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  • lucas131
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    • Aug 2004
    • 11475

    #1

    how porn memberships works nowadays ...

    imagine ... you go to buy a bread ... you buy a bread, but you are not fininished ... you have to explain to some stupid why the fuck you dont want to buy cheese, meal, potatoes and tomatoes ... this is how porn business works nowadays ... if you can make the buying of bread as much complicated so the buyer will buy something he dont want, you have won ... to all of you, to most of you, shame on you! ... not sure what i wrote, but shame on you ... :grrrrrr
  • The Porn Nerd
    Living The Dream
    • Jun 2009
    • 19787

    #2
    So....there's no money in porn (no bread)?
    Confused.
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    • SGS
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2002
      • 5176

      #3
      Adapt or eat?
      See sig...

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      • DamianJ
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2006
        • 15808

        #4
        It's how LIFE works nowadays.

        Buy a flight. Buy a domain. Buy a holiday. Buy ANYTHING and they try and upsell you.

        It's really not hard to untick a few boxes.

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        • wehateporn
          Promoting Debate on GFY
          • Apr 2007
          • 27176

          #5

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          • bigluv
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2008
            • 850

            #6
            Deep





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            • Major (Tom)
              So Fucking Banned
              • Nov 2003
              • 32492

              #7
              Originally posted by DamianJ
              It's how LIFE works nowadays.

              Buy a flight. Buy a domain. Buy a holiday. Buy ANYTHING and they try and upsell you.

              It's really not hard to untick a few boxes.
              Well said man.
              Duke

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              • fuzebox
                making it rain
                • Oct 2003
                • 22352

                #8
                Except affiliates like you still demand $40 PPS.

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                • SilentKnight
                  Megan Fox's fluffer
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 24818

                  #9
                  In my younger days I worked a few years at a lumber yard/hardware store.

                  The best salesman we had in the store was an old school dude in his early 60s - Earl. He worked in the paint/wallpaper section.

                  Watching Earl upsell a customer was like watching an artist - a real learning experience. Someone would come in for a simple gallon of paint. Earl's job was to make sure the guy walked out the door with brushes, rollers/refills, paint tray, edgers, a drop sheet and varsol.

                  Hell, sometimes I saw him sell a slotted screwdriver to open the paint lid.

                  He threw in a free paint stir stick.

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                  • VIXEN ESCORTS
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1103

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lucas131
                    imagine ... you go to buy a bread ... you buy a bread, but you are not fininished ... you have to explain to some stupid why the fuck you dont want to buy cheese, meal, potatoes and tomatoes ... this is how porn business works nowadays ... if you can make the buying of bread as much complicated so the buyer will buy something he dont want, you have won ... to all of you, to most of you, shame on you! ... not sure what i wrote, but shame on you ... :grrrrrr
                    Yes I see your pointings and wish someday when I buy bread I could say to fat girl in Sainsburys, please I only want pay half for bread, but I must be wary of becoming shop lifter like Adam Blake of Leeds aka DVTIMES

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                    • Cherry7
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 3564

                      #11
                      If I have a bad experience buying I don't go back.

                      If you treat your customers as you would like to be treated I believe they will repay with loyalty.

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                      • CurrentlySober
                        Too lazy to wipe my ass
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 38945

                        #12
                        i cant afford a loaf of bread... or a roll... or a slice... FML...


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                        • Manfap
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2626

                          #13
                          Do you want fries with that?

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                          • Roald
                            SecretFriends.com
                            • May 2001
                            • 27910

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Manfap
                            Do you want fries with that?
                            there you have it.


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                            • SmutHammer
                              Confirmed User
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4301

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cherry7
                              If I have a bad experience buying I don't go back.

                              If you treat your customers as you would like to be treated I believe they will repay with loyalty.

                              I agree, I never upsold my members/surfers anything. Only sold and offered what they were wanting in the first place.

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                              • Barefootsies
                                Choice is an Illusion
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635

                                #16
                                Originally posted by fuzebox
                                Except affiliates like you still demand $40 PPS.
                                Exactly right.

                                Affiliates want the big pay outs on a sign up, but seem to want to bitch about the how's and where that money comes from, much like pre-checked cross sales. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that a single $29.95 minus processing and other costs do not equate to $40.00 PPS. Especially when most of these pay sites can't retain a member more than a couple of months.

                                I have always found this entertaining or amusing when people act amazed there is some shady bullshit, upsells, cross sales, or alike going on behind the curtain. At no point did they break out a calculator or some fingers and toes.

                                Should You Email Your Members?

                                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                Enough Said.

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                                • Roald
                                  SecretFriends.com
                                  • May 2001
                                  • 27910

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                  Exactly right.

                                  Affiliates want the big pay outs on a sign up, but seem to want to bitch about the how's and where that money comes from, much like pre-checked cross sales. It's obvious to anyone with a brain that a single $29.95 minus processing and other costs do not equate to $40.00 PPS. Especially when most of these pay sites can't retain a member more than a couple of months.

                                  I have always found this entertaining or amusing when people act amazed there is some shady bullshit, upsells, cross sales, or alike going on behind the curtain. At no point did they break out a calculator or some fingers and toes.

                                  You don't have to do anything really shady imo. A "normal" cross sale is not shady, upselling is not shady. You can do it in many shady ways but if you agree on a lower income per member it's really possible to do so without going into the dark and raping your customers.


