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bean-aid · 04-14-2014, 08:07 PM

Shavers gonna shave and ain't a dick smack anyone gonna due about it... one fiddy!

Far-L · 04-15-2014, 01:42 AM

I want links to all the programs that credit joins without having to send sign ups. Can someone provide a list please?

pornmasta · 04-15-2014, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

I won't make less and less. I'll make more and more.
It's not a difficult concept.

I send traffic to the sites that actually pay the best for it.
If they stop paying the best, I send it to the site paying me better.
If no sponsors pay well, I either make my own sponsor site or stop promoting that niche.

The only exceptions are, I won't promote sites that treat my traffic badly and I factor in how hard it is to generate clicks each can convert.
Obviously I only promote legal sites and everything I say should be taken in that context.

All the rest are silly distractions.
Focus on who pays the best and how to get paid more
Why anyone pays less or pays more is only important if you plan to launch a competing site.

no, you won't and it is actually not what it happens.
Plz also see this concept:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel

Maraschino · 04-16-2014, 11:47 AM

Relentless, can you check your PMs please

PornDiscounts-V · 04-18-2014, 07:02 AM

Funny thread

TheSquealer · 04-18-2014, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

This is nothing new. They openly have talked about this since 2007-2008 at the conferences. Basically in a nutshell, many affiliate programs said they were constantly being held hostage by greedy affiliates always threatening to pull their traffic. Demanding $100 PPS, paid in advance on joins, and alike.

In short, many at that time made a commitment to move traffic in-house and away from some of this slavery where they were overly dependent on the affiliate traffic model. The tubes came along at the right time, and made that even easier centralizing traffic and simply making it a pay to play. Now an affiliate program was no longer held ransom and could afford to stay in business.

Before that, many were already experimenting with "invite only" just to avoid the 90% of affiliates that send 10% of the joins and somehow account for 99.5% of all support issues with all their self professed genius and know-how and their ceaseless idiotic demands for custom tools, promo content etc etc etc.... only to later accuse the program of ripping off affiliates or shaving because they felt they should have had 3 joins that month instead of 2 or because they felt they should be able to be as shady as they want with their methods and ignore the warnings and TOS.

This thread is literally a guide for "how to waste time and focus on nothing productive as a business person and make sure the return on your time is a minimal as you can make it by bitching about things you can't change, instead of just moving on as any intelligent person should"

Barefootsies · 04-18-2014, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

This thread is literally a guide for "how to waste time and focus on nothing productive as a business person and make sure the return on your time is a minimal as you can make it by bitching about things you can't change, instead of just moving on as any intelligent person should"

That seems to be the way of the adult forums now-a-days. A lot of whining about shit you can't control instead of working.

TheSquealer · 04-18-2014, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

That seems to be the way of the adult forums now-a-days. A lot of whining about shit you can't control instead of working.

It's sort of amusing. If these guys would invest as much time into working and changing their attitudes to "i'm going to start making some money and stop worry about that which i cannot change" vs. chanting day and night "i'm not making money, therefore,... shaving and tubes".... the horizon starts to suddenly open up, the ideas start flowing and the possibilities then seem limitless.

JSWENSON · 04-18-2014, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

You may want to rethink your POV.

Let's say you send 1 join a month at 29.99 revshare. You really think a program owner is going to invest ANY time dicking around with shaving your sale to earn $14.00? Now, let's say you send 200 sales a month, you really think a program owner is going to risk losing a whale by paying less $/click than another sponsor would pay for the same traffic on revshare? Seriously... think it through.

Not only will they take the time to do that it has been proven that many did exactly that over and over on this very board (and I don't read often).

The hilariously ironic part is a large number of them did exactly that through the CCBill system.

12clicks · 04-18-2014, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWENSON

Not only will they take the time to do that it has been proven that many did exactly that over and over on this very board (and I don't read often).

The hilariously ironic part is a large number of them did exactly that through the CCBill system.

Liar.......

Relentless · 04-18-2014, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Maraschino

Relentless, can you check your PMs please

I didn't get any PMs on here... not sure if they work. You can contact me via the info in my sig or through www.EngineFood.com

Relentless · 04-18-2014, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

I want links to all the programs that credit joins without having to send sign ups. Can someone provide a list please?

If you would like to push me 100 joins, I will gladly credit you with 101

Relentless · 04-18-2014, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta

no, you won't and it is actually not what it happens.
Plz also see this concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel

It is Ironic that you avatar is Mallick in a robber's mask. Did Mallick ever shave anyone? No. Yet he stole more money than all the shavers in the history of shaving have ever stolen combined. You are looking at the ass of the horse and saying it is the mouth of the horse. Turn the horse around and you will finally be correct.

$ / click makes shaving irrelevant. I don't care why they pay more per click or less per click, all that matters is how much per click they pay... and I always know that number independently of information they supply (other than the check they send me).

Relentless · 04-18-2014, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWENSON

Not only will they take the time to do that it has been proven that many did exactly that over and over on this very board (and I don't read often). The hilariously ironic part is a large number of them did exactly that through the CCBill system.

Let's say program A shaves and still pays you 10 cents per click
Let's say program B doesn't shave and sends you 6 cents per click

Did shaving change how much they sent you per click? Nope.
If they shaved and or didn't does it change where to send your traffic? Nope.

As an affiliate, I don't care if they shave or don't shave. I don't care if they are too lazy to update their tour or update it every 20 minutes. I don't care what their business model is UNLESS it negatively affects my bookmarkers, costs me more to send them clicks or directly impacts how much they are paying me per click.

It really is that simple.

bigluv · 04-18-2014, 01:10 PM

Does anyone else feel Relentless is Paul Markham's soul descendant?

Relentless · 04-18-2014, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bigluv

More nonsense

Bigluv,

You own what?

mopek1 · 04-18-2014, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Liar.......

Ever heard of Abby Winters ...

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