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  • Clay
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2001
    • 735

    #1

    I really really really really really really really want to know what my competitors sales are

    My competitor has been around since 2001 and just about everyone who likes the niche is on his site.
    Knowing how much money his site earned in 2014 would be a big help to me in knowing what my potential earnings could be or if I should give up and move to something else.
    Is there any trick of knowing what his site made? Like public records or something? He lives in Spain. Yes I'm serious, knowing how much it made would be life changing for me
  • seeandsee
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    • Mar 2006
    • 50945

    #2
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    • The Porn Nerd
      Living The Dream
      • Jun 2009
      • 19808

      #3
      I am sorry but there is simply no way to tell what a site earns by looking at public records or even Alexa rankings.

      You would need to know:

      Daily traffic
      Daily sales
      Conversion ratio
      Where the traffic is coming from (paid or organic)
      If paid traffic how much is he spending to get his sales?

      Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be. Competition is one thing but what I focus on is what can I do to make profits. At the end of the day I don't care what someone else is earning because I can't tell anyway. LOL

      Just assume he is making shit and you will kill it. If you are not happy with the money you are bringing in then that's the only real issue.

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      • Hentaikid
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2002
        • 1250

        #4
        If it's a spanish company you can try a service like Información de empresas | Informes de empresas | Datos de empresas y registros empresas - eInforma they give you reports on company info, dunno how accurate they are but they do mention financials

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        • MiamiBoyz
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          • Oct 2012
          • 6688

          #5
          Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

          If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.

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          • ShowMe69
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2005
            • 3147

            #6
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            • Clay
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2001
              • 735

              #7
              Originally posted by The Porn Nerd

              Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be. Competition is one thing but what I focus on is what can I do to make profits. At the end of the day I don't care what someone else is earning because I can't tell anyway. LOL
              Great advice thanks

              Originally posted by Hentaikid
              If it's a spanish company you can try a service like Información de empresas | Informes de empresas | Datos de empresas y registros empresas - eInforma they give you reports on company info, dunno how accurate they are but they do mention financials
              Awesome thanks! I checked and unfortunately he doesnt have a company name or anything, its kind of like TheHun, it looks more like a hobby website.

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              • The Porn Nerd
                Living The Dream
                • Jun 2009
                • 19808

                #8
                Originally posted by Clay
                ... its kind of like TheHun, it looks more like a hobby website.
                How does The Hun make money?

                (Sorry, couldn't resist. LOL)
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                • xXXtesy10
                  Fakecoin Investor
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 7127

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                  Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

                  If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.
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                  • Horatio Caine
                    full-time aspiring rapper
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 5746

                    #10
                    zero sales today

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                    • SmutHammer
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4301

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                      Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be.

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                      • Clay
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 735

                        #12
                        Originally posted by xXXtesy10
                        please do not encourage
                        I tried to find his address so I could go on google maps and see if he lived in a nice house or a shitty one

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                        • ITraffic
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 2725

                          #13
                          pretend to be an interested buyer and get all the financials.

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                          • makeabuck
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 629

                            #14
                            Why not just send an email to the owner? The worst they can do is tell you to go fuck yourself. And then who cares.

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                            • Clay
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 735

                              #15
                              Originally posted by makeabuck
                              Why not just send an email to the owner? The worst they can do is tell you to go fuck yourself. And then who cares.
                              the owner hates me because when I started my site I went on his site and wrote to some of his members to check out my site. since then if anyone mentions my site on his they get banned lol

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                              • AmeliaG
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 10680

                                #16
                                So would everyone.

                                If you already treated him badly, he isn't going to give you his financials and, if it is not a public company, they won't just be out there for you to see.
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                                • fappingJack
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Dec 2014
                                  • 2172

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                  I am sorry but there is simply no way to tell what a site earns by looking at public records or even Alexa rankings.

                                  You would need to know:

                                  Daily traffic
                                  Daily sales
                                  Conversion ratio
                                  Where the traffic is coming from (paid or organic)
                                  If paid traffic how much is he spending to get his sales?

                                  Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be. Competition is one thing but what I focus on is what can I do to make profits. At the end of the day I don't care what someone else is earning because I can't tell anyway. LOL

                                  Just assume he is making shit and you will kill it. If you are not happy with the money you are bringing in then that's the only real issue.

                                  Good luck man!
                                  I agree. There's NO WAY one will expose his earnings for public display. If you were in his shoes, will you do that? Of course NOT.

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                                  • iamBoogieman
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Dec 2014
                                    • 1329

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                                    Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

                                    If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.
                                    Best answer.

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                                    • Magnetron
                                      Lord High Groundhog
                                      • Jun 2013
                                      • 1841

                                      #19
                                      Consult a psychic.

                                      I have a brother-in-law who found out from a psychic the wife and I referred him to that he had a sister living in Florida.

                                      Turns out that his father stole him from his mother, sold him to another couple and ended up moving to the Chicago suburbs. He had blocked it all out with the exception of having strange dreams and a vague notion he used to have brother.

                                      No bullshit.
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                                      Approach the mirrored reflection saying his name three times : "Butcher .... Butcher .... Butcher ....."
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                                      you stood for
                                      ever before the window saying
                                      nothing

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                                      • Shap
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2001
                                        • 8313

                                        #20
                                        Tell me your competitor i may be able to give you an idea

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                                        • Manfap
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2013
                                          • 2626

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Clay
                                          Awesome thanks! I checked and unfortunately he doesnt have a company name or anything, its kind of like TheHun, it looks more like a hobby website.
                                          That's illegal in Spain. If the site makes any $ you have to have atleast your personal info (autonomous registration number) on the site.

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                                          • makeabuck
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2013
                                            • 629

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Clay
                                            the owner hates me because when I started my site I went on his site and wrote to some of his members to check out my site. since then if anyone mentions my site on his they get banned lol
                                            Well I hope you learned your lesson. Stealing customers is bad. Don't do that shit.

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                                            • Clay
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2001
                                              • 735

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Shap
                                              Tell me your competitor i may be able to give you an idea
                                              Can I write to you in private? Dont want to post it here

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                                              • Barry-xlovecam
                                                It's 42
                                                • Jun 2010
                                                • 18083

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                                                Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

                                                If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.
                                                HAHA! Best answer ....

                                                Said otherwise: Counting other peoples money is mental masturbation.

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                                                • Clay
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 735

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                  HAHA! Best answer ....

                                                  Said otherwise: Counting other peoples money is mental masturbation.
                                                  I want to know if he's making movie-money or life changing money

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                                                  • Barry-xlovecam
                                                    It's 42
                                                    • Jun 2010
                                                    • 18083

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Clay
                                                    I want to know if he's making movie-money or life changing money
                                                    Check out his servers and their data center -- if the website is not on dedicated servers he doesn't think it is worth a few hundred or more a month for IT. I would consider that if you need a starting point ...

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                                                    • Clay
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                      • 735

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                      Check out his servers and their data center -- if the website is not on dedicated servers he doesn't think it is worth a few hundred or more a month for IT. I would consider that if you need a starting point ...
                                                      What a great idea. I didnt even think of that. Knowing how many servers he runs gives me a better idea at how well he's doing. thanks

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                                                      • Paul
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                        • 2637

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ITraffic
                                                        pretend to be an interested buyer and get all the financials.
                                                        /Thread

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                                                        • amateurcanada
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 3766

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                          How does The Hun make money?

                                                          (Sorry, couldn't resist. LOL)
                                                          Lol too funny

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                                                          • kittykatt
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                                                            • Jun 2013
                                                            • 584

                                                            #30
                                                            I have a hunch that someone kind of wants to know something from this thread tittle
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