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  • The Hun
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 1207

    #1

    the ideal tube...

    ... would take people's submissions only if those people have the rights to those movies as well
    ... doesn't use your content to sell penis enlargement pills or webcames
    ... uses your content ONLY to promote YOUR sites
    ... would have no archive to make sure people still have a reason to sign up
    ... doesn't get DMCA's 'cause they make sure all their content is legal
    ... doesn't keep your content available forever, but lets it expire instead

    now if only someone would build this...

    Oh, please check http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1135...ghlight=thehun, still looking for site owners with video content
  • Alex1776
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    • Sep 2013
    • 634

    #2
    Sounds ideal for content owners, not so ideal for surfers though

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    • Ruseful
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      • Apr 2014
      • 197

      #3
      Originally posted by The Hun
      ... would take people's submissions only if those people have the rights to those movies as well
      ... doesn't use your content to sell penis enlargement pills or webcames
      ... uses your content ONLY to promote YOUR sites
      ... would have no archive to make sure people still have a reason to sign up
      ... doesn't get DMCA's 'cause they make sure all their content is legal
      ... doesn't keep your content available forever, but lets it expire instead

      now if only someone would build this...
      cloud.xxx and tube.xxx is coming Patrick, does the above and so much more. Its a tube for the content owners in the industry, that will effectively be run by them. I will be reaching out to content companies soon to create an advisory board. I am excited, as are the major content companies I have already spoken too, and they are already on board.

      Changes are happening in the tube environment, companies are manoeuvring into positions and I can tell you that content owners will be seeing a nice power shift in their direction. Cloud.xxx and Tube.xxx will enforce this power.
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      • Klen
        • Aug 2006
        • 32235

        #4
        There is a plenty of tubes which do exact that.But they dont have much traffic.

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        • The Hun
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          • Jan 2001
          • 1207

          #5
          Originally posted by Ruseful
          cloud.xxx and tube.xxx is coming Patrick, does the above and so much more. Its a tube for the content owners in the industry, that will effectively be run by them. I will be reaching out to content companies soon to create an advisory board. I am excited, as are the major content companies I have already spoken too, and they are already on board.

          Changes are happening in the tube environment, companies are manoeuvring into positions and I can tell you that content owners will be seeing a nice power shift in their direction. Cloud.xxx and Tube.xxx will enforce this power.
          HEY... don't troll my post with your own tubes... it's already done and ready... traffic is coming in as we speak... it seems people didn't get my insinuation on why I was looking for video content owners :-)

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          • The Hun
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2001
            • 1207

            #6
            Originally posted by Alex1776
            Sounds ideal for content owners, not so ideal for surfers though
            If that means full clips, LEGALLY, it might be a different story

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            • Denny
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Feb 2005
              • 17393

              #7
              Originally posted by Alex1776
              Sounds ideal for content owners, not so ideal for surfers though
              Originally posted by KlenTelaris
              There is a plenty of tubes which do exact that.But they dont have much traffic.

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              • Blackie786
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                • Apr 2014
                • 28

                #8
                I mean...TUBES.....
                Well....fuck you, fuck you and......fuck you, too!

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                • Klen
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 32235

                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Hun
                  If that means full clips, LEGALLY, it might be a different story
                  Not really,as there is a lot of legal tubes with full clips,and while some of them indeed have good traffic(see porn.com for example),illegal tubes will be number one always as they can upload fresh content much much faster.

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                  • michel
                    TheHun's Yellow Pages!
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 3420

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                    Not really,as there is a lot of legal tubes with full clips,and while some of them indeed have good traffic(see porn.com for example),illegal tubes will be number one always as they can upload fresh content much much faster.
                    Ehm, fresh content? Adding another video that has been on about every other tube site for months/years is not the same as adding fresh content..

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                    • StinkyPink
                      It's all goooood.
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1591

                      #11


                      Sounds exciting!

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                      • sojproductions
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                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2160

                        #12
                        Basically the old MGP model with embedded players without all the ads, perfect!
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                        • sojproductions
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                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2160

                          #13
                          Originally posted by michel
                          Ehm, fresh content? Adding another video that has been on about every other tube site for months/years is not the same as adding fresh content..
                          How many vids are being produced each week compared with 5 years ago? anybodys guess but must be down considerably. So the same regurgitated videos are going to keep cycling round and round with the users of tubes inevitably complaining that their free porn is getting boring! One day they will learn!... or not
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                          • Spunky
                            I need a beer
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 133986

                            #14
                            It will never happen

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                            • Ruseful
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                              • Apr 2014
                              • 197

                              #15
                              Originally posted by The Hun
                              HEY... don't troll my post with your own tubes... it's already done and ready... traffic is coming in as we speak... it seems people didn't get my insinuation on why I was looking for video content owners :-)
                              ah sorry, I thought you were genuinely asking for someone to build a tube like you described. I will remove my post.

