, it was even the main ingredient in Coca Cola.

It gives you a burst of energy and a very light pleasant head buzz.

And just like caffeine...if you took an un-godly amount...you could speed your heart up too fast and have a heart attack.

99.9999999% of people don't do that. And never will.

Look, all I was saying is that cocaine is NOT physically addictive. It's in your HEAD (psychological) Just like biting your fingernails or any other habits you may have.

Robbie 04-17-2014 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20053736)
Yes, odd that he'd use that link to back up his point, when it actually refutes said point in detail.

No it's odd that you two would talk about things that you obviously don't know anything about.
Goodbye from this conversation.

Love your site and I've been an affiliate for a long time. But you are full of shit on this particular subject.

Later...I have to go shoot some porn. :)

dyna mo 04-17-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20053740)

And yes, compared to people like you and dynamo...I am the voice of experience. You two should get out more often. lol

That's 2x you've said that. give it a rest. Fact is, compared to anyone YOU think YOU are the voice of experience.

Robbie 04-17-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20053724)
As an experiment, why don't ya smoke weed every day for a year, come off it and report your withdrawal experience.

Then do some blow every day for a year, come off, report your experience.

I think you will find a substantial difference.

I've done blow every day for a year before. No big deal. And no, I wasn't doing MASSIVE quantities. A bump or two when I was out playing in my band 7 nights a week.
I also had drinks every night.

Didn't have ANY withdrawal symptoms from anything.

As I said, I've been around the block that you have apparently only viewed from behind the curtain hidden away in your home.

I really have to go now to go set up to shoot a scene. But when I saw this...I had to respond.

You guys are dorks. lol And Keith Richards will probably live to a much older age than both of you. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 04-17-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20053731)

Not sure why he claims its not addictive and then cites sources clearly explaining the addictive properties, the neurological pathways by which it works, how addiction then occurs and details withdrawal symptoms as well as addiction treatment.

Some people never let's facts get in the way of a good rant... :2 cents: :upsidedow

http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post...gh-388161.jpeg

From the National Institute of Health (so take it with a gram of whatever):

Quote:

Cocaine withdrawal often has no visible physical symptoms like the vomiting and shaking that accompanies the withdrawal from heroin or alcohol.

In the past, people underestimated how addictive cocaine can be. However, cocaine is addictive when addiction is defined as a desire for more of the drug, despite negative consequences.

The level of craving, irritability, delayed depression, and other symptoms produced by cocaine withdrawal rivals or exceeds that felt with other withdrawal syndromes.
:stoned

ADG

Vendzilla 04-17-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20053724)
As an experiment, why don't ya smoke weed every day for a year, come off it and report your withdrawal experience.

Then do some blow every day for a year, come off, report your experience.

I think you will find a substantial difference.

People do that all the time, it's called going to jail. LOL

But then again, I smoked cigarettes for 4 years while in the Navy, then just stopped the day I go out. No big deal.

Depends on the person and what they need it for. I smoke a little now and then to help me sleep. I have a card in California. Only need a hit of maybe 2 hits and I'm baked. I don't need it, but it helps to slow my mind down. I come up with some cool ideas when that happens.

dyna mo 04-17-2014 11:36 AM

fiction and fact from Robbie's almanac.

deltav 04-17-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20053740)
Pure cocaine is NOT physically addictive.
People changing the meaning of addiction doesn't make it so. It can become habit forming. But there is zero physical addiction and withdrawal.

You guys listen to too much "War On Drugs" govt. propaganda.

And yes, compared to people like you and dynamo...I am the voice of experience. You two should get out more often. lol

Huh. Where is this fantasy world where I don't have firsthand experience of this stuff? Sign me up, honestly, it probably would've made things less complicated at times. And to hear myself described as a War On Drugs propaganda guy - that just cracks me up, tho I guess how would you know any different...

dyna mo 04-17-2014 11:51 AM

I'm going to take Robbie's advices and get out of the house due to my view that cocaine is addictive so don't be surprised when I come back in a few hours and post that cocaine is not addictive.

TheSquealer 04-17-2014 12:04 PM

When I was 19/20 I did a lot of cocaine. I was commercial fishing and I kept getting checks for 50k or so with say 2 months off with nothing to do but to do what people that age do. I never got addicted or developed a serious problem but a lot of my friends definitely did.

Also it just occurred to me that many boats in Kodiak and Dutch harbor supplied coke and took it out of crew shares as an expense


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