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                                  • Barefootsies
                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 42635

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Roald
                                    You don't have to do anything really shady imo. A "normal" cross sale is not shady, upselling is not shady. You can do it in many shady ways but if you agree on a lower income per member it's really possible to do so without going into the dark and raping your customers.
                                    My point was about simple arithmetic of how you get to a $40PPS. Not about those things being shady or not.

                                    Should You Email Your Members?

                                    Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                    Enough Said.

                                    "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                    • Roald
                                      SecretFriends.com
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 27910

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                      My point was about simple arithmetic of how you get to a $40PPS. Not about those things being shady or not.

                                      I know


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                                      • Cherry7
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2005
                                        • 3564

                                        #20
                                        I would like that printer for $100 I m in a bit of a hurry.

                                        Would you like some ink for that

                                        No I'm OK

                                        Would you like some paper

                                        No,NO I just want the printer...

                                        Extra 3 year guarantee ?


                                        Man walks out of shop.....
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                                        • CurrentlySober
                                          Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 38945

                                          #21
                                          Think about McDonalds... Not in a degrogaterive way, but just as fact...

                                          Go to the drive through - Make your order -

                                          1) Do want that as a meal deal Sir? No...

                                          2) Would you like to supersize it then? No...

                                          3) Any Drinks? No...

                                          Thanks sir, please drive thru...

                                          ITS NORMAL !


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                                          • Mickey_
                                            • Nov 2005
                                            • 4238

                                            #22
                                            Teencat, would you like some cheese with that whine?

                                            (see what I did there?)


                                            LifeSelector Affiliates - Make money today promoting the online porn of tomorrow.

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                                            • Barefootsies
                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 42635

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Cherry7
                                              I would like that printer for $100 I m in a bit of a hurry.

                                              Would you like some ink for that

                                              No I'm OK

                                              Would you like some paper

                                              No,NO I just want the printer...

                                              Extra 3 year guarantee ?


                                              Man walks out of shop.....
                                              ....and yet every major business in the U.S does this method. Car dealerships, AT&T, Best Buy, Qdoba, McDonalds, etc..

                                              I'm sure that pornographers are correct and major multi-million dollar corporations have got it wrong.

                                              /sarcasm
                                              Should You Email Your Members?

                                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                              Enough Said.

                                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                              • MPGdevil
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2005
                                                • 1210

                                                #24
                                                I don't promote sites with pre-checked cross sales. Simple as that.

                                                You also don't walk into a store picking up a basket and it is half full of groceries you have to remove if you don't want them.

                                                If the offer is really great, the customer will tick the box himself.

                                                Pre-checked stuff is just for those who hope for people missing the text and thereby abuse the situation.

                                                Then again I never went for PPS. If you have this little trust in the surfer likes what he buys and rebill, why the fuck do you support these shitty sites?
                                                Ah yes the quick money...

                                                Well I'm in it for the long run and always went for revenue and sites that cared about retaining their members.

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                                                • CaptainHowdy
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                  • 94733

                                                  #25
                                                  "Pan con pan, comida de tontos" = "Bread with bread, a fool's meal."

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                                                  • 30SalesPlus
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2006
                                                    • 212

                                                    #26
                                                    Its how porn memberships have always worked from my understanding, jsut like many other things as pointed out.

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                                                    • robwod
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                      • 2540

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by MPGdevil
                                                      I don't promote sites with pre-checked cross sales. Simple as that.

                                                      Then again I never went for PPS.
                                                      When performing an audit of one's revshare links, especially in recent years, there is a surprising number of revshare programs that include pre-checked cross sales during the checkout process these days.
                                                      NSFW

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                                                      • mineistaken
                                                        See signature :)
                                                        • Apr 2007
                                                        • 29656

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                        My point was about simple arithmetic of how you get to a $40PPS. Not about those things being shady or not.

                                                        No real affiliate wants 40PPS and no crosssales/upsells.. Ignorant newbs maybe, but they do not bring sales. Anybody who has half a brain understands that you can not get 40 pps without crosssales and upsells.

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                                                        • Colmike9
                                                          (>^_^)b
                                                          • Dec 2011
                                                          • 7230

                                                          #29
                                                          As an affiliate, I don't give a shit as long as I get full credit on the sale and the surfer complains to the site that he paid for and not to me..
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                                                          • nico-t
                                                            emperor of my world
                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                            • 29903

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                                                            Think about McDonalds... Not in a degrogaterive way, but just as fact...

                                                            Go to the drive through - Make your order -

                                                            1) Do want that as a meal deal Sir? No...

                                                            2) Would you like to supersize it then? No...

                                                            3) Any Drinks? No...

                                                            Thanks sir, please drive thru...

                                                            ITS NORMAL !
                                                            mickey deez never asks me for those things
                                                            then again i don't often eat shit so I am not often at mickey deez

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                                                            • Colmike9
                                                              (>^_^)b
                                                              • Dec 2011
                                                              • 7230

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by nico-t
                                                              mickey deez never asks me for those things
                                                              then again i don't often eat shit so I am not often at mickey deez
                                                              Just about every single job where something is being sold or a service is being offered, there will be an upsell somewhere. If not, that employee isn't doing what they're told..
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