                              Cant edit or remove the post
                              Last edited by Ruseful; 04-15-2014, 07:40 AM. Reason: Needed to update
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                              • The Hun
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                                • Jan 2001
                                • 1207

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Ruseful
                                ah sorry, I thought you were genuinely asking for someone to build a tube like you described. I will remove my post.

                                Cant edit or remove the post
                                lol... no harm done man.

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                                • StinkyPink
                                  It's all goooood.
                                  • Aug 2009
                                  • 1591

                                  #17
                                  It feels so cozy in here.

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                                  • Ruseful
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2014
                                    • 197

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by The Hun
                                    lol... no harm done man.
                                    Sorry, but the good news is that once we are up and running with cloud, that we will be able to fill your tube full of 100% compliant material, straight from the content owners, by the content owners.
                                    http://www.ReallyUsefulCash.com

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                                    • Roald
                                      SecretFriends.com
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 27910

                                      #19
                                      Looking forward to working on both projects!!


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                                      • freecartoonporn
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                                        • Jan 2012
                                        • 7683

                                        #20
                                        wont work, thats there is illegal tube sites model.
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                                        • StinkyPink
                                          It's all goooood.
                                          • Aug 2009
                                          • 1591

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by The Hun
                                          Oh, please check http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1135...ghlight=thehun, still looking for site owners with video content
                                          Do you have a working model or is this still in the planning stage?

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                                          • Paul
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                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 2637

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by freecartoonporn
                                            wont work, thats there is illegal tube sites model.
                                            Oh it will work

                                            It all comes down to the user experience, if you can provide a better user experience to the surfers than the competition then you get the traffic.

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                                            • seeandsee
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                                              • Mar 2006
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                                              #23
                                              and illegal tube don't care to be ideal
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                                              • LeRoy
                                                Porn Pusher
                                                • Jul 2007
                                                • 13364

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Hun
                                                lol... no harm done man.
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                                                • The Hun
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                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 1207

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by StinkyPink
                                                  Do you have a working model or is this still in the planning stage?
                                                  It works... up and running. Geotargeting, geoblocking, only ONE clip up per site, no ads on the video page part from the revshare link to the producer of the video, video expires after a number of days to keep stuff exclusive. I don't want to go on the market with just another tube site. I want to try to get good quality videos, legally, and with all efforts into making the producer money. And since it's a revshare I hope I'll make them a lot of money

                                                  I don't think it's fair to use other people's hard work to sell penis enlargement pills... that's just not right. I though long and hard about this and this is what I came up with... It's a work in progress and I don't expect miracles right from the start, but with the right support from the industry and my own blood and tears I'm pretty sure I could pull this off!

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                                                  • The Hun
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 1207

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Paul
                                                    Oh it will work

                                                    It all comes down to the user experience, if you can provide a better user experience to the surfers than the competition then you get the traffic.
                                                    You're right. That's very important! That's why I don't want to go for short tube clips you see everywhere. I make sure only ONE video per site is available at any time. Show the surfer what's available, but don't saturate them with content.

                                                    It's like the old days where I was accused of giving away too much. I told people a bar analogy. I run a bar where I give away free beer. But the beer can be warm, or too cold, or stale, or too foamy, or no foamy enough... For some people that might be good enough never to go to another bar again, but eventually I will serve someone a beer that makes him realize he just had the best glass of beer he ever had. But I had just that one beer I then send him to the bar across the street where he can purchase as many of those beers as he wants. This principle has worked on thehun for years, and I'm sure it will now.

                                                    Don't trick people into paying for something, show them what they can get when they pay. And don't give away too much. Why would anybody buy milk if they can get the cow for free, right? And don't steal people's content to sell penis enlargement pills... just sayin'...

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                                                    • LeRoy
                                                      Porn Pusher
                                                      • Jul 2007
                                                      • 13364

                                                      #27
                                                      I like where this is going! I've always asked for more adspace when uploading our content. I dont like to see a content partner page with one or two links to our site and 6 other spots going to different sites.

