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Halal slaughterhouses

04-12-2014, 02:50 PM

Won't post any pics related to the article i just read but this once again proves how ridiculous the way everything is done to suit idiotic religions is these days.

Killing an animal without prior stunning is illegal in Britain, but the law gives special exemption to Muslim and Jewish meat producers on the grounds of religion.

According to some Islamic scholars, stunning an animal before it is slaughtered for meat is not permitted. There are believed to be about 12 abattoirs dedicated to unstunned slaughterhouses in the UK, and hundreds of abattoirs that do stunned halal slaughter.

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04-12-2014, 03:26 PM

It's not ridiculous. Why does an animal need to be stunned prior to death?

Muslims prefer to slit the throat of the beast, some would say a more humane and religiously satisfying way.

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04-12-2014, 03:34 PM

can't find an article in english...

here in CZ one supermarket chain announced to offer halal meet and after a huge shitstorm removed it a short time after

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04-12-2014, 03:49 PM

Kosher and halal slaughters are the same except that for halal they thank god before killing the animal.

I'm not too familiar with the specifics of this, but I read once that jews believe it is the most humane method of killing the animal. I think at the regular processing plants they stun the animal, hang it from the ceiling by its hind legs and then slit the throat while it's still alive so that the heart pumps the blood out. I don't think Kosher and halal hang the animal up, but it's obviously feeling getting its throat slashed. I guess it comes down to just how stunned those animals are in the regular process if we want to determine which one is more humane.
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04-12-2014, 03:55 PM

Why is electrocuting the kill then smashing its skull more humane than just slitting the kill's neck and letting the animal bleed out?
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04-12-2014, 03:59 PM

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Its a real shame that the animal rights movement have turned out to be so very fucking PC, those guys are bat-shit crazy but it seems that even they are not crazy enough to oppose this barbaric slaughter as, it seems that being called a "racist", even if not true is the worst slur possible and the best way of stopping any opposition.
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04-12-2014, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by MaDalton

can't find an article in english...

here in CZ one supermarket chain announced to offer halal meet and after a huge shitstorm removed it a short time after

Muslim plague is spreading to CZ already? I mean at least to the extent where supermarket chain already introduces halal meat..
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04-12-2014, 09:54 PM

I've seen a few dozen sheep slaughters in North Africa. Most humane method I have seen, Muslim or Jewish, compared to the heinous methods going on in a normal slaughterhouse. never been to a slaughterhouse thank god. Just watched some docs.

My mother was an accountant for a waste disposal company back in the 70's. The one stop they dreaded to service was the slaughterhouse. Owner said he could not say what was worse, the smell or the sounds. Probably the smell.
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04-12-2014, 10:06 PM

Ask a right winger what should be done to a muslim terrorist whose hiding information...

Then ask him if it's humane the way they slaughter their animals for halal...

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04-12-2014, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

Why is electrocuting the kill then smashing its skull more humane than just slitting the kill's neck and letting the animal bleed out?

because you simply go unconcious. You feel nor realize anything. Even in an animal, we both experience stress. I mean why WOULD you bleed something alive?

you dont see the difference between being knocked out, and being bled out?
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04-12-2014, 10:13 PM

Anyone getting all uppity about this is either just looking for an excuse to talk shit about muslims and/or jews, or is in complete denial about the horrid cruel gruesome stuff that goes down in your "regular" factory slaughterhouses daily.

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04-13-2014, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by deltav

Anyone getting all uppity about this is either just looking for an excuse to talk shit about muslims

It's ILLEGAL.

How can something be illegal and not illegal at the same time ??

I think that's good enough reason to get "uppity" about it...

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04-13-2014, 01:25 AM

Here in Aus they use a bolt gun to the back of the skull. It is air powered and has a retractable "bolt" which shoots out a couple of inches and immediately pulls back again. The animal is dead instantly. Fastest and most humane way.

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04-13-2014, 03:51 AM

Some people simply decide to hate other people and since that makes them feel pathetic, they look for justification. Word!
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04-13-2014, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam

Why is electrocuting the kill then smashing its skull more humane than just slitting the kill's neck and letting the animal bleed out?

One is a lot quicker. Bleed out an animal sometime. Or just watch on youtube. You would want to have your head smashed in.
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04-13-2014, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by bl4h

because you simply go unconcious. You feel nor realize anything. Even in an animal, we both experience stress. I mean why WOULD you bleed something alive?

you dont see the difference between being knocked out, and being bled out?

Obviously, you have never seen an animal that twitched as it dies after being electrocuted and the has its skull smashed with a hammer ...

Cut an animal's carotid (jugular) arteries in its neck it will fall asleep into unconsciousness as it bleeds out.

Either way, a slaughter house is a nasty business -- how would you prefer to die?
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04-13-2014, 04:17 AM

Originally posted by Bourke

Here in Aus they use a bolt gun to the back of the skull. It is air powered and has a retractable "bolt" which shoots out a couple of inches and immediately pulls back again. The animal is dead instantly. Fastest and most humane way.

Actually, I think that might be common practice here now too.

Really, there is no ''humane'' way to kill ... It's all rationalized execution for gain -- we eat them.

Kosher and Halal slaughter methods are not any more inhumane than assembly line slaughter. Killing is killing -- there is no ''just war'' against food animals. We just kill them for our benefit.

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04-13-2014, 05:30 AM

The "Halal" slaugther methods here in Denmark today, consists of a certified muslim watching the regular slaughter-procedure.

It still pisses people of when they read "halal" food, but like in most cases, people dont know what the hell they are talking about - they just repeat the headlines they read in the papers/online.

At the same time they buy animal testet cosmetics, and Wear clothes made by child-slaves in africa.

It's required by law that the animal is unconscious when its slaughtered, and so is the halal slaughtered animals. SO in denmark, "Halal food" prodused here in the country are the same as regular food. The only difference is that the muslim was watching it being slaughtered.

If people want to fight about that, its because they WANT to fight, no matter whant
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04-13-2014, 05:52 AM

We went from hunting our own food to go to some market buy something already made for us and now we complain how it is done ? lol hell just go hunt your own food and and kill that animal your own way. Better yet you can always be a vegetarian

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04-13-2014, 06:12 AM

I think us westerns need to tolerate things more especially from other religions. Shocked?! It's called sarcasm.

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04-13-2014, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by Romainz

We went from hunting our own food to go to some market buy something already made for us and now we complain how it is done ? lol hell just go hunt your own food and and kill that animal your own way. Better yet you can always be a vegetarian

Vegetarians can still get pissed at how animals are treated/killed for food.

Just because they aren't eating it, doesn't mean they are not aware of what's happening.

Point of the thread however was, it's illegal. But yet again something illegal in our own country only applies to some and not all.

You can't have something illegal and not illegal at the same time...

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04-13-2014, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by MaDalton

can't find an article in english...

here in CZ one supermarket chain announced to offer halal meet and after a huge shitstorm removed it a short time after

there is halal butcher shop in videnska

anyway, does it matter how animal is killed? the poor bastard is dead on the end, chopped into pieces and cooked. electrocuted, gunned, knifed, hit with the baseball bat... it ends the same

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04-13-2014, 07:13 AM

Im not against killing animals for food but I do think modern meat processing is disgusting so either halal or not its just nasty. Enjoy ur poo burgers!

I know cs does.

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