                                                      You're on top of this one and doing something about it.
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                                                      • Klen
                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                        • 32235

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Hun
                                                        It works... up and running. Geotargeting, geoblocking, only ONE clip up per site, no ads on the video page part from the revshare link to the producer of the video, video expires after a number of days to keep stuff exclusive. I don't want to go on the market with just another tube site. I want to try to get good quality videos, legally, and with all efforts into making the producer money. And since it's a revshare I hope I'll make them a lot of money

                                                        I don't think it's fair to use other people's hard work to sell penis enlargement pills... that's just not right. I though long and hard about this and this is what I came up with... It's a work in progress and I don't expect miracles right from the start, but with the right support from the industry and my own blood and tears I'm pretty sure I could pull this off!
                                                        If you are really concerned by using sponsor content for promoting something else,then just for promoting misc stuff make/buy your own content,and problem solved.Beside in my experience putting an non-related ad while you can put related is waste of traffic.

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                                                        • Klen
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 32235

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by LeRoy
                                                          I like where this is going! I've always asked for more adspace when uploading our content. I dont like to see a content partner page with one or two links to our site and 6 other spots going to different sites.

                                                          You're on top of this one and doing something about it.
                                                          Some tubes dont even had link,they give only watermark.But yes i was thinking about this as well,i think it would be fair to give uploader atleast 2 ad spaces.

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                                                          • The Hun
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                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 1207

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                            Some tubes dont even had link,they give only watermark.But yes i was thinking about this as well,i think it would be fair to give uploader atleast 2 ad spaces.
                                                            I give them all... in a revshare... and text-only... I want to make it super-clean... Or should I say: I made it super clean

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                                                            • The Porn Nerd
                                                              Living The Dream
                                                              • Jun 2009
                                                              • 19787

                                                              #31
                                                              Patrick I contacted Parney about getting you videos. We literally have thousands of full-length clips from over 15 paysites. So I would love to be a part of this. Hopefully Parney told you about me. Haha!!

                                                              Good luck either way, it's very exciting this new project of yours!

                                                              Oh - and interesting how Ruseful is back after deleting his profile awhile back because he couldn't take the GFY heat. Just re-joined in April I see.....lol
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                                                              • bean-aid
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jun 2011
                                                                • 16493

                                                                #32
                                                                Well... interesting.

                                                                Change the concept to premium tube membership (all the expired vids available in members area)... then each surfer is a potential member eliminating the CTR (to partner site) and never have to worry about third party cookies. Split profits with program owners based on which video surfer signed up from. Take it a step further and premium member also gets full access to partner site.

                                                                But maybe the site have to look totally free... I don't think so because all major tubes now have premium memberships so surfers are accustomed to it.
                                                                Last edited by bean-aid; 04-15-2014, 12:34 PM.

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                                                                • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                  • 9559

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Very nice - would be very curious about the CTR to the sponsor's site since the best I was able to get with current content partner programs was somewhere close to 5 pct. whereas the norm was 1 - 3 pct.

                                                                  So you basically got as much as one click back for 100 impressions your video generates to all the ads around it (which are usually paid for as CPI) - you can do the math.

                                                                  Best of luck!
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                                                                  • mineistaken
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                                                                    • Apr 2007
                                                                    • 29656

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by The Hun
                                                                    only ONE clip up per site
                                                                    Would you have enough of clips/updates? People now are used to lots and lots of updates (thanks to mawin and other thieves that poured so many content everyday).

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                                                                    • SmutHammer
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                                                                      • Mar 2008
                                                                      • 4301

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                      Would you have enough of clips/updates? People now are used to lots and lots of updates (thanks to mawin and other thieves that poured so many content everyday).
                                                                      We need to change what people are used to getting and expect.

                                                                      I'm not fully on board with or against this concept. It is still a tube site using full length videos, But has my attention and is defiantly a step in the right direction.

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                                                                      • The Hun
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                        • 1207

                                                                        #36
                                                                        [QUOTE=CarlosTheGaucho;20051140]Very nice - would be very curious about the CTR to the sponsor's site since the best I was able to get with current content partner programs was somewhere close to 5 pct. whereas the norm was 1 - 3 pct.

                                                                        So you basically got as much as one click back for 100 impressions your video generates to all the ads around it (which are usually paid for as CPI) - you can do the math.

                                                                        Best of luck![/QUOTE

                                                                        First results: 1:36. There is a gay clip on there with half the views of the rest of the clips, but that's at 1:17.

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                                                                        • The Hun
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                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 1207

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by mineistaken
                                                                          Would you have enough of clips/updates? People now are used to lots and lots of updates (thanks to mawin and other thieves that poured so many content everyday).
                                                                          That's why we have to go for quality. Good clips, not trailers and such. We are filling the database now, there are some videos in there now I wasn't aiming for, but I want to get this going. The quality will be improving once we're up and running completely. Also, this is new to everybody (including me), so we all need to be educated over time a bit

                                                                          The user will eventually always go for quality. Sure, there's the freeloader people that go nuts when it comes to downloading, but those people don't convert anyway. One clip per site at any time, enough to keep people interested and at the same time enough to keep then eager!

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                                                                          • StinkyPink
                                                                            It's all goooood.
                                                                            • Aug 2009
                                                                            • 1591

                                                                            #38
                                                                            The main thing that sucks about the partner tubes is the ads for everything except a tiny text link and a jpg banner wtf. That is why I think they are pointless. This idea intrigues me a bit.

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                                                                            • tony286
                                                                              lurker
                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 57021

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I paraphrase what the former owner of manwin said in an article. We have found under 5 min clips benefited the content producer,the surfer went to their site. Over 5 mins benefited us and the stickiness of the site.

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                                                                              • media
                                                                                Confirmed Moneymaker
                                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                                • 9853

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Good to hear from you today Patrick! Will get things rolling on our end to be able to work with ya on this project!
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                                                                                • bean-aid
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Jun 2011
                                                                                  • 16493

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by The Hun
                                                                                  Also, this is new to everybody (including me), so we all need to be educated over time a bit

                                                                                  The user will eventually always go for quality. Sure, there's the freeloader people that go nuts when it comes to downloading, but those people don't convert anyway. One clip per site at any time, enough to keep people interested and at the same time enough to keep then eager!
                                                                                  It's actually not new... it has been tested by myself and 1000's others. The click through rate will be *maybe* 3% average after all is said and done.

                                                                                  You will be missing 85% of the money because of no ads.

                                                                                  Make it a global adult site... variations from the masses, and it will work.

                                                                                  I spent over a year on this concept and emailed you a few times for input, advice, partnership... etc.

                                                                                  It will not work as a clean tube at this time in point... if you make it look like a *cloud*, where you have the best membership site in the world... it may work.

                                                                                  I have sent you an email with my thoughts.

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                                                                                  • Nicky
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 30071

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I'll be in contact soon

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                                                                                    • mamaliga
                                                                                      la gente está muy loca
                                                                                      • Mar 2011
                                                                                      • 1323

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      dream on baby

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                                                                                      • ITraffic
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                                                                                        • Jul 2013
                                                                                        • 2725

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        why would a surfer choose you site filled with promotional videos rather than one filled with full scenes?

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                                                                                        • The Hun
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                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 1207

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by ITraffic
                                                                                          why would a surfer choose you site filled with promotional videos rather than one filled with full scenes?

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                                                                                          • Romainz
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                                                                                            • Jun 2010
                                                                                            • 87

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Anything could work as long the traffic is there and we all know u got a good stream of it. Im on the same boat feel wrong having all those penis enlargement ads and other stuff around a video you gain from someone who spent times and money for it. Love my ratio without those ads anyways. Good Luck with ur project and if you could send me a email to where we can send legal videos trailers to you would be awesome Pce.
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                                                                                            • PR_Glen
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                                                                                              • Oct 2006
                                                                                              • 9058

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              industry cannibalism at it's finest. congrats
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                                                                                              • bean-aid
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Jun 2011
                                                                                                • 16493

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                                                industry cannibalism at it's finest. congrats
                                                                                                Not sure if serious. Or.....

                                                                                                Sent email mang.... would love a channel up there on hun tube.

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                                                                                                • Chris
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 27880

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  but we would but stuck asking again how does the hun make money doing this
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                                                                                                  • k0nr4d
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                                                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                                                    • 9231

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by The Hun
                                                                                                    ... would take people's submissions only if those people have the rights to those movies as well
                                                                                                    ... doesn't use your content to sell penis enlargement pills or webcames
                                                                                                    ... uses your content ONLY to promote YOUR sites
                                                                                                    ... would have no archive to make sure people still have a reason to sign up
                                                                                                    ... doesn't get DMCA's 'cause they make sure all their content is legal
                                                                                                    ... doesn't keep your content available forever, but lets it expire instead

                                                                                                    now if only someone would build this...

                                                                                                    Oh, please check http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1135...ghlight=thehun, still looking for site owners with video content
                                                                                                    You also need "... streams your content with rtmpe making it a pain in the ass albiet not impossible for other tubes to scrape", otherwise all that legal content is gonna be on other tubes pushing penis pills and webcams anyways.
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